The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[andyr(uk)]

im at 450x9

cpu ppl is 1.61 and nb is 1.51

thanks , thats some chip you got there

[saaya]

wow, nice! thanks a lot!

[Mic]

Quick question for you guys:

How hot is the NB running with the stock heatsink? I am getting a Rampage and just wanna know if I need to invest in a NB waterblock, or if I can simply direct some of the airflow from the case fan over the heatsink, and perhaps change the thermal tape to a proper TIM.

I'd love some voltage / temp numbers with 4 RAM sticks especially.

With 2 small fans mouted on the cooling fans my NB temp is 47 C degrees with 1.55V, raising that voltage to 1.6 I get around 50 degrees. SB is around 40 degrees. A little to hot I think so gonna add some water cooling tomorrow.

[Zucker2k]

Okay, this is getting interesting...

[wilson]

Ok guys should i buy the formula for £165 or wait for the rampage thats £200 as my pc shop has the formula in stock but not the rampage. Im askin this as they are both the same board aint they apart from the bios being better than the formula???

[wilson]

Ok now stupid question but is the formula and rampage the same ??? Like is the x48 just a overclocked x38??? and is it worth me buying a formula for £165 or waiting for a rampage and paying £200 for it when its in stock.
Cheers Paul

[ZenEffect]

Okay, this is getting interesting...

those are some very impressive results! 6 more fsb makes a world of difference!

@ wilson
i wouldnt even go so far as to say the x48 is a overclocked x38...
from what i understand there is no real difference between the 2 except the x48 has the 1600mhz fsb stamp of approval, but as you can see here we are taking the x38 well beyond 1600mhz

[Grendel66]

Heh, that was easy. Here's AFUDOS 2.36ES.

[ZenEffect]

Heh, that was easy. Here's AFUDOS 2.36ES.

yup confirmed 2.36ES, though its a bit late now...
looks like we are going to have most versions of afudos in es by the time the rampage gets released!

good find

[andyr(uk)]

Ok now stupid question but is the formula and rampage the same ??? Like is the x48 just a overclocked x38??? and is it worth me buying a formula for £165 or waiting for a rampage and paying £200 for it when its in stock.
Cheers Paul

Its the same board , the diffence is the bios which can be flashed over to the same as the rampage and the x48 is a speed binned x38

the rampage is expected to be in stock at the end of March, if its worth the extra depends on if you think the speed binned chip is worth the extra 40-50 quid i suppose

[wilson]

Ok so i could just flash the bios over and have a rampage ? is the speed binned just something in the bios and the chipset is just the same.
Sry for the dumb question but id just rather buy the formula and flash the bios over and sve the cash if its that simple.
Cheers Paul

[ZenEffect]

Ok so i could just flash the bios over and have a rampage ? is the speed binned just something in the bios and the chipset is just the same.
Sry for the dumb question but id just rather buy the formula and flash the bios over and sve the cash if its that simple.
Cheers Paul

yes it is as easy as just flashing over the bios. the speed binned thing is the northbridge, and is pretty much a fancy seal of approval nothing more. from experience the x38 runs past 1600fsb with ease

[wilson]

Roger that!!
Looks like it`s a formula with the rampage bios mod .
Jus one last thing , does it run ok with the e8400.

[ZenEffect]

Roger that!!
Looks like it`s a formula with the rampage bios mod .
Jus one last thing , does it run ok with the e8400.

look @ zucker's and grnfinger's posts. apparently, they are having excellent results

[ZenEffect]

What do you use to measure the temp of the GPU?

gpu-z click the sensors tab

[ericab]

@wilson,

the only difference is the physical 'build' 'QUALITY' of the specific chip.

think of it....... as gold (x48) vs silver (x38)

[Celoth]

Thanks those who posted temp numbers.

How is the Asus warranty policy when it comes to changing the chipset cooling? Will it void it? If it doesn't I'd get an actual Rampage, but if it does void it, there's really little point in not getting a maximus instead and flashing it to a rampage. Assuming the NB is the same quality of course.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Man, I just started reading through this post this morning, and got to about page 5 and said to myself, I'm doin' it tonight when I get home. Went smooth as silk... Just wanted to post and say my Thanks especially to The Stilt and ZenEffect for their hard work. Much appreciated guys, simple thanks doesn't go far enough to express how happy I am as an owner of a Rampage! I hope "those guys" don't lock future Rampage BIOS's from us. Sorta nice of them to let us get away with it so far eh? ASUS has re-earned my loyalty. BTW, only snag I ran into was 0219 did not rec. my USB keyboard (minor). Otherwise, it booted right into Vista x64. Goin to do more testing now... Thanks again M8's!!!

[ZenEffect]

Man, I just started reading through this post this morning, and got to about page 5 and said to myself, I'm doin' it tonight when I get home. Went smooth as silk... Just wanted to post and say my Thanks especially to The Stilt and ZenEffect for their hard work. Much appreciated guys, simple thanks doesn't go far enough to express how happy I am as an owner of a Rampage! I hope "those guys" don't lock future Rampage BIOS's from us. Sorta nice of them to let us get away with it so far eh? ASUS has re-earned my loyalty. BTW, only snag I ran into was 0219 did not rec. my USB keyboard (minor). Otherwise, it booted right into Vista x64. Goin to do more testing now... Thanks again M8's!!!

i think at this point the only way to lock out future bios' will be to completely redesign the motherboard. i may be wrong but i dont think there is much asus can do on the software side to lock us out.

[kup]

I've narrowed down the multiplier bug to loading a saved profile and the multiplier not changing when you save and reboot.

If the multi is 9x and you load a profile with for example, 8x, if you save a reboot it stays stuck at 9x and when you boot it is at 9x in the bios. Set it to 8x manually now and then save and reboot and it should be fine. This is the only quirk I've found so far...

[kup]

i think at this point the only way to lock out future bios' will be to completely redesign the motherboard. i may be wrong but i dont think there is much asus can do on the software side to lock us out.

Correct. We've now got the flash tools to flash ANY bios to these boards, even if it had yet another ROMID or was even a completely incompatible bios, we could still force it to flash to our boards.

[Newms118]

ok i have a weird problem. just trying to increase vcore because i cant get 3.1 ghz stable (get prime95 BSOD) on a q6600. i had everything stock on the 0907 bios except i had 9x345 FSB and DRAM voltage at 2.12. cpuz showed my vcore (which was on auto) at around 1.334 idle and 1.304 under load. i tried increase the vcore to 1.34 and it lowered the vcore to 1.28!. i had to set the vcore at 1.400 to get it to apply 1.34 voltage, any idea what could be wrong? do i need to adjust the NB or vFSB voltages? thanks

[ZenEffect]

ok i have a weird problem. just trying to increase vcore because i cant get 3.1 ghz stable (get prime95 BSOD) on a q6600. i had everything stock on the 0907 bios except i had 9x345 FSB and DRAM voltage at 2.12. cpuz showed my vcore (which was on auto) at around 1.334 idle and 1.304 under load. i tried increase the vcore to 1.34 and it lowered the vcore to 1.28!. i had to set the vcore at 1.400 to get it to apply 1.34 voltage, any idea what could be wrong? do i need to adjust the NB or vFSB voltages? thanks

vdroop is normal. make sure you have loadline calibration enabled and it shouldnt be as bad.

[Grnfinger]

squeezed alittle bit more for 24/7 use

[ZenEffect]

Correct. We've now got the flash tools to flash ANY bios to these boards, even if it had yet another ROMID or was even a completely incompatible bios, we could still force it to flash to our boards.

i deleted the post, but the romid is easy enough to change anyways