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    So lets see, if we take an average of pointblanks, call it 125w @ -90C, we can see that Mytek's does -12C better, and draws a bit more then half the energy. Autocascade really is quote amazing isn't it. Whats the max load you can hold though blank? And I'm surprised you don't have much better results coming out of that cascade.


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    Yep, about 1/2 the energy. I think this gets even better when designing for colder temperatures (-130C to -150C).

    I should mention that there was a change in the final captube sizing I used on the AC-2 unit. I made a last minute decision, and increased the flows on the last 3 captubes (decreased length). Here is a chart with what I used:
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    Michael St. Pierre

    • Worked 15 years for Polycold Systems
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    • Manufacture Heat Load Controllers
    • Also do contract service work on Polycold units

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    And here is the heat exchanger info, as well as specs on the 115V LG QA090C rotary compressor I used (notice the rated load current of 5.2 Amps --- I still have some breathing room):

    Edit: I gave an average spec on the length of the HXC's. In reality AUX and Cascade #1 were slightly longer, and Cascade #2 and #3 were slightly shorter. Increasing the length of all the heat exchangers would probably yield even better loaded temperatures. Keep in mind that the pressure drop, which is not beneficial, will also increase with added length.
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    Last edited by mytekcontrols; 04-01-2008 at 05:33 AM.
    Michael St. Pierre

    • Worked 15 years for Polycold Systems
    • Now Self-Employed
    • Manufacture Heat Load Controllers
    • Also do contract service work on Polycold units

    Side note: I usually don't respond to PM's or emails regarding the projects that I post in the forums. I feel it's much more fair to all, to answer questions within the forum topics themselves.

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