Could B3 Phenom be the rebirth of AMD....+1000MHZ OC done!

[flippin_waffles]

How can 1.5v be so bad for daily use, when benchers use 2v on 45nm for hours and hours? If 1.5v would kill a chip in less than a couple of years, stock voltage would kill it within about 5 years I guess, and that's pretty insane.

I think you need to qualify that a bit. I doubt very much if benchers use 2v on 45nm for hours and hours. Quite possibly an hour on ln2, but that's not your typical bencher. There's what, maybe 5 or 10 people in the entire world that bench with ln.

[uwackme]

I have a 22 yr old Toshiba 8Mhz 68000 chip, running 32Mhz for the duration with a slight overvolt to 5.5V and a custom heatsink.... fastest 68000 based Atari ever

[YukonTrooper]

Doesn't surprise me. Phenom is 65nm. Conroe is 65nm and is also rated for up to 1.55v, so i guess Kentsfield also. If you're cooling is sufficient enough then why bother about 1.5v.

3.5Ghz at 1.5V is poop. That's why.

[SocketMan]

Integrated Memory Controller is your and

[Oldguy932]

Just got mine in today. I hope it works better under cold than my B2's all did.

[pablo NZ]

lol @ worrying about electromigration...

OH NOES my cpu is only going to last 15 years instead of 20 D:

That unreferenced wiki article certainly elucidates it nicely as well.

[wiak]

hey wiak, Im interested in getting the same DS5 board you just got. Did you try OC'in the 9850 yet? Cuz Im looking at that very combo and was wondering how its treating you. Also, how many phases is the DS5 is its PWM high enough quality to drive overclocking the 9850?


Thanks

i think its 6 phase, its a quality board with many bios settings

did anyone notice in AMD Overdrive that voltage on vcore is kinda wrong on diffrent tabs?

setting in clock/voltage tab, have set it to 1.35v


System Status says 1.35v


but voltage and temperatur says 1.41v


wreid, amd needs to fix this ^^
and add a minimize to tray option, and ATI overdrive support for RV670 :P fix that IGP does discrete cards to meybe change it to Radeon :P

[Tony]

3.5Ghz at 1.5V is poop. That's why.

comparing against an intel yes, but the build process is very different on both CPU's and the architecture is also very different with the Phenom not lending its self to massive OC's like Intels process does.

Also default voltage is 1.3V on my CPU, a 0.2V increase gets me near 1000MHZ OC stable...thats not that bad you know

[Brother Esau]

Good Morning Tony
I have a question for you Regarding my 9850 BE with OCZ 2X2gb Reapers HPC

This is the first time I have ever run 4gb of Ram is there anything that I should know in advance with Running 4gb Ram with Phenom on the DFI 790FX of important do's and don'ts when overclocking , Bios Set up and especially Installing Windows?

Thank you Tony

[Tony]

you have to set manual 1066 mode, set timings to 5-6-6-24-26 TRFC 195 rest auto. Voltage 2V

reboot

Now go back and the timing option should have increased, IE TRC to 41 etc...now run some memtest to make sure its all stable.

[Brother Esau]

Is there a Issue installing Vista with 4gb Ram Still?

[LIKMARK]

not for me

[RFC Rudel]

Is there a Issue installing Vista with 4gb Ram Still?

no whit sp1.

[Brother Esau]

Well I bought Vista Home Premium OEM so it does not have SP1 Incorporated into it.

Please advise>>>>>>>>>>>

[KTE]

did anyone notice in AMD Overdrive that voltage on vcore is kinda wrong on diffrent tabs?

Check around, this has been covered many times -> 1.35 is VID, system status shows VID, voltage/temperature shows voltage, and both are correct. You've moved the CPU VID up which automatically moves voltage up.

Voltage is 1.41V there, AOD main page is still reading the old voltage at a lower VID instead of the new VID and voltage. You have CPU 1.35VID/1.41V [set] and 1.375VID IMC. Something is buggy with your sliders though - just check EVEREST/HWMon voltage, should be close to real

[wiak]

not for me

not for me :P
and btw vista 64-bit ftw

[MrMojoZ]

Is there a Issue installing Vista with 4gb Ram Still?

Installed Vista 64bit on my Phenom with 4gigs of OCZ Reaper with no problems. Yay for a 64bit Media Center!

[GenTarkin]

guys, going on a little tangent here, but hope you can help....
I am in a quandry about which board to get for phenom for my upgrade....
Its between the gigabyte 790FX-DS5 and the DFI LP DK 790FX-M2RS

which board would hold better to overclocking and also which board is more flexible with what RAM you use with it.

