**Official DFI LanParty UT X48-T2R(and LT) Discussion

[ACE76]

I'm having some weird issues with the latest BIOS and the 9650 CPU...my 8400 worked flawlessly at 4.2ghz but even at stock settings, my 9650 is having issues with this board...once, out of the blue, the temps shot up to 75c and the PC shut down to prevent damage...and now if I don't leave the CPU settings on AUTO, I can't boot into Windows...I suspected the CPU being defective, but when I put it into my DFI P35 UT board, it works great and overclocks to 4ghz, no problem.

I'm pissed now...hopefully this is some strange BIOS issue and gets resolved soon...I was planning on using this board with a phase set-up later on too.

[CoolZone]

Look here...

I was asking about the UT version

[Clunk]

Thanks everyone for all of the replies.

I've been able to deal with the code 88 hangs by a hard power down, plus or minus a CMOS clear.

I've tried three different brands of memory that are both memtest and orthos blend stable (even overclocked) in other mobos, so I think the RAM is good. I'm just trying to get PC8500 memory to run at or near stock 1066mhz with this mobo, and it is a real battle. I've tried a range of RAM voltages (I think all 3 brands state a recommended voltage of 2.1v, so I've tried 1.9 to 2.23 volts) and used relaxed timings and subtimings. I've never increased the CPU PLL volts. I've tried using both of the pairs of memory slots too.

I guess the thing that confuses me the most is that when I do through trial and error obtain bios settings that will post, pass memtest, and boot into windows, I will record them and save them to CMOS. If I come back later to use these same exact settings with the same memory sticks, there is a fair chance I will get a C1 error and the board won't even post. Similarly, there will be instances where I have to clear CMOS and power down three or four times before the same pair of memory sticks will even post at board default speeds (667 or 800mhz depending on the strap I'm using). It is this unpredictable behavior with the same given bios settings at stock or near stock memory speeds that makes me want to impugn the board.

I haven't tinkered too much with GTL REF settings, but I was under the impression that with a dual core at stock cpu and ram speeds, they should be ok on "disabled".

RMA time ?

I'm out of ideas then, sorry mate - everything you are experiencing points to bad RAM, but as you've memtested all the sticks, I dunno.

[Big Lar]

@ Beefy22, It is normal for the board to do that at a cold boot. I keep mine on a UPS, so with that, it isn't ever shut down, hence I do not get the double boot so to say.

Larry

[Psycho_eddie]

Hi m8 well at idle i get 24 NB and 30 ish on all cores but in prime after say an hour os so i seem to be about 55 on NB and all my cores. I think my NB is high because its 2nd on my loop after my cpu and as soon as i stop Prime it drops back to 24-30 almost straight away.

55C loaded what CPU speed/Voltage set for this temp?

Also ambient temps roughly?


With 25C ambient temps

Q6600 450x8 (3600) @ 1.425V i get 35C idle and 60C loaded prime 95 hours in

[wilson]

Thats with 400 x 9 with 1.4v 1.38 in bios and with a ambient of 28... Ive not done prime with my new settings as it seems ok so far.

[C-N]

Ladies & gents I have just edited post 648 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=648

I made a typo regarding the DIMM voltage measured with a DMM, I said I set 2.19v & my board made 2.1~2.2v it should have read 2.21~2.22v.

I'm surprised nobody spotted it!

CN

[adya]

drnick79-
a mate of mine had a really similiar problem with a different board. it seemed like it was his ram but it ended up being his cpu. he reckons it might be ur cpu as well.
is there a way to test it? guess u need a spare cpu ,but if u do i would try running it just to see.

[adya]

just a question, ive noticed alot of u have set ur "CPU VID Special Add" to different figures. i wasnt sure what it was so i left it on auto.
so even though its running stable, should i leave it on auto?and not worry about it , or should i change it to a certain figure?

[zanzabar]

vid special add, adds that % to the vcore so that u can get between settings

[axis]

just a question, ive noticed alot of u have set ur "CPU VID Special Add" to different figures. i wasnt sure what it was so i left it on auto.
so even though its running stable, should i leave it on auto?and not worry about it , or should i change it to a certain figure?

This board seems to overvolt the CPU at auto and I don't know how much. I think I read on Clunks site to set it so you KNOW what it's supposed to be. Even at that, my board overvolts the CPU.

[k0k0]

hi, i´m very interesting to buy this motherboard andI want to know if I can use the enzotech waterblock in this motherboard


and I have a E3110 and 8Gb DDR1000 OCZ and I want to do 500Mhz FSB, or do 4Ghz WC, is posible ??

the later questions is if I need cooling more the mosfets.


Thanks

[C-N]

The board over volts the CPU from what is set in BIOS by roughly .050v so if you want 1.475v set 1.425v

The other nice thing with the vid special add feature is if you leave the CPU vcore on auto & add any additional voltage you need using vid special add you can use C1E to throttle your CPU speed & voltage up & down when the PC is idling or gaming etc. This feature will allow your CPU to relax a bit when not being used & it will snap back to full power/speed when needed.

CN

[adya]

The board over volts the CPU from what is set in BIOS by roughly .050v so if you want 1.475v set 1.425v

The other nice thing with the vid special add feature is if you leave the CPU vcore on auto & add any additional voltage you need using vid special add you can use C1E to throttle your CPU speed & voltage up & down when the PC is idling or gaming etc. This feature will allow your CPU to relax a bit when not being used & it will snap back to full power/speed when needed.

