The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[jwfitt]

just wondering is your 850 a single 12v rail psu?

It's a single rail I believe with a split 4/8 pin connection. The 1200W one is indeed a double 12v rail.

850W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153043

1200W:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153054

[Skyguy]

I'm having a very weird issue with my Formula..........maybe someone can help??

Am running 2 Raptors in RAID0 with Vista on my Maximus Formula SE, and also have a single 500gb drive with Vista as well in case my RAID takes a dump.

In BIOS I set SATA Configuration to RAID, everything runs great........can boot into Windows on the Raptors and the single drive no problems at all. However, I'm planning on selling my Raptors, so I disconnected them, went into BIOS and turned off RAID in SATA Configuration and also converted them back to single drives in the RAID Utility Manager. Then I rebooted..........but it won't recognize my single drive AT ALL.

I cannot get the drive to be recognized without a RAID setup. As soon as I plug the Raptors back in (and a frickin format and OS install too) and set BIOS SATA Configuration back to RAID, everything is fine and I can boot into Windows on the both RAID and single drive no problem. But when I unplug the Raptors, and try a single drive, it won't recognize the drive nor boot.

I've tried setting the SATA Configuration to IDE (Enhanced), IDE (Compatible), even AHCI........none work for a single drive.

Any ideas????

[XtremeTiramisu]

Thanks for the tips. I will try that and see if that helps to bring my Q6600 config up to 475*8 with 5/6 divider using the same current NB Volt or lower.

No, FSB470~475+ isn't feasible. I'm preety sure this is due to the FSB wall winthin the Q6600 G0 (FSB/Strap 266 CPU). This mobo isn't too 65nm quad friendly but I'll hope for the better when I get a FSB/Strap 333 45nm Q9450/Q9550, 8.0/8.5x multi and try again.

RF Bios is still in the beta stage, maybe after some revisions to the bios I'll be able to push my FSB further. So far it's an improvment over my previous P35 P5K-Dlx config.

[Zucker2k]

I can do fsb 475 here with a q6600, so its probably your chip.

[jwfitt]

Skyguy, maybe try taking all of the drives out (except the one you want to install the OS on), setting up your BIOS for single drive and formatting and installing?

[Dumo]

RF bios more stable for 3D bench....

PCI-E @ 110, PLL @ 1.6V and vmem @ 2.2V the rest with autos

[simplyX]

But when I unplug the Raptors, and try a single drive, it won't recognize the drive nor boot.
Any ideas????

Are you saying that the BIOS Main page doesn't list the single drive if not RAID mode? It should. Or are you saying the drive isn't listed in the boot order menu?

If the later, (at least on my P5E WS Pro) there's a second menu where you must specify the single drive as bootable and then it will appear in the boot order menu. Can you check into this? Hope it helps.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just so you know, if only one HDD connected the Intel ICHxR in RAID or AHCI enabled, you will NOT see any list of drives during POST. This is noraml and has been. BIOS can only see 2 or more HDD's connected to the hub. A single is or will be there, it is just not displayed in POST.

You must however leave the Intel RAID driver installed after you converted your OS to single disc in RAID ready mode. Were you coming from a 0 back to non RAID sinle or from 1?
How did you convert your RAID to single? Windows based or DOS?

But if you cannot boot to XP even as IDE mode off Intel SATA ICHxR, then something else went wrong during conversion.

[Reg Fessenden]

Hi, i have been following this thread for some time but only just had my account validated. First of all many thanks to The Stilt for the mod in the first place. I have been running the RF bios on my MF for around 3 weeks and found it to be much more stable, i have my Q6600 at 3.6Ghz under WCooling. But recently I installed some OCZ ReaperX ( 2 X 2Gig) and have run into stability problems even at stock speeds they are the 800Mhz version but OZC Tony on their forums says that these should still run at 1066Mhz as they are the same chips as the higher speed version. I have the TRef at 55 which is the nearest to the recommended 54 that i can get (I have tried many of the bios settings posted on this thread). This seems the most stable but i still get blue screens occasionally, usually after one hour or so the computer can be running an app or at idle it doesn't seem to make any difference. I will post more info on my settings and system later when i have more time, but was wondering if anyone else was using this ram with their setup and come across similar problems? Anyway just wanted to say hello to everyone, and get my first post out of the way, Best Regards Tony.

