The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[adrenaline7879]

edited*

[Spyrus]

strap 333 is the most easy i have benced fsb 500@600MHz memory

[wreckwriter]

4.0GHz is walk in the park.
Post your bios settings and we can see what needs to be adjusted

OK, here we go:

Asus Maximus Formula, e8400, 4 GB G-Skill PC2 8500 RAM, 8800GTS video, PC Power and Cooling 750 PSU, Gigabyte Aurora 3d case. Running XP Pro SP2. Bios 0907

Cooling is self built. mostly water, MCP655 pump, PA 120.3 rad (mounted on back of case with 3 medium speed Yates pulling), D-Tek Fuzion CPU block (with washer only), DD Ione video block, EK NB-S-Max northbridge block, XSPC 5 1/4 bay reservoir (components are in that order in loop). Fluid is distilled water with a few drops of Petra's nuke, TIM is MX-2 except CPU which is AS-5. All tubing is 1/2" ID, 3/4" OD. South bridge is air cooled with Thermalright HR-05 IFX with Sythe fan, mosfets with Thermalright HR-09 Type 2 sinks, RAM is cooled by a Corsair Dominator.

Bios settings:

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO 
CAS# Latency : 5,5,5,15
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 
RAS# Precharge : 
RAS# ActivateTime : 
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 
Write Recovery Time : 
Read to Precharge Time : 

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 
Write to Read Delay (S) : 
Write to Read Delay (D) : 
Read to Read Delay (S) : 
Read to Read Delay (D) : 
Write to Write Delay (S) : 
Write to Write Delay (D) : 
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : AUTO
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : AUTO 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : AUTO 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : ENABLED 
Vanderpool Technology : ENABLED 
Execute Disable Bit : ENABLED 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : AUTO

Thanks very much for any tips!

[MrWizard6600]

Odd, I have the regular Ballartix and they looked liek 16 chip double sided and so are my TRacers. Anywayz, I can say the regular and Tracers mixed fine and so did the Tracers and OCZ Plats or Corsair Dominators and OCZ Plats. They all did well to 500FSB in 1:1 all 4 but needed more NB to 1.52v and FSBT to 1.488v. Keep the NB as low as can to keep the heat down cause 4 sticks taxes any mobo and especially on OC. But I did get my 4 to DDR1000 @ 4-5-4-13, where 4-4-4-10 was norm for 2. So not bad. Timings will need to be loosened to keep stable as this is stress on MCH, So carefull of too high FSBT too. Try to keep under 1.504v

I got old rev Ballistix and new rev ones. They're tracers too. I'm sure, ones 16X64, double sided and the other is 8X128, single sided.

Tried all the settings you've suggested and more. I'm running stock now, but I donno about 500, at 500 is somewhat stable, but nuts to 500, 503 was the last I tried and at 2hrs of orthos + general use + a screen shot at the end, it BSODd. so 500 might get me on track. But this thing posts up to 570!, I think my little E6300 is a trooper and I wanna get every clock out of it I can!

Funny thing is when I set the FSB:mem speed at anything other then auto, it fails to post. Always.

bah, I'll deal with this when I get it into a proper case :p.

[Grnfinger]

Try this for a start
You might need to adjust a few settings, vcore and NB
lmk

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 890
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0


CPU Voltage : 1.35 ( you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Griff]

I read all this with envy, i would be happy if mine just posted, looking on ebay now for some cheep Geil ddr2 to try and get a post, not confident as the other 99 ideas i tried via google all gave nada in return, This board with a 4ghz E8400 and a GX2 would make an ideal gaming rig imho...

[wreckwriter]

Try this for a start
You might need to adjust a few settings, vcore and NB
lmk

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 890
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0


CPU Voltage : 1.35 ( you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Thank you! Will give it a shot.

[MrHydes]

greetings
i have 0907 what bios do you recomend...
really usefull this thread thanks guys

[Grnfinger]

greetings
i have 0907 what bios do you recomend...
really usefull this thread thanks guys

bios 1004 is the best so far imho

[wreckwriter]

Thank you! Will give it a shot.

A couple of the settings couldn't be matched, bios version differences I guess. These:
DRAM Frequency- DDR2 890 not available, had to use 891
ROW REFRESH CYCLE TIME- 50 not available, highest was 42

Anyway, no post. Tried CPU voltages of 1.3125. 1.3750, 1.2500, 1.4375. No post on all.

[wreckwriter]

bios 1004 is the best so far imho

Heard some reports of 1004 not saving settings. I assume you haven't had this problem? Can 1004 be reverted to 0907?

