GROUP BUY-MIPS Mosfet Freezer DFI Users Unite!

[Jor3lBR]

UPDATE: ****ORDERED 8 SW-16 FROM VCORE.DK****

RECEIPT AND TRACKING NUMBER: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...3&postcount=91

Price: US$ 50,00 + Shipping will be less then US$ 25 for the full purchase ($5 each buyer).
The Mips would cost us a overwhelming US$75 +US$40 shipping!


Well I came across the same problem as many DFI P35, X38 and X48 users.
The DHL shipping from Germany to USA is too expensive for such a little product.
So how about we all unite here in US and make a group buy and divide the shipping costs?
Not many but a max of 5 users per order so it will be easier to keep track. Inputs are welcome.

The full price is $75 per MCH1149/MCH149 (Mosfet Freezer) so we will try to get a deal on that and split the shipping. We decided to get the Watercool HeatKiller SW-16 (fully compatible with X38, X48 and P35) because it costs around $46 + shipping and it's proven to be more effective then the Mips because it doesn't touch the CPL's.

MOST VOTED IS WATERCOOL HEATKILLER SW-16 Please see if you guys are still interested in getting that one instead of MIPS. I'm still in!

**** PARCIAL LIST FOR Watercool HK SW-16****
::::1st Batch List::::
- Jor3lBR; **PAYMENT RECEIVED**
- Sickboy; **PAYMENT RECEIVED**
- WoZZeR999; **PAYMENT RECEIVED**
- Boyu; **PAYMENT RECEIVED**
- Ababich; **PAYMENT RECEIVED**
- Systemviper;**PENDING PAYMENT**
- mrLader; **PAYMENT RECEIVED**
- t_ski; **PAYMENT RECEIVED**

::::Waiting List::::
- NeoGeo;
- MoreGooder;

If they ship more then 5 this list will also receive blocks at the same time as batch one. Also if anyone on the first list pull out it will be replaced buy someone here.

[Eddie3dfx]

I would be up for it depending on the price though.

[Jor3lBR]

Well as for pricing we have this from MIPS so far

DFI LANparty P35 / X38 Mosfet Freezer - US$67

And the shipping can be divided by the number of buyers, if we get 5 different buyers it would cost US$6 for each one of us.

[sickboy8820]

I'd def. be interested bro! That's the only thing that's not w/c on my P35 LanParty MOBO! Maybe e-mail them to see if they can knock a buck or two off too...

So yeah I'd be down for 1XMIPS for the DFI P35...

U can e-mail @ overclocked8820@optonline.net if needs be..

BRY

[Jor3lBR]

I would be up for it depending on the price though.

I'd def. be interested bro! That's the only thing that's not w/c on my P35 LanParty MOBO! Maybe e-mail them to see if they can knock a buck or two off too...

So yeah I'd be down for 1XMIPS for the DFI P35...

U can e-mail @ overclocked8820@optonline.net if needs be..

BRY

I will edit 1st post and create a list of the interested forumembers so far.

As soon as we get at least 5 people in I will send an email to MIPS owner and see what type of discounts he can offer, I will send CC to everyone that gives me their email in pvt so you can see our conversations, the last thing I want is to someone to get the ideia I'm in this for extra $2 bucks

[Gogeta]

Jor3|BR, YGPM

[WoZZeR999]

I'd be in, what about the shipping from what I assume would be you. Is that $6 with 5 people, with or without the shipping from the person in the US who orders?

[Dimek]

I managed to get MIPS MCH 149 for my DFI X38 and after over a month of usage I can share my opinion about it:
- it is hard to use it with QuadCore CPU and high Vcore voltages because this waterblock also covers 2 CPLs (next to PWM) and CPLs almost burn while under load. Then PWMs become not cooled but heated by waterblock Using my previous Q6700@3,6GHz/1,45Vcore after 15 minutes of 4xStressPrime load session (priority=10), PWM temps easily reached almost 70stC... waterheated
- after changing Q67600@3,6GHz to E8500@4GHz it is muuuuch better with temps - 47stC under Orthos load

Aha, I didn't use any AS5 or A.Ceramique on PWMs - just what left of PWM heatsink, maybe thats the clue...