[XtremeTiramisu]

I can do fsb 475 here with a q6600, so its probably your chip.

and it's probably also the diff cooling method we use. I'm on high end air and you're on water. But using *9 multi I could push the cpu mhz in the mid 3800s and stable, the system does suffer from instability using *8 multi and FSB470+

Can you post your BIOS settings template at 475FSB*8 multi? and the bios version, thx

Edit: Nevermind, I saw you're using a 45nm 333fsb/strap E8400 dual core cpu in your sig...this anwers my question now. Your CPU is undoubtedly behaves in a completely diff way than my Q6600 G0. First being 45nm architechture, 333fsb/strap and it's a dual core as opposed to my 65nm, 266fsb/strap and quad. Obviously my cpu will run into a fsb wall before yours. 475fsb for a 333fsb/strap cpu is nothing spectacular really if we compare the fsb increase % to a 266fsb/strap cpu at 466fsb for example. So unless a 45nm 333fsb/strap chip can push well over 500fsb and being stable, that would be considered as a great advancement. However, in that case it may be limited by the current available mobo which can handle at such a high fsb and stay stable under hours of stress tests for daily use.

[MrWizard6600]

Sorry guys, I'm sure this has already been asked.. but, 109 pages :S, thats alot of reading :S

Does this board play nice with 4 sticks of identical stuff? how about not identical stuff? I'm running 4 gigs (4X1GB however, 2 dif kits, ones 64mb X 16chips X 2sticks the other is 128mb X 8chips X 2sticks) of Crucial Ballistix 1066 and I'm very dissapointed in my results. Granted, its not it its final config (airflow isn't as good as its going to be), I cant seem to get this thing stable at 1:1 at 500FSB, which I know this ram can do. Running the strap at 400, but I'm really not sure how that works, something to do with an internal NB clock? gotta research that more...

[M-XXXX]

I have extreme problem:
Only ALL 3 DRAM led are ON, and nothing else (fans are working fine). There is no beep, no picture (I've try to change ram, moved ram to different slots,... even without ram) ANY IDEAS WELCOME

[jwfitt]

I mentioned this in an edited earlier post, but as I'm playing with my overclock settings, what are the highest temps I should be around (Cores, NB, SB) under a full Prime95 load?

Thanks!

[Nuckin_Futs]

Sorry guys, I'm sure this has already been asked.. but, 109 pages :S, thats alot of reading :S

Does this board play nice with 4 sticks of identical stuff? how about not identical stuff? I'm running 4 gigs (4X1GB however, 2 dif kits, ones 64mb X 16chips X 2sticks the other is 128mb X 8chips X 2sticks) of Crucial Ballistix 1066 and I'm very dissapointed in my results. Granted, its not it its final config (airflow isn't as good as its going to be), I cant seem to get this thing stable at 1:1 at 500FSB, which I know this ram can do. Running the strap at 400, but I'm really not sure how that works, something to do with an internal NB clock? gotta research that more...

