Phenom 9500 w/ MSI K9A2 Platinum

[LIKMARK]

Yelding as a patched b2 or unpatched b2?

Edit: Read in your DFI thread that it is patched. Of course it will yield about the same as a b2 as long as you disable the same parts of the L3

[KTE]

Stability Update:-

Bad news but good news in a way too.
I had the last setting ~15 hours idling stable (meaning WISE stable) - until I went off, came back and tried opening this Google Book whilst scrolling up and down quickly, whilst zooming in/out: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=T...=en#PPT1546,M1

It froze within 5 secs
So I tested more and more idle stability by the same procedure because it worked very well and instant.. would my previously stable settings also fail that test?

3010 x1/2900 x3 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2947MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2928MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2914MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2909/2902MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2898MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2870MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2860MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle failed and load stable
2828MHz 1.516v / 1.480v - idle stable and load stable

See how much FAR below real stability was?
The difference being, I was testing for instability, as in actively finding it.
All of those settings were UT3, Crysis, Memtest, EVEREST, Prime 95 stable BTW, but they obviously only test portions f the CPU.

I have not dropped volts yet, just changed speed settings before I can finally declare what is stable for daily use. I am very GLAD I've found a way to very quickly test the instability other procedures were not detecting, now I can finally map things out and move on instead of running around in nightmare circles. I skipped a region below 2860 to speeden things up, now I'll test in-between, as I find the stable setting, I'll then rigorously test it with dropping volts until I find the lowest. Before I needed 1.44v for 2860 stable, with this new test, who knows. This is what I'm currently at right now =>

What is the difference between CPU VID and CPU VDDC?

I change the vcore in the BIOS and it changes the CPU VDDC. But i've noticed that if i chance the CPU VID in AMD Overdrive, I get more stable overclocking. Any help?

You know, a search will always help you and me especially on something explained on every other Phenom thread page

All you need to know is;

VID = not CPU volts, sets accessible voltage boundaries
VDDC = CPU volts

Well, this is the first good news I've really had so far from my 9850. 2750 for the nb is stable at 1.325 nb vid. Beyond that I'm trying for 3ghz nb, and its taking ALOT more voltage, 1.525 is being tested for stability right now. Once I get it stable I will post some screenies, only got everest bandwidth tests to run at 1.5v. Mem was 500mhz 5-3-3-9 so to not worry about it at all, latency was like 81 with the nb at 2.5ghz, at 3ghz it dropped to 75.7. Too bad this chip doesn't clock well... 2.8ghz took me 1.4v but that might just be the vapo.

This seems weird, I'll wait to see the b/w numbers before I can comment but latency is a direct function of IMC speed in K10h. So you were testing DDR2-1000 5-3-3-9 2.7-3G NB?

Tye, what seems to be the best programs to accurately test the Phenom please? Also I used Sam2008 TLB Fix tool and Enabled the TLB Fix through his program and find that it yields the same result in WinRAR as the Phenom B2 Stepping did Any idea on whats up with that?

Yelding as a patched b2 or unpatched b2?

Edit: Read in your DFI thread that it is patched. Of course it will yield about the same as a b2 as long as you disable the same parts of the L3

It's expected because it's changing the same CPU performance registers as LIKMARK said

There is no one program to properly test Phenom stability, we have to rely on the known honesty of individuals.
The better way I see it is, make sure settings are benchable, Memtest stable, then boot into Windows and test stability in Everest > Prime 95 Small FFT > Gaming > Run that setup daily, open web-browser and start trying to open many tabs/sites incl. many programs from Start menu, and load THIS sites inside browser and start flicking through the pages as fast as you can whilst zooming in and out - don't reboot, keep it idling like 12-15 hours just to see - if its unstable, it'll fail pretty damn quickly. That link I'm giving above is a very good idling stability test for Phenom if you follow that procedure.