The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[cyrixMII300]

funny.. 0907 wasn't stable for me at all. I had gone back to 0903 but the S3 issues that were fixed in 0907 caused me to upgrade to 1004 which allowed me to lower my voltages and it runs faster than 0903.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2942

could it be that its because you are running 45nm processors? mine is 65nm and perhaps that might be the problem. i dont know though coz i tried running and running but it didnt do me no good.

[Grnfinger]

I agree. I don't leave much on AUTO because you don't know what the BIOS is doing. How can you troubleshoot settings if you don't know what they are?

Auto CPU PLL gives about 1.60v yu can measure it at anytime in your BIOS, Everest. Auto for CPU PLL is a good starting point as it adjusts acordingly to your overclock, then you can tweak it from there manually.

could it be that its because you are running 45nm processors? mine is 65nm and perhaps that might be the problem. i dont know though coz i tried running and running but it didnt do me no good.

you cant load a saved bios profile after flashing from 907 to 1004.
clear cmos and redo your settings manually, then resave your profile.
And 1004 has nothing to do with 65nm or 45nm, anybody with 4GB's or higher should go to 1004 for its the only bios with higher trfc
1004 is the best so far and its an official release on the Taiwan ftp. No longer beta, this has been disscussed b4 many pages back. I would look at how you flashed the board and retry it.

[Cosmic81]

Hi Gys,

how are the measure points of Vcore, NB, FSB and VDIMM voltage on the Maximus Formula?


Bios to Actual vDroop listing


Are the LoadlineCalib on or off on this list ?


THX


Cos

[Grnfinger]

Any more news on those numbers?

I'm trying to get someone with the same cpu to co-operate, there is little point in running a side by side with dis-similar hardware.
Everyone with a "real" Rampage seems to have a quad. Perhaps I will open a new thread and get some scores.
MC2K was going to do some tests b4 he sold his Rampage but we didnt get together in time to run them, hard when there is such a time zone difference

[Grnfinger]

You can. If you flashed using the newest method involving AFUDOS it'll set the ROMID to that of whatever bios you flash so Asus Update will work just fine.

So that was the purpose of loading those wr1/wr2.bat files?
Maybe this information should be included/posted so ppl are clear what method is best for them. With changing the rom id this will definately be an issue for some later on.
The newer method of flashing should be the prefered way as it makes no seroius changes in voiding the warranty

[kup]

The .BAT files edited parts of the bios usually locked out, so we could flash the Rampage bios. With the ES version of AFUDOS it doesn't need to be edited.

[dimsdale]

Auto CPU PLL gives about 1.60v yu can measure it at anytime in your BIOS, Everest.

You can see CPU PLL in Everest? That would be great. I'm running it now. What is it called in Everest? I can't find that in there.

1004 is the best so far and its an official release on the Taiwan ftp.

I was on the ASUS Taiwan site last night and managed to find the BIOS downloads and downloaded 1004, but the file size was identical to the "beta" from the global site.

Not sure what to make of that.

[jwfitt]

You can see CPU PLL in Everest? That would be great. I'm running it now. What is it called in Everest? I can't find that in there.

I believe under Computer->Sensor it is "South Bridge PLL." I could be completely wrong though

[iadstudio]

Hey guys. I've fallen victim to the random BSOD on this board. Previously rock solid settings now randomly and fairly regularly crash. Here's what I'm running.

3.6 cpu
1.66 vcore (I know it's high. but that's what the POS chip needs)
400 mhz fsb
960 mhz memory
2.00 vdimm
1.54 nb vcore
1.17 sb vcore
1.58 fsb vtt

The system doesn't crash under stress since I can play UT3 for hours at a time but randomly it will crash when idle or whenever. Could this be a degradation problem or is this just part of the Maximus owner experience?

[zlojack]

I'm trying to get someone with the same cpu to co-operate, there is little point in running a side by side with dis-similar hardware.
Everyone with a "real" Rampage seems to have a quad. Perhaps I will open a new thread and get some scores.
MC2K was going to do some tests b4 he sold his Rampage but we didnt get together in time to run them, hard when there is such a time zone difference

Gotcha. Well, I think I'm going to be picking up a Q6600 next week some time, so if you want me to run anything, let me know. I'll contribute.

