**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Volkswagen]

so beta bios 16.09 helps with vdroop? Will it help my Q6600 ? 1.5V in bios 1.42V load not fun at all

[Crazy Chuckster]

Volkswagen, I believe that the newest beta bios will help with your vdroop on your quad. The newest bios out is 16.10 1 or 2 pages back

[dstedman]

I was referring to the voltage bug where the CPU fan voltage gets stuck at 100% regardless of the uGuru settings, after which you have to shut the computer down, shut off the power supply for a few seconds, and reboot to get it to be controlled by uGuru again.

Detailed here:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...voltage+100%25

[Ace-a-Rue]

I was referring to the voltage bug where the CPU fan voltage gets stuck at 100% regardless of the uGuru settings, after which you have to shut the computer down, shut off the power supply for a few seconds, and reboot to get it to be controlled by uGuru again.

Detailed here:

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread...voltage+100%25

are you using a 4 pin fan like is on intel fans?...if it is a 3 pin like the most of us, that is probably the cause of the problem.

[BenSanford]

make sure you have "Quick Power On Self Test" ENABLED...that feature is located in "Advanced BIOS Features"...it sounds like your setup is testing all your 8 gig's of memory which will take time.

also, what are your set memory timings...SPD will not work with 8 gig's of memory especially if one stick is inferior in quality and performance...that is all it takes to upset the apple cart.

The pause in the boot sequence is not due to the test for the lengthly memory self test. The quick test is enabled. I turned it off one time and that takes forever - much longer than the ~1-2 minute pause that I get now.

Problem with the new BIOS B 10.10 was that after clearing everything, it tries to come back up with 1.8 volts to memory and SPD timings - which don't work, and I couldn't even get into BIOS setup to change things. So I had to remove two sticks, then I could get into Setup, set voltages, timings, etc., then after a boot, reinstall memory, and now finally working fine.

Guess I'll have to go through that process everytime I update BIOS - which is one reason why I wish we could get information about what the BIOS changes are indended to address.

[dstedman]

are you using a 4 pin fan like is on intel fans?...if it is a 3 pin like the most of us, that is probably the cause of the problem.

Could be. Doesn't make sense that it would work for a while, then get stuck at 100%, though. At any rate, I am using Aux1 as my CPU fan header, and it seems to be working fine. It only drops my Yate Loon down to 900RPM instead of the 600RPM that the CPU header did, though. Oh, well.

[Nervous]

Are there any new memory dividers inbetween 1:1 and 1:20?

[WrigleyVillain]

Volkswagen, I believe that the newest beta bios will help with your vdroop on your quad. The newest bios out is 16.10 1 or 2 pages back

Any further confirmation on this?

[Volkswagen]

Any further confirmation on this?

Yes- Would be nice when a new beta bios is released/posted that it also would have some description of it on what it does/fix and what it adds etc...

[Nelly]

FAO: Ace-a-Rue

Any chance you can show temps underload with the Abit IP35 PRO with the QX9650 CPU @ 3.6ghz? interested to see PWM temps as well as cpu temp as well as coretemp, I'm guessing you already have done this but like over 200pages on this thread.

[Ace-a-Rue]

The pause in the boot sequence is not due to the test for the lengthly memory self test. The quick test is enabled. I turned it off one time and that takes forever - much longer than the ~1-2 minute pause that I get now.

looking at your specs i see a dual receiver....what is that?...you might want to pull that out for a short time to see if that changes anything on the post-up.

the next thing is raid 5 making it 1 Tb of storage....are you using the intel controller?

Problem with the new BIOS B 10.10 was that after clearing everything, it tries to come back up with 1.8 volts to memory and SPD timings - which don't work, and I couldn't even get into BIOS setup to change things. So I had to remove two sticks, then I could get into Setup, set voltages, timings, etc., then after a boot, reinstall memory, and now finally working fine.

many board makers have the vdimm reset back to 1.8v...that is why it is important that your dimms will boot at 1.8v so you can recover form a CMOS reset without putting in a different memory stick, which works at 1.8v.

