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    ok.. !!

    I had typed 400 for FSB freq earlier, but ment to type 340...

    340 is what I was having problems booting with with my 400 strap.

    I just successfully booted with a 340 FSB for the first time, but had to move my CPU voltage to 1.68v!!

    That is rather high, don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    I just successfully booted with a 340 FSB for the first time, but had to move my CPU voltage to 1.68v!!

    That is rather high, don't you think?
    I don't know anything about that voltage, but I'm glad you're booting.

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    Ok

    My cpu is Q6600, memory is ocz ddr800 paltinum rev 2, the divider iis 1:1 so the memory are not the problem.

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    Well booting with my 340 FSB, Vista locked up on me, even at 1.68v in the CPU. Looks like to me the CPU voltage isn't the issue? I moved it back down to 1.6250v.

    I did try the 333 NB Strap, but it still would not boot if I set the FSB to 340.

    Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

    Under Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
    CPU Ratio Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 330
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
    PCI-E Frequency: 100
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-660MHz
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 18
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
    Write Recovery Time : Auto
    Read to Precharge Time : Auto

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
    Ai Clock Twister : Light
    Transaction Booster : Disabled
    Relax Level: 0

    CPU Voltage : 1.6250v (BIOS)
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
    DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS)
    South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
    North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

    NB LED Selection : NB Volt
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt
    CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
    Voltiminder LED : Enabled

    CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

    Under Advanced
    And CPU Configuration:
    CPU Ratio Setting : 9
    C1E Suppport : Disabled
    CPU TM Function : Enabled
    Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

    Under Advanced
    And USB Configuration :
    USB Functions: Enabled
    USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
    USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
    BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
    Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
    Legacy USB Support : Enabled

    If you see anything wrong, be sure to let me know!
    Last edited by Talonman; 04-14-2008 at 07:54 AM.
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    TRY this. I marked the changes in RED
    NOTE the 2 RAM options.

    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    Well booting with my 340 FSB, Vista locked up on me, even at 1.68v in the CPU. Looks like to me the CPU voltage isn't the issue? I moved it back down to 1.6250v.

    I did try the 333 NB Strap, but it still would not boot if I set the FSB to 340.

    Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

    Under Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
    CPU Ratio Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 400
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
    PCI-E Frequency: 100
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066MHz or DDR2-800
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 18
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
    Write Recovery Time : Auto
    Read to Precharge Time : Auto

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
    Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
    Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
    Ai Clock Twister : Strong
    Transaction Booster : Disabled
    Relax Level: 7

    CPU Voltage : 1.42v (BIOS)
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
    DRAM Voltage : 2.12v (BIOS) or 1.90v
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.48v (BIOS)
    South Bridge Voltage : AUTO (BIOS)
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
    North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63x
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

    NB LED Selection : NB Volt
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt
    CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
    Voltiminder LED : Enabled

    CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

    Under Advanced
    And CPU Configuration:
    CPU Ratio Setting : 9
    C1E Suppport : Disabled
    CPU TM Function : Disabled
    Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

    Under Advanced
    And USB Configuration :
    USB Functions: Enabled
    USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
    USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
    BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
    Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
    Legacy USB Support : Enabled

    If you see anything wrong, be sure to let me know!
    Last edited by Sources; 04-14-2008 at 10:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sources View Post
    TRY this. I marked the changes in RED
    NOTE the 2 RAM options.
    Thanks...

    I put in the 400 FSB
    Tried my memory in 1066 and 800 (went back to 800)
    Ai Clock twister was set back to strong.
    Transaction Booster is now dsabled, and relax level 7
    On CPU voltage, I had to select 1.4375v, 1.42v was not an option.
    Dram voltage I am holding off on as I am scared to hurt my 1.8v RAM, and I know how the Maximus can overvolt. (How high can I overvolt 1.8v ram, withought hurting it?)
    My SB is now on Auto
    Set the NB to X63
    Still have my DDR2 Controller REF Voltage on DDR@_REF
    Disabled CPU TM Function
    Disabled Execute Disable Bit

    System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

    Tried the FSB frequency at the dreaded 340.
    System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

    Put my FSB down to 330, and booted right up as normal...

    I do appreachiate the effort, and would love to get this figured out.
    Last edited by Talonman; 04-14-2008 at 01:07 PM.
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    Isn't that RAM supposed to be 1.9v stock ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    Thanks...

    I put in the 400 FSB
    Tried my memory in 1066 and 800 (went back to 800)
    Ai Clock twister was set back to strong.
    Transaction Booster is now dsabled, and relax level 7
    On CPU voltage, I had to select 1.4375v, 1.42v was not an option.
    Dram voltage I am holding off on as I am scared to hurt my 1.8v RAM, and I know how the Maximus can overvolt. (How high can I overvolt 1.8v ram, withought hurting it?)
    My SB is now on Auto
    Set the NB to X63
    Still have my DDR2 Controller REF Voltage on DDR@_REF
    Disabled CPU TM Function
    Disabled Execute Disable Bit

    System would not boot, or post.
    changed the NB back to 0.67X

    System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

    Tried the FSB frequency at the dreaded 340.
    System posted, but made a core dump and would not load Vista.

    Put my FSB down to 330, and booted right up as normal...