[MrHydes]

bios 1004 is the best so far imho

hmm not sure if i should change because have this so stable and i'm so close of scoring 20k in 30Dmark06...

i'm going to wait first the score then i change thanks

by the way what ate the highlights int bios @1004?

[ElEctric_EyE]

BIOS 1004 kicks ass even over the Rampage BIOS. I could get up to 3.77GHz stable (470x8) on 0903. Now up to 3.97GHz (440x9) 400 strap. Rampage BIOS is RAM friendly though, I was able to get the RAM at 1253MHz at the cost of cpu speed, I could only get 3.6GHz stable. I rec BIOS 1004

EDIT: 0907, not 0903.

[Grnfinger]

A couple of the settings couldn't be matched, bios version differences I guess. These:
DRAM Frequency- DDR2 890 not available, had to use 891
ROW REFRESH CYCLE TIME- 50 not available, highest was 42

Anyway, no post. Tried CPU voltages of 1.3125. 1.3750, 1.2500, 1.4375. No post on all.

what does the lcd poster report?
det ram?
and what bios are you running?

[wreckwriter]

what does the lcd poster report?
det ram?
and what bios are you running?

It never changes from "en setup". Bios 0907.

[Nuckin_Futs]

O.K. since this was predominately a RAM sub timing tread for MAXIMUS, maybe some of you can help here or at least give commnt. These are my current settings for tested stable profile but now back on BETA BIOS v0903 and still 480x8 w/ E6750 and Ballistix Tracers as in sig, old batch
NOTE where [] is as set in CMOS and = ___ is as reported

FSB Strap to North Bridge: [Auto] (no manual of anything works, but gives me the spd I need)
PCI-E Frequency: [110]
DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1153]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual] (have to use Auto for 1:1 or it wonnt POST)
Primary Info : 5-5-5-15-3-42-6-3
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [Auto] = 42
Write Recovery time: [Auto] = 6
Read to Precharge Time: [Auto] = 3

Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Auto]
RElax Level [N/A]

I'm 1st wanting to know if they are already to tight in the sub settings as used by Auto or if not, what areas to tighten or loosen for stability and smoothness, not scores. I dont mind better performance just so long that it doesnt cost stability.

[Grnfinger]

Heard some reports of 1004 not saving settings. I assume you haven't had this problem? Can 1004 be reverted to 0907?

I have never had an issue with 1004 and it can be reverted using Asus Update or the proper version of AFUDOS

hmm not sure if i should change because have this so stable and i'm so close of scoring 20k in 30Dmark06...

i'm going to wait first the score then i change thanks

by the way what ate the highlights int bios @1004?

1004 offers a higher trfc options so 4GB users will benifit and its very 45nm friendly

[MrHydes]

I have never had an issue with 1004 and it can be reverted using Asus Update or the proper version of AFUDOS
1004 offers a higher trfc options so 4GB users will benifit and its very 45nm friendly

now it's too late 'cause i've dropped a 2Gb module

[Grnfinger]

what GPU did you run b4 the 9800GX2?

[Zucker2k]

It never changes from "en setup". Bios 0907.

What fsb are you running at?

vcore?

VNB?

[Grnfinger]

What fsb are you running at?

vcore?

VNB?

He's shooting for 4.0GHz
445x9
NB 1.49
vCore 1.35

[trt740]

Try this for a start
You might need to adjust a few settings, vcore and NB
lmk

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 890
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0


CPU Voltage : 1.35 ( you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

This chip did 4.0ghz in my P5K-e 8x500 so thats why I was asking for your current bios settings Here are my current setting at 4.2ghz

x9 multi
FSB = 468
FSB Strap = 400 Which gives me DDR2 1247
PCI-E = 110
Ram timings= 5 5-5-15
DRAM static read is Disabled
Ai Clock Twister is Strong
Trans Booster is Enabled
Boost Level is 0

NB (Set at) 1.57
Ram V's (Set at) 2.12
LLC = Enabled
DDR2 Controller Ref = DDR2 Ref




a friend gave me these and they are good for 9x463 I just wanted to get a 500 FSB was wondering if your setting could help.


I just tried you setting and they work for 4.0ghz np.

[Grnfinger]

This is running a E8400

from memory I think it was.....

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


hope it helps

[Eastcoasthandle]

If you are using g. skill ram this is a good beginners guide
here

[MrHydes]

someone can tell me what temps you have in NB, SB, FSB