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Thread: Could B3 Phenom be the rebirth of AMD....+1000MHZ OC done!

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    Charles whats up brother? Good to see the Main Gazine onboard and joining the Festivities
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonspd View Post
    tony any chance in running the F@H smp client to see what frame rate you get around 3.0ghz+ ?
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us know how well it folds at 3+Ghz! OMFG that would make my day. I also need to know if it can handle the SMP Client while overclocked. A lot of overclocked CPUs cause constant errors on the SMP client because it sniffs out ANY system instability you have. The SMP F@H client is the best test for system stability. If any of you don't believe me, try it out.

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    waiting for my paycheck to pick me up a new 9850 to drop in my M3A32-MVP to see how the Asus likes these new Phenoms.

    I will be taking it to the next Team ATL meet to see how they do under Ice and Cascade.

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    Wow, that's pretty crazy if a Phenom beats a Kentsfield/Yorkfield clock for clock.

    I think the 3dmark run there could have been a glitch... I found this other run...
    Check out this Q6600s CPU score @ 3401MHz
    1.7%

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    Simply put:

    All I see is Phenom approaching C2D territory. They aint there yet. Stock off the shelves ??? AMD has an argument. A Competitor.
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    has DFI comment on rolling a new board with the SB700?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBruno View Post
    Simply put:

    All I see is Phenom approaching C2D territory. They aint there yet. Stock off the shelves ??? AMD has an argument. A Competitor.
    I'm pretty sure that this thread is not meant to be about how Core 2's perform... as has been stated more than a few times.
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    This certainly looks promising. Bulldozer should really make things interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loser777 View Post
    Wow, that's pretty crazy if a Phenom beats a Kentsfield/Yorkfield clock for clock.

    I think the 3dmark run there could have been a glitch... I found this other run...
    Check out this Q6600s CPU score @ 3401MHz
    http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08141/06daily202.jpg

    That's with Windows XP. Both Phenom and Yorkfield test were running Windows Vista.

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    Tony is a qualified rep, and would not rig a bench in favor of either brand.

    His benches were ran completely fair and similar to one another.
    Yes XP will gain a couple points over Vista, but lets not turn this into a Intel vs AMD thread.

    Tony has already gone against his original post to state anything about an Intel bench, mainly because he didn't want this to start happening. The only reason he posted the comparison is to show that AMD is starting to reach Intel with the B3 revision as far as performance. Let's leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenWall View Post
    Tony is a qualified rep, and would not rig a bench in favor of either brand.

    His benches were ran completely fair and similar to one another.
    Yes XP will gain a couple points over Vista, but lets not turn this into a Intel vs AMD thread.

    Tony has already gone against his original post to state anything about an Intel bench, mainly because he didn't want this to start happening. The only reason he posted the comparison is to show that AMD is starting to reach Intel with the B3 revision as far as performance. Let's leave it at that.

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    QFT and is not to be interpreted as permission to keep asking about AMD / Intel comparisons please. Tony gave ya'll what you wanted appreciate it and be content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Esau View Post
    QFT and is not to be interpreted as permission to keep asking about AMD / Intel comparisons please. Tony gave ya'll what you wanted appreciate it and be content.
    I don't think it's what everybody wants.
    Some people would like nothing better than to see Intel dominating over AMD, so they can rub it in others' faces.

    And this isn't the only forum it happens on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER View Post
    I picked up a 9850 for cold testing and to better educate myself on the bus and operational limitations. $400 with GA-MA790FX-DS5

    The win at low Mhz is the onboard memory controller and very low latency achieved, a definite advantage for AMD.

    My Kryotech has mounting for AM2 as well as adjustable in 1 degree ticks. Should be interesting if I can avoid the cold bug and hit max temp.
    Does anyone actually know where the cold bug is on these chips? I don't believe I've seen anyone trying them under ice yet.
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    @ Fugger, waiting for some nice screenies, Sir!!
    @ Tony, amazing work, thanks for sharing!! Vista really is a sucker for CPU score heh!!

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    First review of the Phenom 9550 here (in Chinese):

    http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/revie...4/1262586.html

    They were able to overclock it to 2.86GHz:



    Looks like most B3's are good overclockers, limited largely by their multipliers, unlike the B2's. A 9750, with its 12x multiplier, might turn out to be a cheap and easy way to get to 3GHz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apokalipse View Post
    I'm pretty sure that this thread is not meant to be about how Core 2's perform... as has been stated more than a few times.
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    TONY won't mind. He broke his own rules earlier.

    Besides, I didn't say anything offensive either way.

    I'm just happy to see an AMD keep up w/ C2D.
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    I wont take this thread off topic, mine should be here by this weekend.

    Just understand that I am more apt to showing the wins on Intel.
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    Tony, what happened with the benchmarks and the performance comparison between the differently clocked NB & L3 of a 3GHz Phenom?

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    I had to go back to work guys, benching takes time away from what i do for a living so i have to balance the two. Also the Gigabyte bad flashed and the DFI has a boot to bios issue so im battling a board at the moment to try and get the clocks i had with the DQ6. Hitting reset 10 times each time you boot because the board hangs loading bios with a blue bar and flashing cursor really can do ones head in

    I will do my best to run off some benches, in the mean time please if you get a phenom just join the fun here, see how well it does and post some results.
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    Anyone tested this with an AX78, I'm looking to get one for the next build and want to drop a Phenom in, need to know if it clocks well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I had to go back to work guys, benching takes time away from what i do for a living so i have to balance the two. Also the Gigabyte bad flashed and the DFI has a boot to bios issue so im battling a board at the moment to try and get the clocks i had with the DQ6. Hitting reset 10 times each time you boot because the board hangs loading bios with a blue bar and flashing cursor really can do ones head in

    I will do my best to run off some benches, in the mean time please if you get a phenom just join the fun here, see how well it does and post some results.
    Tony my M2RS does that also. The computer must be turned on for a few minutes before entering bios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnJoY View Post
    Does anyone actually know where the cold bug is on these chips? I don't believe I've seen anyone trying them under ice yet.
    I don't know if any has tested the b3 coldbug temp, but due to how high the other amd chips are (especialy the b2s), I'd say a chiller or single stage would be a better idea (a properly tuned single stage would probably be the best, but that would mean retuning an old unit or making a new one)
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    That bench is in XP, I ran 2x ultra's on the same build of vista64 with the same video driver...how can my score be glitched?

    Also I was running as close to stock FSB as I could to remain apples to apples, HTT makes no difference on Phenom so running 250 or 200 is no different.
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    @Tony: Can you run sandra latency test without freezing in the 3GHz area? That test always freezes my machine above ~2.85GHz, can prime 2.9GHz fine for hours but that special test always leads to freezing.

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