Intel Details Nehalem uArch Improvements - 256KB L2, 8MB L3 Confirmed

[Donnie27]

when did I say a 2.4ghz Nehalem will be $1000? I was implying that, assuming overclocking flexibility is gone in the mainstream version, a Nehalem with comparable performance to a oveclocked $300 Penryn (say 3.6ghz) will be much more expensive since you will have to buy the actual ghz you are shooting for.

I should have said $1000 for example, my bad. Either way, 2.4GHz Nehalem will not cost much more the 2.4GHz Penryn. Just because AMD couldn't get much speed out of Phenom, doesn't mean Intel will be stuck there (NOT saying you said that either). I expect Nehalem to start at higher speeds than Kentsfield or Penryn Quads. You'll not need to buy as much GHz though and that's my point. 2.4GHz Nehalem might hang with a 3 to 3.2GHz Penryn. So that's a free 600 to 800MHz overclock without lifting a finger.

I'd be disappointed if there wasn't a performance increase when moving to Nehalem. Then not being able to overclock becomes more of a negative. Again, like Phenom for example If Nehalem were like AMD's latest, then I'd agree with you.

For mixed up and confused folks, here's what I'm talking about.

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-45...hitecture.html

POSTER: computer news || AMD TALK ABOUT NEHALEM ARCHITECTURE
DATE:2008-03-19

Randy Allen , AMD Vice President , which heads the company subdivision for servers and work stations production : stated that Intel overtakes AMD in technical solutions sphere , proposing update in nehalem architecture . Barcelona processors already have the divided cache in the third level, and the integrated memory controller since in 2003. The high-speed system bus QPI is analogous to hyperTransport 3.0 witch AMD company uses since 2006. As asserts Randy Allen, in this sense intel do not proposes any update.

The processors shanghai will be released on 45 nm technology, and in 2009 they can find eight cores. The built-in memory controller with DDR- 3 support will be also added .

AMD reproach Intel (idea was first from AMD) the integration of graphic core in processor, in this case the corresponding products from Intel (Havendale) can appear earlier than AMD ( hybrid processors swift ) . In one world a war witch never end....

As we see from posts like KT's, many believe every lie this Spin Meister tells!
Let's see, QPI just like HTT comes from RAMBUS and EV6 from Alpha, not AMD. Ask AMD how much they pay RAMBUS?
Intel proposes faster processors=P
With QPI, AMD's Multi-socket Memory Bandwidth advantage disappears.
Intel has DDR3 now.
Intel is already at 45nm.
L3, they're kidding, right?
So has Randy forgotten Timna?