[cuke2u]

I just downloaded the Trial Ver of Everest and started to prime again using Blend. CPU temp result is very close between Probe and Everest, actually almost all the readings are close to each other. Not sure about Core 1 and Core 2 temp though, why are they higher than the actual CPU temp on Everest?

Hi, ofcourse it will, both are reading from the external diode, you need to read your core temps which are measured internally...
Chris

[Talonman]

I need help...

These were my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz with my Q6600 GO. As soon as I deinstalled my 8600 GT, and replaced it with an 9800 GX2, my favorite stable 3.8GHz BIOS settings would not boot withought getting a CPU Check on my Maximus LCD Poster. It booted fine using the BIOS default settings.

I had to then load in my saved OC profile in, and back er down to 3.3GHz.

I need to go back to OCing my system to get my 3.8GHz back. I was thinking it was just a CPU voltage issue, but have given it 2 small bumps with only getting back to 3.4GHz.

After an unsuccessful 3.5GHz attempt, I ran into that Maximus CMOS error message, that only time heals. (The clear CMOS button did not help me out.)

I must have tried 10 times booting unsuccessfully to get around the CMOS ERROR on the LCD Poster. The display would go from 'INIT ROM' to 'CMOS ERR' to System lockes up...

I was real close to removing the battery, but that was under the GX2 and I didn't want to take it back out. I chilled for 20 minutes with the power off to the PC. After some Captain Black, I was ready to try again...

Came back in, hit the system with power, and it acted like it was fine again!! Booted right up.

Loaded the last successful OC profile back in that worked with some light OCCT testing, then backed that down a tad for saftey. 3.4GHz is where she currently sits.

My gut feeling is that I am so new at OCing CPU's, that it just needs a BIOS adjustment that I havent tried yet...

The CMOS error did give me pause though... Scarry stuff for me!

I am trying to decide if I should go to the 1004 BIOS, or try and get 0907 to return my 3.8GHz...

I don't know what BIOS setting that my GX2 put more stress on that caused my system fo fail with a CPU check.

Any help would be appreachiated...

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.51250v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

My 4hour error free run using my 3.8GHz settings. Room temp was a brisk 55°F:



I havent seen any settings for Q6600's on BIOS 1004 that were above 3.8GHz..

I would like to.... If I flash to 1004, I would like a starting point. (Newbie)
I am running with 1 2GB stick of ram rated at 1.8v, and 5-5-5-18 timings.

[TouGe]

The .BAT files edited parts of the bios usually locked out, so we could flash the Rampage bios. With the ES version of AFUDOS it doesn't need to be edited.

Is there a benefit either way?

[trt740]

hey fellas any reason my usb drive doesn't load the msdos files after format

[rcjian]

Hi, ofcourse it will, both are reading from the external diode, you need to read your core temps which are measured internally...
Chris

Hi, I thought I read somewhere that newer CPUs like core 2 duo uses Digital Thermal Sensor to measure their temps internally which make it more accurate than the external diode that was used couple of years ago!

[Grnfinger]

hey fellas any reason my usb drive doesn't load the msdos files after format

Your formatting FAT32? and pointing to the DIR where your dos files are located?

[Grnfinger]

I need help...

These were my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz with my Q6600 GO. As soon as I deinstalled my 8600 GT, and replaced it with an 9800 GX2, my favorite stable 3.8GHz BIOS settings would not boot withought getting a CPU Check on my Maximus LCD Poster. It booted fine using the BIOS default settings.

I had to then load in my saved OC profile in, and back er down to 3.3GHz.

I need to go back to OCing my system to get my 3.8GHz back. I was thinking it was just a CPU voltage issue, but have given it 2 small bumps with only getting back to 3.4GHz.

After an unsuccessful 3.5GHz attempt, I ran into that Maximus CMOS error message, that only time heals. (The clear CMOS button did not help me out.)

I must have tried 10 times booting unsuccessfully to get around the CMOS ERROR on the LCD Poster. The display would go from 'INIT ROM' to 'CMOS ERR' to System lockes up...

