Could B3 Phenom be the rebirth of AMD....+1000MHZ OC done!

[KTE]

Case closed, these chips hate the cold. The colder they get, the more vcore they need to be stable. Just changing the heater setting for the vapo from 100% to 0% required an extra 2 voltage notches, so instead of 1.1825v it wanted 1.2125v to run at 2.7ghz because it got like 5C colder. I might have to build an intel system to justify not selling my vapo now...

Not sure I want to mention this but... AMD chips were actually designed and optimized for lower voltages at the mainstream frequencies [for such uarch/fabrication] right since the early beginning. Hence it won't be odd to find they love voltage only in a low range and do not scale past it unless process tweaked. As Execs at AMD have explained, critical path delays were increased for this but need decreasing for higher clocks.

Also, AMD now has the 2.5GHz Barcelona 2360 SE retailing at 105W TDP: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...l?redir=CPPR01

So they now [finally] have 1.7G, 1.8G, 1.9G, 2.0G, 2.1G, 2.2G, 2.3G, 2.4G and 2.5G retailing in that segment - all of which were set to release by December '07 had there not been this TLB bug and a reason why they lost much profit over increased costs.


Any details on nV 780a?

[Brother Esau]

I get 2800mhz @1.23vcore stably So I am happier then a Pig in

[Nedjo]

I get 2800mhz @1.23vcore stably So I am happier then a Pig in

I think is getting more and more obvious that B3 is really big progress compared to B2... just remember how painful was to bring up 9600BE past 2.5 with 1.4+V and look now... 2.8 is doable on default voltage!