Odd, I have the regular Ballartix and they looked liek 16 chip double sided and so are my TRacers. Anywayz, I can say the regular and Tracers mixed fine and so did the Tracers and OCZ Plats or Corsair Dominators and OCZ Plats. They all did well to 500FSB in 1:1 all 4 but needed more NB to 1.52v and FSBT to 1.488v. Keep the NB as low as can to keep the heat down cause 4 sticks taxes any mobo and especially on OC. But I did get my 4 to DDR1000 @ 4-5-4-13, where 4-4-4-10 was norm for 2. So not bad. Timings will need to be loosened to keep stable as this is stress on MCH, So carefull of too high FSBT too. Try to keep under 1.504v

I have extreme problem:
Only ALL 3 DRAM led are ON, and nothing else (fans are working fine). There is no beep, no picture (I've try to change ram, moved ram to different slots,... even without ram) ANY IDEAS WELCOME

Sounds like RAM issue, but not certain. I'd look for different RAM and test 1 slot at a time. You will need at least 1 to boot. Boot only w/ CPU RAM and VGA, nothing else for starters. Pull PSU pwr & battery + tap PWR button every few seconds for over 1 min.

I mentioned this in an edited earlier post, but as I'm playing with my overclock settings, what are the highest temps I should be around (Cores, NB, SB) under a full Prime95 load?

Thanks!

In over over 6 months of use, I found 55c to be so so for stability for NB but can get iffy up to 60c and so 51c is comfort zone for mine. SB, 36c - 41c is cool but can hit 44c-49c in the summer heat. I'd try to keep the SB under 48c max for SATA RAID stability.

[Griff]

Just got my 1.03 board fitted and plumbed in, hit the power button to bleed the loops up away it goes, hold power button in to stop so i can top up t-lines and now nothing, reset cmos via rear switch, moved ram to various slots and nada, when i go for a power on the little leds on the mobo for the ram, nb & sb all flicker on for a nano second then nothing, Lcd is showing cpu init.. Just removed the battery and off to do a little shpping for a few hours, hope i havent killed it

Any suggestions? cpu is an E8400, psu corsair 650 and 2 gig of Tracers, i have also tried both 4 & 8 pin eatx power..

Cheers Griff

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just got my 1.03 board fitted and plumbed in, hit the power button to bleed the loops up away it goes, hold power button in to stop so i can top up t-lines and now nothing, reset cmos via rear switch, moved ram to various slots and nada, when i go for a power on the little leds on the mobo for the ram, nb & sb all flicker on for a nano second then nothing, Lcd is showing cpu init.. Just removed the battery and off to do a little shpping for a few hours, hope i havent killed it

Any suggestions? cpu is an E8400, psu corsair 650 and 2 gig of Tracers, i have also tried both 4 & 8 pin eatx power..

Cheers Griff

What BIOS version and BIOS history usage? What CPU? Try some of the remedies I and others mention just a day ago.

[Griff]

What BIOS version and BIOS history usage? What CPU? Try some of the remedies I and others mention just a day ago.

Never got into the bios, it ran for about 10 seconds whilst i was trying to fill the loops then nothing, fault finding with duel external loops is not a lot of fun Loops dismantled and its now sat on the bed, have mofset back plates on, they are insulated but its now nagging at me that i may have a short..

[Griff]

Trying to get it to run with a E6600 then update bios for One that agrees with E8400, Reading identical problem on Asus forums, the guy ended up going RMA in the end..

[Grnfinger]

and it's probably also the diff cooling method we use. I'm on high end air and you're on water. But using *9 multi I could push the cpu mhz in the mid 3800s and stable, the system does suffer from instability using *8 multi and FSB470+

Can you post your BIOS settings template at 475FSB*8 multi? and the bios version, thx

Edit: Nevermind, I saw you're using a 45nm 333fsb/strap E8400 dual core cpu in your sig...this anwers my question now. Your CPU is undoubtedly behaves in a completely diff way than my Q6600 G0. First being 45nm architechture, 333fsb/strap and it's a dual core as opposed to my 65nm, 266fsb/strap and quad. Obviously my cpu will run into a fsb wall before yours. 475fsb for a 333fsb/strap cpu is nothing spectacular really if we compare the fsb increase % to a 266fsb/strap cpu at 466fsb for example. So unless a 45nm 333fsb/strap chip can push well over 500fsb and being stable, that would be considered as a great advancement. However, in that case it may be limited by the current available mobo which can handle at such a high fsb and stay stable under hours of stress tests for daily use.