I was real close to removing the battery, but that was under the GX2 and I didn't want to take it back out. I chilled for 20 minutes with the power off to the PC. After some Captain Black, I was ready to try again...

Came back in, hit the system with power, and it acted like it was fine again!! Booted right up.

Loaded the last successful OC profile back in that worked with some light OCCT testing, then backed that down a tad for saftey. 3.4GHz is where she currently sits.

My gut feeling is that I am so new at OCing CPU's, that it just needs a BIOS adjustment that I havent tried yet...

The CMOS error did give me pause though... Scarry stuff for me!

I am trying to decide if I should go to the 1004 BIOS, or try and get 0907 to return my 3.8GHz...

I don't know what BIOS setting that my GX2 put more stress on that caused my system fo fail with a CPU check.

Any help would be appreachiated...

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.51250v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

My 4hour error free run using my 3.8GHz settings. Room temp was a brisk 55°F:



I havent seen any settings for Q6600's on BIOS 1004 that were above 3.8GHz..

I would like to.... If I flash to 1004, I would like a starting point. (Newbie)
I am running with 1 2GB stick of ram rated at 1.8v, and 5-5-5-18 timings.

Maybe the 9800GX2 dosent like the PCI-E at 110?
I dont run a quad ne more so I'm sorry I cannot help you out.

[trt740]

Your formatting FAT32? and pointing to the DIR where your dos files are located?

read this thread see what you think i'm doing wrong? Please It would be a great help I thought I used these files usb files from the download?
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showth...t=55422&page=3

[kup]

Is there a benefit either way?

Well AFUDOS-ES is a one stop solution, but the method in the first post requires several steps to complete.

AFUDOS lets you flash back any time you want...

[TouGe]

Well AFUDOS-ES is a one stop solution, but the method in the first post requires several steps to complete.

AFUDOS lets you flash back any time you want...

I can't remember which way I flashed mine. No matter though, I am happy w/ where I am at now.

[dude_500]

There's really no need to run at 110 talonman, the bus is not even close to the bottleneck on any games that are out right now, only MAYBE in rare situations in advanced CG work with heavy textures.

[Talonman]

Thanks for the reply... I will change that to 100.

[dude_500]

Hey guys. I've fallen victim to the random BSOD on this board. Previously rock solid settings now randomly and fairly regularly crash. Here's what I'm running.

3.6 cpu
1.66 vcore (I know it's high. but that's what the POS chip needs)
400 mhz fsb
960 mhz memory
2.00 vdimm
1.54 nb vcore
1.17 sb vcore
1.58 fsb vtt

The system doesn't crash under stress since I can play UT3 for hours at a time but randomly it will crash when idle or whenever. Could this be a degradation problem or is this just part of the Maximus owner experience?

Probably burning your chip out lol... 1.66 dang something's wrong with that chip. I hit 3.6 on my old 6420 at 1.36v, I think it's defective or something.

[rcjian]

Prime small fft = stress on CPU primarily
Prime blend = more stress on the NB/Ram than CPU.

Try raising your NB Core, Vdimm(Ram volt) and a relaxed timings. Don't adjust all of the above in the same time. I'd suggest try NB core volt first since you're already good for ~2 hr blend.

With 4GB I agree more NB juice 1.53-1.55 to start

Hi guys! I tried raising my NB from 1.47 to 1.49 and left it priming overnight, but worker thread 2 got the hardware failure error at 9 hrs and 18 min while worker thread 1 continued without error. Raised it again to 1.51 and priming stopped at 1hr or so! Dropped the volts to 1.50 and it primed for 3 hrs or so then error again. Now I put it back to 1.49 and set the values below to all 'auto' and its priming again right now.
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Anymore opinions and suggestions are very much appreciated. Thanks guys!

[cuke2u]

Hi, I thought I read somewhere that newer CPUs like core 2 duo uses Digital Thermal Sensor to measure their temps internally which make it more accurate than the external diode that was used couple of years ago!

Hi, like I said, use the core temp readings as they are more accurate as to the temps your CPU is running...
Chris