    I do appreachiate the effort, and would love to get this figured out.
    CPU Q6600 G0 @3.6 1.34v
    Ram 4x1024 Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 @5-5-5-15 1066mhz 2.12v
    Graphics EVGA GTX280 1GB @stock
    Displays 24" Westinghouse L2410NM| 19" Dell 1907FP
    Storage 4 x 500G WD5000AAKS RAID10
    Mobo
    Asus Maximus Formula X38 (Rampage Mod 0701)
    Case Kandalf VD4000 LCS black
    PS Ultra X2 750W
    OS Windows Vista x64 SP2
    Sound Supreme FXII 8.1 | Audio FX Pro 5.1 Headset
    Media Liteon DH20A3H External 20x DVD+/- DL
    Cooling Tt P500 pump | 3/8 green tube | Tt 350cc Res | Tt 360mm radiator w/ 3 120mm Tt silent fans | Swiftech MCW30 NB | Tt 208 copper CPU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    Speaking of wich, I do not see anything on the FTP site to indicate v1004 is a final. Yet, on Official Website Downloads, it is clearly listed as latest BETA release v1004.. I cannot log into the FTP .tw site since it appears to be passworded so I also cannot confirm it being listed as official final.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimsdale View Post
    TouGe,

    Q: Your sig says "CPU : QX 9650 @ 3.80GHz (9x400MHZ) 1.34V"
    9 x 400 = 3600. Are you at 3600 or 3800 on that CPU?

    A QX9650 @ 3.80GHz @ 1.34V would be impressive.
    I don't think I could even boot Vista at that voltage on my QX9650.
    In fact, it's taking me about 1.400 V CPU to get > 8 hours prime95 blend stable. (jwfitt on here is using 1.39xxx to get to 3.8, I believe)

    I found that at about 1.38xxx V CPU I would always get errors in prime95 blend mode after a hour or two. I had to go to 1.4000 to get rock solid stability.

    Anyway, if you get a chance, I'd love to see your main BIOS settings.

    What sort of stability testing have your done at 1.34V?
    Huh, I'll have to go back and change meh sig then. It should read 9.5x400MHz and the 1.34V is the reading I get from Everest while idle and @ load it reads 1.33V--using pencil mod. I think its set a notch under or above 1.375V in the BIOS. I can change this also if need be for clarification.

    As for stability testing I ran my FSB up to 400MHz w/ a multiplier of 7.5 and ran OCCT for 4 hours on the RAM test. Then I pushed the multi up to 9.5 and ran OCCT again for 4 hours using the mixed test. I then ran through World in Conflict and Call of Duty 4 for a few hours and encoded two movies, no BSOD's.

    I can post my settings in about 30 minutes or sometime tomorrow if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    ok.. !!

    I had typed 400 for FSB freq earlier, but ment to type 340...

    340 is what I was having problems booting with with my 400 strap.

    I just successfully booted with a 340 FSB for the first time, but had to move my CPU voltage to 1.68v!!

    That is rather high, don't you think?

    Yes, 1.68vcore is very high, especially for 340FSB. You have another issue than the CPU/FSB. I am running a Q6600 and I will flash to the 1004 bios this evening and I will post my settings after getting itup and running again. I am currently runnning mine at 3.8GHz (423FSB) with 1.43vcore. It is an L737B so it will run with lower vcore but you shouldn't need that much vcore to get to 340FSB.

    edit: I just looked over your settings and I would give your memory some more vdimm, like 2.0-2.1. Also change these:

    Ai Clock Twister : auto or disable
    Transaction Booster : auto

    disable everything under CPU config also

    you can also try pulling out one stick of memory
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    I antisapate your post!

    Thanks!
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    Talonman, there's hope m8! What batch of Q6600 do you have? I am able to do 440x9 stable on 400 strap. Will post settings tonight...
    CPU: Lapped L727A861 Q6600 3.61GHz (450x8) (1.275VID) @ 1.700V BIOS. WC w/Apogee GTX + Cu top + custom backing plate
    GPU: EVGA 8800GT. WC w/MCW60 + RAMsinks
    MB: ASUS Maximus Formula: Rampage Formula BIOS 0402. NB @1.61V BIOS. WC w/MCW30. FSBtV=1.38V BIOS. CPUPLLV=1.82V BIOS
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    Thanks ... I would love to get my speed back!!

    My Q6600 GO is L726B397.

    This is how it looked the first time I ever booted it with my Maximus, still at stock speed:
    She locked in at 1.224 Core Voltage. Is that good, bad, or average?
    Last edited by Talonman; 04-14-2008 at 08:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElEctric_EyE View Post
    Talonman, there's hope m8! What batch of Q6600 do you have? I am able to do 440x9 stable on 400 strap. Will post settings tonight...
    Here's some tests. 10min OCCT stable. It ain't much but it's good enough to play Fuel of War forever and video encode for more than 1/2hr at 26C ambient. I've got a problem when ambient goes above 28C. The temp difference directly affects core temps, where I approach the 80C danger zone. A chilled water system is in the back of my mind...
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    MB: ASUS Maximus Formula: Rampage Formula BIOS 0402. NB @1.61V BIOS. WC w/MCW30. FSBtV=1.38V BIOS. CPUPLLV=1.82V BIOS
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