GROUP BUY-MIPS Mosfet Freezer DFI Users Unite!

[NaeKuh]

Guys i got jab-tech to make a GO. So this group buy isnt dead yet.

If you want to do it let me know asap!

I will forward The contact info to the OP!

But we need a real headcount, and what we are going in for a group buy on.

[YugenM]

Try contacting vcore.dk

Good supplier of Watercool parts and they ship to North America

[NaeKuh]

Try contacting vcore.dk

Good supplier of Watercool parts and they ship to North America

uhh whats wrong with jab-tech dealing with MIPs directly?

John said he would put up a hidden link for the group buy just for us.

[Jor3lBR]

uhh whats wrong with jab-tech dealing with MIPs directly?

John said he would put up a hidden link for the group buy just for us.

The problem is MIPS is not the way to go anymore. Everybody is leaning towards Watercool.

The MIPS Mosfet Freezer (MSH149 or MCH1149) has a lid that touches both CPL's and that causes unnecessary heat into loop. There is no need to cool the CPL's.

So most of us agreed to go ahead with the Watercool SW-16 (Mosfet Block for DFI) and MIPS is not the vendor of this product.

So if Jab-Tech would like to contact Watercool about this here you go:
http://www.watercool.de/_cms/index.p...2178ec3&s_id=3

[NaeKuh]

okey so these are the blocks for the mosfet that fit the DFI LT/UT series?

As i said, if you guys have enough people to meet the minimum order for him, im sure john will get it for us.

When you say group buy i am thinkn at least 10+.

If we only have 4 or 5 people to jump on this, then i really think you should just contact a store who already has them and try to work out a discount on the bulk shipping.

Also i perfer the mips. Why because Mips is rare and its nice. Also i dont mind the extra heat because if your putting your time and effort cooling these guys, the mosfet, NB, and SB should be on its own loop anyhow. OR you can put them with the gpu's.

Lastly, i really would like a store in the US to be a MIPs vendor. Maybe if john see's enough sales, he might import more of there stuff. And i am hoping to solve the mystery of getting the illusive MIPs StrikerII southbridge cooler. This would help a lot of US customers who is desperately crying for this block.

Anyhow as i said i would love to help you guys out. But you need to meet the end on the vendor side and think of his possition. If anyone wants to try the group buy on the MIPs or other block, im still down.

However i really would prefer the MIPs.

[phelan1777]

So how exactly are we suppose to split the products though? Its not like DHL will do multiple drop points. I doubt people are going to agree on one person receiving the product and trusting that person to ship to each person

A little over a year ago, a number of us here on XS did a bulk buy of the Iwaki RD-30 and that went fine, with one person getting all the pumps then shipping to each of us.
The pumps were far more expensive then these blocks.

Don't see why it couldn't happen again for another item.

Here is the thread for reference.


I don't have a DFI or I would be interested in this as well.

[Jor3lBR]

I'm sorry Naeku but there is a little conflict of interest here. You are talking about MIPS for your Asus and this thread is about DFI and now Watercool. So really I don't think this should be discussed here. To buy MIPS in EU and get them here is easy most of the EU online stores sell them to US. But Watercool is different.

So as it stands right now is what I said in the post #18.

Mips is expensive and not good for DFI X38, X48 and P35 series.

So I will wait to see if some store in EU that already sell Watercool equipment will make an order for SW-16's I already contacted them. After that I will come back here and tell this group and see if they are still interested:
- Jor3lBR;
- Eddie;
- Sickboy;
- WoZZeR999;
- Boyu;

I apreciate if this thread could stay in topic, that is: DFI (X38, X48, P35) Mosfet Block from Watercool (Heatkiller SW-16).

[NaeKuh]

Mkai, if this is your decission, then thats fine by me.

Let me know how much that block cost in your group buy when it comes, i maybe interested in it. And might want to go into it. I have a waterblock addiction.

I think i'll be pming a few of my friends now and see if they wanna pick up some MIPs stuff now that john said he would do it for us.

Anyone who is still interested in this PM me, i'll do the follow up myself. This thread got me all excited and i cant kill it without buying something!

Also Jor, PM IFMU to get your title edited. OR edit your title if it allows you to. I forget if we have that option or not. I might make a MIPS group buy thread, and find out how many people want striker blocks or LT blocks. And i dont want to confuse them.