CN

wow ok thats good to know. i have c1e dissabled becuase im scared it will lower my cpus output when i need it ie gaming etc.
but if i set my cpu priority to high, are u sure c1e will obey ? and run it at 3.8ghz? if so ill enable it again.
also the volt reading in bios at the bottom , is that the correct volt reading? is it safe to go by it?

[Big Lar]

hi, i´m very interesting to buy this motherboard andI want to know if I can use the enzotech waterblock in this motherboard


and I have a E3110 and 8Gb DDR1000 OCZ and I want to do 500Mhz FSB, or do 4Ghz WC, is posible ??

the later questions is if I need cooling more the mosfets.


Thanks

The Enzotech does fit it, tho it does not cover 100%.
Not sure about the ram, only running 4gb here, 500fsb is no problem here tho with 4gb's of ram,(2x2gb).

Larry

[C-N]

wow ok thats good to know. i have c1e dissabled becuase im scared it will lower my cpus output when i need it ie gaming etc.
but if i set my cpu priority to high, are u sure c1e will obey ? and run it at 3.8ghz? if so ill enable it again.
also the volt reading in bios at the bottom , is that the correct volt reading? is it safe to go by it?

I run my rigs 24/7 & have always used C1E where poss & found it to work very well/perfectly in-fact. Praz over on the DFI P35 thread brought this up recently & I haven't heard anyone thats used it say anything bad about it so I'm sure you'll be good to use it.

There are a couple of programs like Everest & task manager that can chart your CPU use/load so you could double check your CPU's load under gaming if you feel the need.

You shouldn't need to touch your CPU priority.

Its your choice to use C1E or not I just thought I'd mention it again as I find it works real well & don't mind saying so

The BIOS voltages are all pretty close but if in doubt get a DMM & measure them for yourself.

CN

[drnick79]

Adya and Clunk,

The thought of a bad CPU did cross my mind, and both of you mentioned scenarios of such resulting in similar difficulties to the ones I've described. I'm using a new retail version E8400 that I purchased just for this board, but anything is possible I suppose. I do have a conroe chip that i can pull from another board for testing- I will post my findings.

Thanks for the advice.

[adya]

I run my rigs 24/7 & have always used C1E where poss & found it to work very well/perfectly in-fact. Praz over on the DFI P35 thread brought this up recently & I haven't heard anyone thats used it say anything bad about it so I'm sure you'll be good to use it.

There are a couple of programs like Everest & task manager that can chart your CPU use/load so you could double check your CPU's load under gaming if you feel the need.

You shouldn't need to touch your CPU priority.

Its your choice to use C1E or not I just thought I'd mention it again as I find it works real well & don't mind saying so

The BIOS voltages are all pretty close but if in doubt get a DMM & measure them for yourself.

CN

thanks for the info, thats really good to know. i just turned it back on . i payed $1100 for this cpu so if it can rest when not needed its a good thing. i dont want it dying on me quite yet.

[k0k0]

can I use my 8800GTS in the second pci-e ?? or always use in the first pci-e

Although the NB waterblock don´t cover the 100% of the NB, the chipset has a good cooling ??

thanks

[axis]

can I use my 8800GTS in the second pci-e ?? or always use in the first pci-e

Although the NB waterblock don´t cover the 100% of the NB, the chipset has a good cooling ??

thanks

Yes and Yes. I have my G92 GTS in the second slot to improve airflow to the NB HS and True. Others here report nice temps using the EnzoTech block, even though it doesn't give 100% coverage.

Axis

[zsamz_]

c-n i actually found everest closer than bios readings

bios nb 1.6v actual 1.56v everest 1.55v
bios vdmm 2.3 actual 2.27 everest 2.27

[C-N]

c-n i actually found everest closer than bios readings

bios nb 1.6v actual 1.56v everest 1.55v
bios vdmm 2.3 actual 2.27 everest 2.27

Interesting, I take it thats on your 38 with the 48 BIOS?

I think it would be nice if there are any others out there that have run a DMM over there board could post there findings as we now have you & clunk saying they get a bit of voltage drop & me saying my board over volts everything.

CN

[zsamz_]

Interesting, I take it thats on your 38 with the 48 BIOS?

I think it would be nice if there are any others out there that have run a DMM over there board could post there findings as we now have you & clunk saying they get a bit of voltage drop & me saying my board over volts everything.

CN

mostly voltage drops some cases of cpu overvolting by 0.01v
i went back to x38 bios cause of everest
only thing i saw different with x48 bios was nb overvolting
when they come out with more bioses i'll test em all lol

[zsamz_]

i been playin with gtl settings for a few hours and for those with a few errors in memtest or c1 error
the right gtl setting can fix it
use clunk's charts

[hardtarget]

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Enabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Enabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Auto
- Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Enabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 3600
CPU Clock: 400
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/667
- Target DRAM Speed: 1000
PCIE Clock: 100MHz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: Auto (This reads 1.29V in CPU-Z under idle)
CPU VID Special Add: 107.79% (This reads 1.42V in CPU-Z under load)
DRAM Voltage Control: 1.956V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.510V
NB Core Voltage: 1.330v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.227v
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Enable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 100
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 85

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Curren
- DIMM 1 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 13
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): Auto

Read delay phase adjust: Enter

Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0): 6-6-6-5
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enable
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO

Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0): 6-6-6-5
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enable
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

MCH ODT Latency: 1
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4

Sorry for asking a silly question, but how do you get these reading to post like this?