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Thread: LANPARTY DK X38-T2R The all new party crasher

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    Lightbulb LANPARTY DK X38-T2R The all new party crasher

    What do you guys think about this board? Is it better than the DFI LP DK P35-T2RS€112. I am considering getting this X38 or will it be a waste of money?
    LANPARTY DK X38-T2R €160. Meanwhile i woun´t be crossfiring any card in near future
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    LGA 775 socket for:
    - Intel® CoreTM2 Quad and Intel® CoreTM2 Duo
    Supports Intel Enhanced Memory 64 Technology (EMT64T)
    Supports Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology (EIST)
    Supports Intel Hyper-Threading Technology
    Supports 1333*/1066/800MHz system bus speed
    *Available only on CPUs that support 1333MHz FSB


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    - Northbridge: Intel X38 Express chipset (with Intel Fast Memory Access technology)
    - Southbridge: Intel ICH9R


    Memory
    Four 240-pin DDR2 DIMM sockets
    Supports DDR2 667/800 MHz
    Delivers up to 12.8Gb/s bandwidth
    Supports dual channel (128-bit wide) memory interface
    Supports up to 8GB system memory
    Supports unbuffered x8 and x16 DIMMs


    Expansion Slots
    2 PCI Express (Gen 2) x16 slots (PCIE 1 and PCIE 3)
    - 2-way CrossFire at x16/x16 bandwidth
    1 PCI Express x4 slot (PCIE 2)
    3 PCI slots
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    It all depends upon you're expectations are and what cpu you are putting into it. All the DK boards have 4 phase power, unlike the LT or UT's. Some will argue that for a quad, the 4 phase will not give you enough stable power for a quad core. The DK P35 seemed to handle quadcore Q6600's decently. max fsb seemed to be around 450-475 for that one. DFI just came out with a DK X48. Motherboardpro has it in stock. Simliar DK board, just the X48 chipset. Most seem to go with the LT versions around here and go for max clocks. The DK's do seem to produce some very good overclocking results judging from the posts here.
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    bios is very imature,
    some mem settings are off by 2
    volts cant go below defaults
    has trouble with 45nm procs at about 470-5 fsb
    hangs sometimes after setting certain volts on nb (hard reset fixes)

    cant recomend this board till they work on the bios some more
    perhaps dfi need more time to reverse other manufaturers bioses lol
    maybe ill try to flash x48 bio on it, looks like identicle board
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    the DK is more of a midrange so there arnt many people here who would get one, but if u want a work station or something that isnt oced (or oced past 400fsb) then this would be a great board (or high oc 8 series)

    or something to learn to tweak ram with, it has most of the settings that the LT/UT have but it has amplitude instead of gtl phase
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    I will be putting a Q6600 on it and am aiming for a 3.4Ghz as 24/7 clock.
    My ASUS P5N-E became naughty (random rebooting even with settings that use to work before), it use to stable at 3.2ghz then 3.1ghz and now am at stock speed. Well the P35 and X38 has the same lay out and the only difference is the dual pci-e 16x and the X38 NB chip. If there woun´t be a significant gain in overclocking with it then i have to settle for the P35. Like i wrote in my first post, i don´t intend running a dual vga card.


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    go for the DFI X48 DK. It has 8 phase digital PWM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzbleach View Post
    go for the DFI X48 DK. It has 8 phase digital PWM.
    That woun´t be a bad idea, but am low on cash. I intend spending €160 maximum. Meanwhile you have the DK P35, how is the preformance and stability?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nzbleach View Post
    go for the DFI X48 DK. It has 8 phase digital PWM.
    DK x38 and x48 are exactly the same pcb lol

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    MB pro says 8 phase digital
    http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-La...ard-p-557.html
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    Socket-775 for Intel Core TM2 Quad, Core TM 2 Duo, Core TM2 Extreme
    Socket-775 for Intel Pentium® D
    8 Phase digital PWM

    it also has a soldered bios block so thats another down side
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    yeah but theres a header on there to plug in a chip somehow so your not totaly stuck with the soldered on chip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lome View Post
    yeah but theres a header on there to plug in a chip somehow so your not totaly stuck with the soldered on chip
    As it relate to most users they will still be stuck. The connector is pretty much useless unless one has access to a SPI serial flash programmer.

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    Praz, is that accurate about the PWM power phase for the DK X48? Looking at the picture of the motherboard @ motherboardpro, it looks like 4 phase PWM, not 8.