[phelan1777]

Also Jor, PM IFMU to get your title edited. OR edit your title if it allows you to. I forget if we have that option or not. I might make a MIPS group buy thread, and find out how many people want striker blocks or LT blocks. And i dont want to confuse them.

He should be able to, I just edited the title for one of my posts.

[Eddie3dfx]

Sorry, didn't want to threadcrap

I think I'm out on the vreg waterblock. Since I'm running a little low on watercooling funds, I ended up getting an aluminum innovatek waterblock to partially cover the top of the heatsink with a thermal pad in between.
As you can see, it's held downtight by washers, eventually something a little nicer later on.

I think it should be fine, won't be as good a waterblock directly over it, but for $10 hey no biggie. I need to make some better brackets.
I also threw on the swiftech 30, dd, aqua ram blocks, and this one.
It's smothered in watercooling I forgot my dd aqua-hardrive block and dd full cover gpu block... yes overkill extreme heh

loop one D5-DDmaze-ApogeeGT-EK 250Res-Mcr320 (blue)
Loop 2 -D5-B -DD Full cover block-Mcr220-Mcw30-DD-Aqua hardrive - Microres- Bix120 (green)
Loop 3 - Innovatek HPPS+RES - Aqua Ramblock - Aqua Ramblock - Innovatek block - Innovatek radi 220 (red)

[Jor3lBR]

Hey no problem Eddie, crazy loops you got there!

But in that picture the PWM area that needs to be cooled is underneath the black stock heatsink so you will be cooling the CPL's more then the PWM.
Give us a reply in your temps later on.

Must love the water. Just watch for leaks and you should be fine.

[Eddie3dfx]

I see what you are saying.
Do they need to be cooled as well?

[Jor3lBR]

I see what you are saying.
Do they need to be cooled as well?

No they don't, that's why DFI avoid 'pulling' the mosfets heatsink over that area too.

Praz know more then me about this, but the CPL's are made to "take heat pressure" from other chips/mosfets.

So they pretty much can get hot without interfering in the Overclock.

Praz can correct me if I'm wrong.

[NaeKuh]

Well guys i just got off with john via email. He's gonna contact mips and check to see about reseller prices. Then if you guys are still interested, i'll post the hidden link on a special preorder for the DFI Mosfet / Striker II SB blocks.

Sorry for jackin the thread one more time Jor. This will be the last post of this for MIPs from me incase people read your title and is still interested.

If you guys think theres other MIPs block which are in high demand, let me know i'll ask john to aquire prices on those too.

Also i am not making any commission on this nor will i get a discount. I will be paying the same preorder price as you guys will.

Business is business. :]

[Six]

I managed to get MIPS MCH 149 for my DFI X38 and after over a month of usage I can share my opinion about it:
- it is hard to use it with QuadCore CPU and high Vcore voltages because this waterblock also covers 2 CPLs (next to PWM) and CPLs almost burn while under load. Then PWMs become not cooled but heated by waterblock Using my previous Q6700@3,6GHz/1,45Vcore after 15 minutes of 4xStressPrime load session (priority=10), PWM temps easily reached almost 70stC... waterheated
- after changing Q67600@3,6GHz to E8500@4GHz it is muuuuch better with temps - 47stC under Orthos load

Aha, I didn't use any AS5 or A.Ceramique on PWMs - just what left of PWM heatsink, maybe thats the clue...

About the Mips block.
You should not wonder that your temps are high when you dont use the INCLUDED thermal compound. It dont conduct electricity.
Every mosfet needs a big drop because the block has no or few contact to avoid damage from the high sensitive mosfets.
The block has two feets to get the correct distance to the mosfets.

You can always cut off this part of waterblock that covers CPLs as they can easily work with high temperatures with no danger - but they should not hinder cooling PWM

If you dont want to cool the CPLs there is a simple way.
Dont put thermal compound on the CPLs like you did on the mosfets.
There is enough space to dont have contact for cooling.

People who want to cool the CPLs should put a lot of thermal compound because there is realy a big space to fill !

[Dimek]

About the Mips block.
You should not wonder that your temps are high when you dont use the INCLUDED thermal compound. It dont conduct electricity.
Every mosfet needs a big drop because the block has no or few contact to avoid damage from the high sensitive mosfets.
The block has two feets to get the correct distance to the mosfets.