Also, those screen shots earlier in this thread on the gigabyte board, with HWmonitor...showing the amps and wattages on the rails....is that a gigabyte board only and does the DS5 feature this?
Ive also read through this thread, that the DFI bios is more of a pain in the butt to fine tweak because its really buggy sometimes...and all the C1 issues Im reading about...does the DS5 have this much trouble?

Thanks guys for your help =)

[Koekerwauz_NL]

@ Tony

Thanks fore putting in the efford regarding to the 9850BE.
I'm still waiting for the 45nm phenom series. My current cpu will do fine.

I'm upgrading my memory first.
Can you tell me what the differences are between the reaper and the platinum 1066 2x2GB kits besides the look.
Are the techincal the same?

I want to now because my HUMONGOUS IFX-14 is blocking the first 2 dimm slots due to height. I've got only 40mm of space between the top of the dimm slot to the base of the cooler.

thx

[Brother Esau]

Well I'm partial to DFI for many reasons but one of the biggest is that there is a removable/replaceable PLCC Bios Chip which is just more sensible for people like us who Flash bios like a Olympic Sport and if anything goes wrong you can just get another Bios Chip vs having to send in your entire motherboard to Gigabyte and wait 2+ weeks to get it back

Also DFI is a better made product and usually in general overclocks the best and DFI support is much better then others by far!

[keithlm]

I am in a quandry about which board to get for phenom for my upgrade.... Its between the gigabyte 790FX-DS5 and the DFI LP DK 790FX-M2RS

...C1 issues Im reading about...does the DS5 have this much trouble?

Thanks guys for your help =)

I like DFI. Their tech answered me last night after only a few minutes about my C1 problems. Sadly I didn't check regular e-mail until today. But yeah... I second Brother Esau's opinion. Although I chose the M2R board because it has better audio, better cooling, a POST LED, and I think it has better power supply regulation. And a removeable BIOS chip to boot. (Bad pun alert.)

(Although I've had gigabyte in the past. They are good also. But I wanted the ALC885 onboard sound so I don't need X-Fi. The ALC is compatible with FreeBSD. Creative isn't even compatible with creative.)

It sounds like most 790FX boards have some issues. I suspect that the "dreaded C1" problem comes up with the DFI more often because the M2R has an LED that shows POST codes... so people actually SEE a C1 code. So someone with another motherboard probably wouldn't call it a C1 error. They'd just call it a boot problem.

Well I bought Vista Home Premium OEM so it does not have SP1 Incorporated into it.

Please advise>>>>>>>>>>>

I always have to remove memory to install. Both 32 and 64 versions. I did "slipstream SP1" onto a few disks while waiting for my stuff.. but haven't had a chance to try try them with 4Gb yet.

But theoretically a slipstreamed Vista+Sp1 disk should work. (You can easily slipstream with vLite at http://www.vlite.net/)

[Oese]

btw what happened to gigabytes dual bios technology? i had a gigabyte board for my oced pIII in the good old days before moving to amd and it had two bioschips and replaceable as well...

only mb i owned with a soldered bioschip was a crappy elitegroup...

I'm partial to DFI too but thats more because i love the tweakability which is groundbreaking... since i had the first nF3 Ultra-D i never had another mb brand...

another pro is the ez-switch technology which enables you to reset bios without opening the case... and on the other hand operate the board without any case.. and of course that beloved CMOS reloaded

[Brother Esau]

keithlm;2909084]I like DFI. Their tech answered me last night after only a few minutes about my C1 problems. Sadly I didn't check regular e-mail until today. But yeah... I second Brother Esau's opinion. Although I chose the M2R board because it has better audio, better cooling, a POST LED, and I think it has better power supply regulation. And a removeable BIOS chip to boot. (Bad pun alert.)[/B]

D.F.I inc is the Best Fanboy? Whatever!!!! Thats right I said it! I am loyal to products and companies that treat their customers the right way and make exceptional products

[wiak]

guys, going on a little tangent here, but hope you can help....
I am in a quandry about which board to get for phenom for my upgrade....
Its between the gigabyte 790FX-DS5 and the DFI LP DK 790FX-M2RS

which board would hold better to overclocking and also which board is more flexible with what RAM you use with it.

Also, those screen shots earlier in this thread on the gigabyte board, with HWmonitor...showing the amps and wattages on the rails....is that a gigabyte board only and does the DS5 feature this?
Ive also read through this thread, that the DFI bios is more of a pain in the butt to fine tweak because its really buggy sometimes...and all the C1 issues Im reading about...does the DS5 have this much trouble?

Thanks guys for your help =)

url to tool i can check ^^
i think amps and stuff is by using gigabyte odin gt that allows psu monitoring
i dont think any mb can monitor amps atm

[Oese]

yeah service of course.. just write to dfi and they'll send you whatever a chipset cooler, an i/o-panel.. all at no charge..