Guess I'll have to go through that process everytime I update BIOS - which is one reason why I wish we could get information about what the BIOS changes are indended to address.

abit does not release a text update document for beta bioses...they verbally tell the recepient who is usually a hardware website/forum site reviewer.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Are there any new memory dividers inbetween 1:1 and 1:20?

i cannot recall what is available in the latest beta bios (16.B10)...go into the bios to review what FSB to Memory ratios are available.

[Ace-a-Rue]

FAO: Ace-a-Rue

Any chance you can show temps underload with the Abit IP35 PRO with the QX9650 CPU @ 3.6ghz? interested to see PWM temps as well as cpu temp as well as coretemp, I'm guessing you already have done this but like over 200pages on this thread.

does it have to be at 3.6 ghz?...are you trying to prove a point to a non-believer?

i'll tell you right now for my QX9650, at 3.6 ghz, it will require relatively low vcore to complete wPrime 1024M stability bench and slightly higher for Prime 95...what's you flavor?

[Ace-a-Rue]

FAO: Ace-a-Rue

Any chance you can show temps underload with the Abit IP35 PRO with the QX9650 CPU @ 3.6ghz? interested to see PWM temps as well as cpu temp as well as coretemp, I'm guessing you already have done this but like over 200pages on this thread.

here is 3.6 ghz doing P95 for about 15 minutes...the only problem...i can not set the vcore any lower than 1.20v actual vcore...this 9650 will do stock speed at 1.04v vcore...abit kind of ties our hands with not allowing users to set actual vcore below 1.20v...Uguru OC settings shows my VID as the lowest vcore available to be set...the only problem...actual vcore is 0.07v higher than indicated.

EDIT:...notice real temp 2.1 approximates Uguru core temperature...that is because the author wrote TjMax to be 95C versus 105C in coretemp...he has used one of those thermal guns to measure the actual TjMAx...according to him, intel has not published TjMax for the penryn and wolfdale and 105C used by coretemp program is not accurrate

[Nelly]

Thats great info thanks just trying to prove to a few people that they do actually run clock for clock on lower volts, cooler in terms of the pwm's as well as cpu temp.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=17851303

[Mana]

Hi guys, been reading a lot of this thread but it will take a while to get through it all... just wondering if u could help me with my overclock. The last time i overclocked was back when i had a 3500+ a few years go and took that to 2.6ghz. So am a bit out of touch. Anyway onto my setup...

Abit IP35 Pro
OCZ 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-8500C5 1066MHz SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel DDR2
Tuniq Tower 120-LFB CPU Cooler
Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU
Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 SLACR G0 Stepping...

Anyway here are my temps and volts and the current overclock:



Concerning my settings in Abit bios:

DRAM SPEED is 1:1.250
PCI EXPRESS CLOCK 101

CPU CORE VOLTAGE: 1.4525v (gives me 1.37v in windows, Vdroop?)
DDR2 VOLTAGE: 2.200V
CPU VTT 1.2V: 1.27V
MCH 1.25V: 1.37V
ICH 1.05V: 1.15V
ICHIO 1.5V: 1.55V

In cpu feature i have also disabled C1E Function and enabled EIST function

Concerning my RAM settings:

CAS Latency: 5
RAS to CASH DELAY: 5
RAS PRECHARGE: 5
Prechange Delay: 15
Everything else is left to Auto

Umm 3.2ghz seem stable as i ran prime95 for a few hours last night while i slept. I was wondering however if u think its possible to hit 3.3ghz stable as it boots fine into window but fails prime instantly and also when i start unrarrnig rar files it throws up errors all over the shop so its definately not useable in windows.

I havent updated any bios yet, do u guys recommend a certain bios? if u could maybe comment on my settings as well. i upped the cpu voltage to 1.45 real when i try 3.3ghz but its still not stable. my temps on load are 59C btw.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks a lot guys

edit: maybe lowering the multi?