You can always cut off this part of waterblock that covers CPLs as they can easily work with high temperatures with no danger - but they should not hinder cooling PWM

[Jor3lBR]

I managed to get MIPS MCH 149 for my DFI X38 and after over a month of usage I can share my opinion about it:
- it is hard to use it with QuadCore CPU and high Vcore voltages because this waterblock also covers 2 CPLs (next to PWM) and CPLs almost burn while under load. Then PWMs become not cooled but heated by waterblock Using my previous Q6700@3,6GHz/1,45Vcore after 15 minutes of 4xStressPrime load session (priority=10), PWM temps easily reached almost 70stC... waterheated
- after changing Q67600@3,6GHz to E8500@4GHz it is muuuuch better with temps - 47stC under Orthos load

Aha, I didn't use any AS5 or A.Ceramique on PWMs - just what left of PWM heatsink, maybe thats the clue...

You can always cut off this part of waterblock that covers CPLs as they can easily work with high temperatures with no danger - but they should not hinder cooling PWM

Thanks for sharing you thoughts on that Dimek.

How about we purchase the HeatKiller SW-16 from Watercool instead; costs almost half of the price of the Mips and seams more efficient taking Dimek's word:


It's compatible with our boards and does not have that extra surface touching the very heated CPL's.

What do you guys think?

[Dimek]

Thanks for sharing you thoughts on that Dimek.

Glad to be helpful

How about we purchase the HeatKiller SW-16 from Watercool instead; costs almost half of the price of the Mips and seams more efficient taking Dimek's word:


It's compatible with our boards and does not have that extra surface touching the very heated CPL's.

What do you guys think?

I would take it instead of MIPS MCH 149 - I don't know how it looks inside, but it has no "CPL-part", thank God
Unfortunately I had only one choice when I was up to buy PWM waterbloc... MIPS was the only choice

[Jor3lBR]

First off I think thats the wrong attitude. I'm not doing this for any personal gain, on the contrary this only gives me work to do.

I will indeed take every precaution to make this a legal bond. We will use Paypal and I will create an ORDER # so the 5 guys on the list will send the money as a payment "for goods" with the description of "Group Purchase of Watercool HK SW16 Mosfet Block" and add this thread link on foot notes.

I'm a US Paypal Verified member (with real address and contact name) and eBay member with all 280+ positive feedback (100%).

I will report every email sent to Watercool, Invoice and tracking number here in this thread.

And just for you to know what you are saying is a CRIME that I would be doing! Taking money for something without the correspondent return is same as walking in a store and reach out for money on the register. Absurd thought as I have a wife, a job and a house to look after.

I wont do this for 100 people, I will only close the small group of 5 or 8 and thats it after that I'm done.

Everyone who want to go along with this deal please contact me in pvt and I will send my full contact information, including my ebay user name and ID in other respectable forums (DFI, DIY-street etc).

And again I take things very seriously and I'm not asking anyone to do this. I will sacrifice my time and money to do this and won't charge anything for it. As soon as shipping arrive I will send each one their blocks in USPS Priority Mail and charge EXACTLY what they charge me.

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DECISION:

As for the block seams like the $46 HK SW-16 is our best choice. I am waiting on an answer from Watercool regarding the shipping to US.

Who still wants to go for that block and order?

Actually i have to agree with lazy.

Jor3lBR your not exactly a very well known person on this forum. If you can have a person who is respected that will offer there services i would also go in on this.

And isnt BR a shorten form of Brazil?

So how exactly are we suppose to split the products though? Its not like DHL will do multiple drop points. I doubt people are going to agree on one person receiving the product and trusting that person to ship to each person

[Six]

I managed to get MIPS MCH 149 for my DFI X38 and after over a month of usage I can share my opinion about it:
- it is hard to use it with QuadCore CPU and high Vcore voltages because this waterblock also covers 2 CPLs (next to PWM) and CPLs almost burn while under load. Then PWMs become not cooled but heated by waterblock Using my previous Q6700@3,6GHz/1,45Vcore after 15 minutes of 4xStressPrime load session (priority=10), PWM temps easily reached almost 70stC... waterheated
- after changing Q67600@3,6GHz to E8500@4GHz it is muuuuch better with temps - 47stC under Orthos load

Aha, I didn't use any AS5 or A.Ceramique on PWMs - just what left of PWM heatsink, maybe thats the clue...