Zucker2k used to do 500fsb on his quad not 45nm chip.

[golfjam]

Does anybody know a "fix" to run at 333 strap? 400 is rock solid but if I change it and run Prime my system will reboot(sometimes after 10 min or 3 hrs) and hang on "DET RAM".

[Grnfinger]

Does anybody know a "fix" to run at 333 strap? 400 is rock solid but if I change it and run Prime my system will reboot(sometimes after 10 min or 3 hrs) and hang on "DET RAM".

adjust your settings, I only use the 333 strap and run my ram rock solid at 1175MHz.

Post your current settings and we can see where adjustments need to be made

[wreckwriter]

4.0GHz is walk in the park.
Post your bios settings and we can see what needs to be adjusted

Thanks much! I'll get them up today.

[Zucker2k]

and it's probably also the diff cooling method we use. I'm on high end air and you're on water. But using *9 multi I could push the cpu mhz in the mid 3800s and stable, the system does suffer from instability using *8 multi and FSB470+

Can you post your BIOS settings template at 475FSB*8 multi? and the bios version, thx

Edit: Nevermind, I saw you're using a 45nm 333fsb/strap E8400 dual core cpu in your sig...this anwers my question now. Your CPU is undoubtedly behaves in a completely diff way than my Q6600 G0. First being 45nm architechture, 333fsb/strap and it's a dual core as opposed to my 65nm, 266fsb/strap and quad. Obviously my cpu will run into a fsb wall before yours. 475fsb for a 333fsb/strap cpu is nothing spectacular really if we compare the fsb increase % to a 266fsb/strap cpu at 466fsb for example. So unless a 45nm 333fsb/strap chip can push well over 500fsb and being stable, that would be considered as a great advancement. However, in that case it may be limited by the current available mobo which can handle at such a high fsb and stay stable under hours of stress tests for daily use.

I can do fsb 475 here with a q6600, so its probably your chip.

I will quote myself again. Anyway, I'm on MF bios 1004; yes, it makes a huge difference for my quad in terms of stability.

[wilson]

I have extreme problem:
Only ALL 3 DRAM led are ON, and nothing else (fans are working fine). There is no beep, no picture (I've try to change ram, moved ram to different slots,... even without ram) ANY IDEAS WELCOME

I had a problem like that on my maximus formula and my rampage formula and the only way to get it to work was to remove everything but the cpu for it to boot. Then i spent hours putting stuff in to see if it was a faulty ram ,g card ,sound card etc. And i found nothing really other that it would just do it at random times. I have rma`d both mobo`s now and am using a DFI mobo with all the same parts and have no cold boot problems at all. I think its just a faulty batch of chips that got out as it happens to some not all and i got both my MF and RF from the same pc shop.

[BigKriss]

Hi, i have been following this thread for some time but only just had my account validated. First of all many thanks to The Stilt for the mod in the first place. I have been running the RF bios on my MF for around 3 weeks and found it to be much more stable, i have my Q6600 at 3.6Ghz under WCooling. But recently I installed some OCZ ReaperX ( 2 X 2Gig) and have run into stability problems even at stock speeds they are the 800Mhz version but OZC Tony on their forums says that these should still run at 1066Mhz as they are the same chips as the higher speed version. I have the TRef at 55 which is the nearest to the recommended 54 that i can get (I have tried many of the bios settings posted on this thread). This seems the most stable but i still get blue screens occasionally, usually after one hour or so the computer can be running an app or at idle it doesn't seem to make any difference. I will post more info on my settings and system later when i have more time, but was wondering if anyone else was using this ram with their setup and come across similar problems? Anyway just wanted to say hello to everyone, and get my first post out of the way, Best Regards Tony.

A big welcome Tony..Seems the chaps are a bit pre occupied to say hello...