[Volkswagen]

CPU CORE VOLTAGE: 1.4525v (gives me 1.37v in windows, Vdroop?) Yes you got it VDROOP and welcome to the club

[Mana]

CPU CORE VOLTAGE: 1.4525v (gives me 1.37v in windows, Vdroop?) Yes you got it VDROOP and welcome to the club

THanks VW, well i read a bit of this thread, (gonna take me a whole day i think to get thru it ) and i took some advice i saw and did the following:

upped the fsb to 368x9 so i am now again at 3.3ghz... however i have also upped the MCH to 1.44v and upped the ichio to 1.65volts...

i heard its not a good idea to set the ich voltatge to high so i left that at 1.15v...

so far so good. prime95 hasnt crashed instantly and its been going for about an hour now.

one happy bunny. if this is stable i am not sure whether to go for another 100mhz... but i am running out of headroom on the ram as its nearing 1066 now. i knwo i could lower the divider but i want the memory bw and the overclock damnit ...

edit prime still going strong and max temps of 55-56C, i tell u this tuniq 120 is a beast at keeping temps low .

[RPGWiZaRD]

Are half multies present in the BETA bioses? I would be interested in trying 7.5x533 as my Wolfy needs quite a huge step in vcore going from 4.0 to 4.1GHz, ~1.33 -> ~1.39v so I don't think it's worth clocking it higher for my 24/7 config and I'd rather wanna try improve performance in other ways then as my ram and mobo still have a headroom to go. Mobo can go to ~550 FSB at <= 1.5v MCH, and would prolly do 533 at 1.37v or 1.41v setting. My DDR2-667 D9GMH ram is good for up to around 575MHz / DDR2-1150 speeds at 2.2v CL5 timings so I think I might have quite a bit performance to gain if using 7.5x533 instead of 8x500.

Currently using the latest official bios 14 that was shipped with the board, and vcore is way off in bios but that's a known issue with this bios AFAIK (1.4250v bios = 1.33~1.34v windows).

Also which BIOS do you think is currently the best for your system? (stability and performance wise in case there would be any difference).

EDIT: Well I found an answer already need either 16 beta 09 or 10, which is better?

[Mana]

guys what program will give me a more accurate measurement of temperatures for the cpu and the board components, atm i am just using abit guru and its just saying 61C under prime95, would like a bit more info

[Volkswagen]

HWMonitor will. It will give you all the settings and temps for ur video card pwn cores case etc.....Great program

http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php

[Mana]

thanks VW, sorry i got another question,

whats MCH, ICH, ICHI0 and CPU VTT mean, what am i increasing the volts too and does anyone know the safe max limits?

atm i am at 3.3ghz stable with

Vcore @ 1.45V
CPUVTT @ 1.31V
MCH @ 1.52V
ICHIO 1.7V
CPU VTT 1.31V
ICH 1.05V

are these safe settings to use?
temps are fine, 55C on load and PWM of 72C (hope thats ok)

[Crazy Chuckster]

Any further confirmation on this?

Cant tell ya as im not running a quad....

Why dont you and volkswagen try out the newest bios and let us know.

[Volkswagen]

I will this weekend I am meeting with NickS and we will play arround with this. First we will test it in his Neo2-FR board ( I know the IP35-Pro should be better ) to see if we can achieve 9 x 400 which is all a borther is asking for This way I will be able to see if it is the board or if the best prime stable I can get out of my cpu is 3.5ghz. If I can achive the oc on the msi I will be in the market for a new board but before I buy we will go back to the ip35 pro and try some of those new beta bioses but to my knowledge none of them are focused on the Q6600 rather on the new 45mm chips?

Ill post my results either saturday or sunday

[HaTaX]

Isn't VDrop the difference between what you set in the bios and what you get at idle, and VDroop is the difference between core voltage at idle vs load?

Maybe I've got it wrong, but that's what I thought they were defined as.

Anyone with a wolfdale tried out 16B10 yet? I haven't loaded it and am wondering if people are seeing changes or advantages for E8x00 users.