About the Mips block.
You should not wonder that your temps are high when you dont use the INCLUDED thermal compound. It dont conduct electricity.
Every mosfet needs a big drop because the block has no or few contact to avoid damage from the high sensitive mosfets.
The block has two feets to get the correct distance to the mosfets.

You can always cut off this part of waterblock that covers CPLs as they can easily work with high temperatures with no danger - but they should not hinder cooling PWM

If you dont want to cool the CPLs there is a simple way.
Dont put thermal compound on the CPLs like you did on the mosfets.
There is enough space to dont have contact for cooling.

People who want to cool the CPLs should put a lot of thermal compound because there is realy a big space to fill !

[Dimek]

About the Mips block.
You should not wonder that your temps are high when you dont use the INCLUDED thermal compound. It dont conduct electricity.
Every mosfet needs a big drop because the block has no or few contact to avoid damage from the high sensitive mosfets.
The block has two feets to get the correct distance to the mosfets.

If you dont want to cool the CPLs there is a simple way.
Dont put thermal compound on the CPLs like you did on the mosfets.
There is enough space to dont have contact for cooling.

People who want to cool the CPLs should put a lot of thermal compound because there is realy a big space to fill !

My MIPS MCH 149 looks like this at the bottom


I did sth like this to make good (maybe to good acording to CPLs) thermal transfer to waterblock.


BUT the most important is that high temps IMHO refer just to highly clocked Quads, DualCore CPUs make less stress for PWM/CPLs - I had quite high temps using Q6700@3,6GHz/1,45Vcore and about 20oC temperature drop after installing E8500@4GHz/1,37Vcore

MIPS MCH 149 is good waterblock and I definitely try your suggestion if I only force myself to rebuild my WC

[clone38]

Got mine this moring

Packed well.











Northbridge.



Southbridge



Mosfet even supplyed free paste

[lazy]

So how exactly are we suppose to split the products though? Its not like DHL will do multiple drop points. I doubt people are going to agree on one person receiving the product and trusting that person to ship to each person

[Boyu]

@Jor3lBR
i'm in if it is for HeatKiller SW-16, MIPS it's too expensive.can you count me in??, it's so expensive if using direct shipment using DHL from germany for singgle item.
You can ship it to me using USPS First-Class Mail® International,i'll pay for it.
Thx

[Eddie3dfx]

So how exactly are we suppose to split the products though? Its not like DHL will do multiple drop points. I doubt people are going to agree on one person receiving the product and trusting that person to ship to each person

I don't mind shipping it and I'm sure nor do others. I trust the guys in here.
Hmm, that other waterblock looks awesome.
So its around $30-40? I think $67 is too much or the mips one.
I am shocked shipping is so much money. I just shipped 2 7800 waterblocks packaged together (2-3lbs) from chicago to australia for $24

I am running 3 loops and my 2 loops copper and the 3rd loop is all aluminum and at the moment it's just using 2 aluminum ramblocks, so I picked this up and will make a little aluminum or copper sink to mount this on over the mosfets.
$10, but not recommended for anyone who is using a copper radiator.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20...or_501110.html

Or you can pick the copper alphacool version from moddersmart for $15
http://www.moddersmart.com/index.php...oduct_id=29994

Where can I pickup a thin piece of copper?

I could cut this koolance one down from 107mm to 83mm and drill a couple holes.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23423

[NaeKuh]

So how exactly are we suppose to split the products though? Its not like DHL will do multiple drop points. I doubt people are going to agree on one person receiving the product and trusting that person to ship to each person

Actually i have to agree with lazy.

Jor3lBR your not exactly a very well known person on this forum. If you can have a person who is respected that will offer there services i would also go in on this.

And isnt BR a shorten form of Brazil?

