Thermochill cheat? (Who can read portugese)

[disruptfam]

what is this about??

http://www.techzonept.com/showthread.php?t=262752

[ZOMGVTEK]

http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

That help?

[nullface]

I dont see how this is cheat, they have great flow (be course of the hole) but still they manage too beat every other rad. in temps.

Other brands could do the same, if they can hold the temps down.

[evil-98]

oh wow.. thats not right.. "scratches chin" i doubt that was purposeful

none the less +1 for cutting open a thermochill -1 for a hole

[biftek.]

How is that cheating?
Where are the rules on how to make a radiator?

If that hole was on purpose, and it does what that thread suggests, more power to Thermochill on a brilliant design that paid off.

[disruptfam]

yeah i don't get how this is cheating???

[nullface]

How is that cheating?
Where are the rules on how to make a radiator?

If that hole was on purpose, and it does what that thread suggests, more power to Thermochill on a brilliant design that paid off.

+1
I dont see the problem

[evil-98]

yeah i don't get how this is cheating???

i think people would consider it cheating b/c we never knew

[FuriousSalesman]

I guess it is true that water can bypass the baffle. However, despite that, the Thermochill radiator dissipates more heat than other radiators.

[Sam__]

looks kinda sneaky lol but fair play to em. it performs well so...

[disruptfam]

There are no rules no guidelines on how to make a rad,shouldn't matter how they made it as long as it performs well.

[Digz]

This for a flow winner then





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[SiGfever]

So this is a surprise to anyone? All you have to do is look down thru the ports and you can see the divider. I've know that since I bought my first one. They still cool the best with low to mid speed fans. So if the gap has any effect on anything, how do you explain that?

They didn't do it to cheat IMO, just part of the manufacturing process. Just more FUD as far as I'm concerned. Other rad makers getting desperate because TC is kicking there asses.

andyc

QFT!

[coolmiester]

You don't know what’s in a tin of beans until you open them so how on earth can this be classed as sneaky in any way shape or form - Thermochill has been around for a long time now so more fool us for not opening the can.

Personally i think this is a manufacturing error and its not meant to be like that but I could be wrong and I’ll cut one open if the need arises but I’m sure all the major players will have by now

[Pedalmonkey]

plus the HUGE HOLE is really very small. All thermochill rads have them and they still take more heat wattage than any other rad out there. they flow well because of the tube size and the angles in the rad as well.

:Edit: most thermochill rads Martinm and some others on this forum looked at all had the hole, its just a common manufacturing flaw thru all the thermochill rads. :Edit:

[iandh]

...iandh watches as all XS members start frantically trying to fill the hole with bondo, epoxy, etc to gain .5C lower temps.

[Vargher Warg]

...iandh watches as all XS members start frantically trying to fill the hole with bondo, epoxy, etc to gain .5C lower temps.

Or maybe someone starts selling three different sizes of nozzles?

[Maglin]

I don't think it's a "FLAW" but more a design characteristic. Why all the fuss? If you don't like it replace your PA rad with a MCR. Yeah it might not cool as well have have a ton more pressure drop but it won't have a small gap in the divider.

I just got a new 120.3 and I checked it to see how big it was. It's so small that I don't think its even effecting temps as water will mostly go to the path of least resistance. TC also doesn't have to disclose anything about their radiator design. I'm willing to bet if you where to seal the divider that pressure drop will increase and the temp's may only go down .2*C.

[Polizei]

The only thing that bothers me about that hole is that it doesn't seem like it would get a ton of flow, so solder will just sit in there. No matter how much you flush it, I still think solder is going to be in there. Might explain some cloudy tubing?

[systemviper]

That extra squeeze space could be just part of a well done design that doesn't allow full load on the pump but still utilizes the master design of the thermal cooling fins.

Or if the water starts going low or the rad is run is a weird position it could help ,

Or it could help the priming of the system without impacting temps.

There is probally a formula for it like .....

m = t /(s �du/dy) = Force/(Area x Velocity/Length) = mlt-2/(l2�lt-1/ l) = l-1mt-1, that is [cm-1g sec-1].

[DavidNJ]

Isn't that a space between the tank and the case?

[YugenM]

...iandh watches as all XS members start frantically trying to fill the hole with bondo, epoxy, etc to gain .5C lower temps.

*grabs popcorn and sits down to watch with iandh*

[Martinm210]

FYI, my quick numbers look at why I wouldn't worry about it.

For example on my E6600 CPU only loop(125 watt heatload), lets take a look at the PA 120.3's performance relative to flow rate using the c/w curves.

If I extract the c/w value for 1.5 GPM then lower flow rate to 1.0 GPM

The difference on the PA120.3 with nexus fans at 12V is

1.5GPM = 3.97 water/air dela
1.0GPM = 4.06 water/air delta

So even if you were loosing 33% of your flow rate, your net difference is .09C.

Now look at the leak in the plate, probably what .5mm x 10mm (5 square mm)? Now look at the flow tubes, 2mm by 19mm x 12each (456 square mm) give or take. So the net sectional area relative percentage is 1% or some low single digit number.

If it takes 33% loss in flow to make a .09C difference and we probably really only have 1-2% of loss, I wouldn't waste your time patching anything..

[NaeKuh]

LMAO...

+1

andyc

share the popcorn PIGS!

*joining andy*

[skinnee]

cheating...rofl!