    This pic is from DFI's site and I only see 2 coils by each PWM. That should be only a 4 phase PWM.
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    If u consider the DK X38, for the same price I would get a P35 LP LT, better voltage regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2k View Post
    If u consider the DK X38, for the same price I would get a P35 LP LT, better voltage regulations.
    It goes for €184 without shipping
    http://www.alternate.de/html/product...&l3=Sockel+775

    DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS €104
    http://www.alternate.de/html/product...&l3=Sockel+775

    DFI LANPARTY DK X38-T2R €144,44
    http://www.trend4pc.de/product_info....oducts_id/1282
    Most are not instock in this shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lome View Post
    DK x38 and x48 are exactly the same pcb lol
    Pls. what does this 4 and 8 phase PWM do
    I don´t have any idea of what you guys are writting.
    Call me stupid, but can someone explain it in a lame man language


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    Pls. what does this 4 and 8 phase PWM do
    The PWM or Pulse Width Modulator, regulates power to the cpu. The trend has been to go from analog PWM's to digital PWM's.

    Older P35 boards, like the ABIT IP35, used an analog 4 phase PWM that could power the Q6600 quads very well. The higher end boards switched over to 6 or 8 phase PWM's. The "budget" boards, like the DK boards use 4 phase PWM's. The Blood Iron (DFI's P35 budget board) had a 4 phase PWM that did not seem to do well at all with quads. However, DFI's subsequent DK boards, even though they use 4 phase PWM, seemed to do ok with quads. DFI seems to have implemented a better (more durable) 4 phase PWM in these boards.

    However, an 8 phase PWM will run comparatively cooler and supply stable power more efficiently than a 4 phase PWM.

    That's how I understand it.
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    I haven't seen the board with the heatsinks removed. I've been told that it utilizes 4 phases, 2 FETs per phase.

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    Thanks Praz, what I was mistakenly calling coils in my earlier post are correctly named fets.
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    Those are indeed coils. The FETs are under the heatsinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailindawg View Post
    The PWM or Pulse Width Modulator, regulates power to the cpu. The trend has been to go from analog PWM's to digital PWM's.

    Older P35 boards, like the ABIT IP35, used an analog 4 phase PWM that could power the Q6600 quads very well. The higher end boards switched over to 6 or 8 phase PWM's. The "budget" boards, like the DK boards use 4 phase PWM's. The Blood Iron (DFI's P35 budget board) had a 4 phase PWM that did not seem to do well at all with quads. However, DFI's subsequent DK boards, even though they use 4 phase PWM, seemed to do ok with quads. DFI seems to have implemented a better (more durable) 4 phase PWM in these boards.

    However, an 8 phase PWM will run comparatively cooler and supply stable power more efficiently than a 4 phase PWM.

    That's how I understand it.
    Thanks pal for explaining to NOOB.
    Well i ordered the DK LP P35 T2RS some mins back and i have two weeks to return it if i don´t like it or find any fault with the board.
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    Those are indeed coils. The FETs are under the heatsinks.
    Thanks for setting me straight on that!!
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    I got mine from TrendPc and am very happy, apart from that my OCZ Reaper HPC PC2-8000 wont boot in it at all, running my Q6600 @ 3GHZ with all stock setting and Vcore, waiting for RAM to get sorted b4 I really push it to the maximum.

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    Talking

    I got the all Solid aluminum capacitor board, with 5 fan header. Boy am lucky, so far so good, am running this baby on 3.1Ghz all setting on auto. The bios is equally loaded with.......damn!!! I don´t know what to change to go higher on my oc. Hellppppp!!!!
    I don´t need new chipset waterblocks as my old one fited prefectly(Warrant void) . Thanks once more to all that helped me out on this
    This board just turned me into an OC noob, please can someone save me some time by posting his setting. I know my english sucks, am so damn sorry
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    this is what DFI say about the PWM's on the Dark series boards which I found on Clunk's forum

    " DK series are using Intersil newer PWM IC which has support Intel SMbus interface to control Vcore voltage,
    it is 4 phase (16 MOSFET) pwm solution. Generally somebody called it is a Digital PWM as well, because it is control via SMbus.

    But it still base on traditional PWM structure (PWM IC+MOSFET), its power tranfering efficiency is not higher as like Volterra solution ( Digital control bus design without mosfet circuit)."

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    my head hurts, all this voltage talk, no wonder i havent been over here for so long...lol feel so n00bish all this talk.
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