[phelan1777]

So how exactly are we suppose to split the products though? Its not like DHL will do multiple drop points. I doubt people are going to agree on one person receiving the product and trusting that person to ship to each person

A little over a year ago, a number of us here on XS did a bulk buy of the Iwaki RD-30 and that went fine, with one person getting all the pumps then shipping to each of us.
The pumps were far more expensive then these blocks.

Don't see why it couldn't happen again for another item.

Here is the thread for reference.


I don't have a DFI or I would be interested in this as well.

[Jor3lBR]

I'm sorry Naeku but there is a little conflict of interest here. You are talking about MIPS for your Asus and this thread is about DFI and now Watercool. So really I don't think this should be discussed here. To buy MIPS in EU and get them here is easy most of the EU online stores sell them to US. But Watercool is different.

So as it stands right now is what I said in the post #18.

Mips is expensive and not good for DFI X38, X48 and P35 series.

So I will wait to see if some store in EU that already sell Watercool equipment will make an order for SW-16's I already contacted them. After that I will come back here and tell this group and see if they are still interested:
- Jor3lBR;
- Eddie;
- Sickboy;
- WoZZeR999;
- Boyu;

I apreciate if this thread could stay in topic, that is: DFI (X38, X48, P35) Mosfet Block from Watercool (Heatkiller SW-16).

[headala]

I'm not interested, but I applaud you for helping everyone out and organizing this.

[Jor3lBR]

Well guys unfortunately Watercool is not shipping to USA and does not accept Paypal.

Here's the email I received from them:
"Hello,

We ship the coolers only in EU, and we dont accept paypal.

Mit Besten Grüßen

Rico Weber

Watercool e.K.
Warendorfer Strasse 20
D-17192 Waren
TEL +49 03991 187601
FAX +49 03991 187602"

So as for now I will concentrate my efforts to contact UK stores that sell Watercool stuff to add the SW-16 to their stock and then we can purchase.

I will update the thread as soon as I get another response.

[NaeKuh]

Jor3 i really applaud your effort, dont take it the wrong way. Im just worried because of the low post count and no display of heatware. I really want to help you and the forum in this so i may have a compromise and also an offer to make everyone happy.

How many of you guys are really interested in this and be honest?

Maybe if enough of us together do a prepay and a front preorder, a vendor might be willing to do the transaction with us. I have some connections with a few vendors on a personal level that might be willing to help us. This is all dependant on head count and really serious participants.

if this is the case Post your headcount here. Jor3 is this acceptable with you? All i would require is your contact at MIPS.

[Jor3lBR]

Jor3 i really applaud your effort, dont take it the wrong way. Im just worried because of the low post count and no display of heatware. I really want to help you and the forum in this so i may have a compromise and also an offer to make everyone happy.

Well I'm a 280+ all positive 100% feedback history on eBay and member since 2003... I think that count for something.

I opened this thread because I saw many others on the same situation as I.

And please read the thread carefully we won't get MIPS equipment again. It's too expensive and less effective then Watercool HK SW-16.

So if you wanna get help for us try to find someone in UK that can order this directly from Watercool in Germany and then send it to US because they (Watercool) won't sell them to US nor accept Paypal.

EDIT: Regarding you help offer I'm up for it but that's only if they can buy the Watercool stuff for DFI, I know they sell the complete kit for our board just like MIPS (NB, SB, CPU and Mosfet blocks), like this:

[NaeKuh]

LOL... Okey i already forwarded the thread to john,

Waiting his response. Maybe MIP's will deal with a vendor.

Okey wait you want me to ask him about the watercool products? I was more thinkn along the line of MIPS.

Reason why i think the vendor will help us is this:

1. First order he's not dumping too much money on stock since most of it is a preorder. Means less cost for him. We basically both win in this situation.

2. Having mips items, i can also ask john to stock up on the StrikerII Mips stuff. I know people on the forum have been whinning since its release on it.

3. We need a MIPS dealer in the US. Sorry NCIX, you guys only have 1 block from them so that doesnt count. :[

If he says he'll offer i'll introduce you to him and you guys can work out the contact information though email.


We still have petra's and ppc's to ask as well. :T