If you dont want to cool the CPLs there is a simple way.
Dont put thermal compound on the CPLs like you did on the mosfets.
There is enough space to dont have contact for cooling.

People who want to cool the CPLs should put a lot of thermal compound because there is realy a big space to fill !

My MIPS MCH 149 looks like this at the bottom


I did sth like this to make good (maybe to good acording to CPLs) thermal transfer to waterblock.


BUT the most important is that high temps IMHO refer just to highly clocked Quads, DualCore CPUs make less stress for PWM/CPLs - I had quite high temps using Q6700@3,6GHz/1,45Vcore and about 20oC temperature drop after installing E8500@4GHz/1,37Vcore

MIPS MCH 149 is good waterblock and I definitely try your suggestion if I only force myself to rebuild my WC

[Six]

Dimek, the washers has to come under the mainboard.
You increase the distance to the mosfets !!!
Also the pad´s on the CPL´s are to big.
I realy suggest that you do the correct configuration
with the included thermal compound on the CPL´s and mosfets and
the washers below the mainboard.

[Jor3lBR]

Hey guys,

Finally my uncounted number of emails and hard searching work has payed off:

I just received a positive email from vcore.dk.

They will be able to order for us and send to USA. They already made the order for #5 HeatKiller SW-16 and that's for the people on the list post #1. Other good thing about them is that they will charge cheaper shipping because they use Registered Mail instead of DHL.

As soon as the items arrive in stock Jonas will email me (thank you again Jonas).

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Hi,

Yes we have MIPS also, but it is very expensive compared to Watercool Heatkiller, and finish and cooling performance is quite similar I think.
In many ways Watercool is the top watercooling brand in the world, with very good quality and performance at a fair price, and a huge selection of specialty blocks for mosfet, chipset etc. Don't know why it isn't available in the US - quite strange really...
Only thing is, Watercool is often slow in shipping new products. It can take a long time after they announce a new block, untill it is actually available.

But I will put in an order for 5 pcs to start with, and let you know as soon as we have them in stock, or have a confirmed delivery date.
The price is 191,20 DKK which is around 40 USD, with the very weak USD rate at the moment.
I will have to check on shipping, to see what is the cheapest and best. We don't normally use DHL or similar, but regular insured airmail parcel post.

Best regards,

Jonas Berg
info@vcore.dk
www.vcore.dk

[Boyu]

@Jor3lBR : glad to hear that.

[ababich]

[QUOTE=Jor3lBR;2898207]Hey guys,

Finally my uncounted number of emails and hard searching work has payed off:

I just received a positive email from vcore.dk.

They will be able to order for us and send to USA. They already made the order for #5 HeatKiller SW-16 and that's for the people on the list post #1. Other good thing about them is that they will charge cheaper shipping because they use Registered Mail instead of DHL.

As soon as the items arrive in stock Jonas will email me (thank you again Jonas).

I am interested in the pwm water black for my dfi p35 so could you please chalk me down for one of them and let me know what info you need from me. Thank you for all your leg work!

[ababich]

Also what about finding a backplate that would fit the heatkiller block?

and would a 1/2" fitting barb fit on this waterblock? If this was put on the same loop as a d-tek fusion, dd maze 4, and a mcw30, would it create a bottleneck or restriction within the loop?

[Gogeta]

Hey guys,

Finally my uncounted number of emails and hard searching work has payed off:

Woot! Anxiously awaiting their arrival. Great work, Jor3.

[YugenM]

Also what about finding a backplate that would fit the heatkiller block?

and would a 1/2" fitting barb fit on this waterblock? If this was put on the same loop as a d-tek fusion, dd maze 4, and a mcw30, would it create a bottleneck or restriction within the loop?

All Watercool blocks are G1/4 IIRC

EDIT: Except for the MICRO-SYSTEM blocks which are threaded for M5 or something. The MOSFET block however, is not.

[Eddie3dfx]

aqua computers, some innovatek, and other european brands are G1/8" barbs ;(

[Afterburner]

would a 1/2" fitting barb fit on this waterblock? If this was put on the same loop as a d-tek fusion, dd maze 4, and a mcw30, would it create a bottleneck or restriction within the loop?

This is a good question especially after a barb conversion to 1/2" has been used. Anyone