790i ULTRA SLi

[k|ngp|n]

And I got Asus Striker II Formula last week and some things just don't change.

I promise you 1000%, that this mobo is no stryker2 formula. I tested the hell out of that mobo and no doubt came to the same conclusion as you man
(GOD BLESS ASUS if they are watching though as they make some fine motherboards too )

As for superpi, need to run it myself before making any conclusions about performance there.

[sonofander]

I understand that this is under NDA till the 18th, but can you tell us if there is an ETA for retail availablility?

[massman]

Nvidia is going to launch hardstyle it seems:

790i + 9800GX2 + Quad drivers available.

KP, is it possible to leak some bios shots?

[proxis]

nice avatar, Vince

[dinos22]

zbogorgon
test the reference board and then come back to the thread and tell us if that's the case again

[Yeknom]

nice avatar, Vince

+1. 135 on air will be quite impressive lol

[zbogorgon]

zbogorgon
test the reference board and then come back to the thread and tell us if that's the case again

your results are nothing to brag the performance of this board, Spi 1M is worse than if I watch a x264 movie while I run it

[Gautam]

It's rare for me to make a post like this, but your disrespectful attitude is beyond unacceptable. It seems like you're just bitter about something and crapping on k|ngp|n's and dinos' work. We know what you've accomplished, but you should know better than to come in talking down to everyone like this. It's so ridiculous that I can't even believe what I'm reading.

And for the record, dinos' 1M time is actually very much on the efficient side for a Wolfdale (cannot use an older BIOS). Just compare the efficiency to Team Japan's results and you'll see they're very much on par.

[dinos22]

i'm not bragging
i am just telling you there clearly is a lot of difference between the Asus board and reference

PP on 1M is fine and comparable to full support Wolfdale bioses of P35/X38 boards
1M PP on previous boards was just as good as any intel as well but it could not clock fsb very well

i personally wouldn't buy this board to bench superpi. i would rather spend $100 on a cheap P35 asus or gigabyte board and bench superpi myself

[zbogorgon]

It's rare for me to make a post like this, but your disrespectful attitude is beyond unacceptable. It seems like you're just bitter about something and crapping on k|ngp|n's and dinos' work. We know what you've accomplished, but you should know better than to come in talking down to everyone like this. It's so ridiculous that I can't even believe what I'm reading.

And for the record, dinos' 1M time is actually very much on the efficient side for a Wolfdale (cannot use an older BIOS). Just compare the efficiency to Team Japan's results and you'll see they're very much on par.

you missread me then, it is not my intent to be disrespectful, but I see a lot of praising and advertisment of this 790i Ultra SLI motherboard and I would really want to understand why and so far, despite all the comments I have been able to find, it's just another nForce-based board, expensive. Okey, it goes 600FSB, but nowdays which board doesn't ?

And those Pro Team Japans results are made on almost 2 years old board that goes 650 FSB and cost 100€. Hey if you get me one of 790i's for 150€, it's a damm good board .

and little more comparison, E8500 on 100€ DDR2 board, P5K

and here it's mine, QX9770, same frequency, 407 FSB, DDR2, sub 8s, a €170 board, with dual 16x PCI-E

[zbogorgon]

i personally wouldn't buy this board to bench superpi. i would rather spend $100 on a cheap P35 asus or gigabyte board and bench superpi myself

This is all I wanted to say, in any other aspect it's nothing special, probably inferior to any decent X38 board, except it runs SLI and that's what it supposed to be special ? It's supposed to be worth 300€? Maybe, but not for me and since the SLI monopol, I am saying it's just another rip off!

[Gautam]

you missread me then, it is not my intent to be disrespectful, but I see a lot of praising and advertisment of this 790i Ultra SLI motherboard and I really want to see why and so far, despite all the comments I have been able to find, it's just another nForce-based board, expensive. Okey, it goes 600FSB, but nowdays which board doesn't ?

And those Pro Team Japans results are made on almost 2 years old board that goes 650 FSB and cost 100€. Hey if you get me one of 790i's for 150€, it's a damm good board.

and little more comparison, E8500 on 100€ DDR2 board, P5K

and here it's mine, E8500, same frequency, 407 FSB, DDR2, sub 8s, and €170 board, with dual 16x PCI-E

Which board doesn't?

X48 doesn't. X38 doesn't. P35 doesn't. (Not with 45nm at least which is all that matters today) You can't run a CF rig at 600MHz FSB, but it appears that an SLi rig might be doable. It's amazing seeing Team Japan pushing the envelope with 965, but these days, the high end market consists of multiple cards and DDR3, nothing that that old setup could handle.

You wouldn't buy this board. Point taken already. And your SuperPi is not an E8500. It's a QX9770 that's obviously running an older BIOS, shaving .2 secs off the time. Pop a Wolfdale in your board and see how high you can clock it and what Pi time you get.

[zbogorgon]

Which board doesn't?

X48 doesn't. X38 doesn't. P35 doesn't. (Not with 45nm at least which is all that matters today) You can't run a CF rig at 600MHz FSB, but it appears that an SLi rig might be doable. It's amazing seeing Team Japan pushing the envelope with 965, but these days, the high end market consists of multiple cards and DDR3, nothing that that old setup could handle.

You wouldn't buy this board. Point taken already. And your SuperPi is not an E8500. It's a QX9770 that's obviously running an older BIOS, shaving .2 secs off the time. Pop a Wolfdale in your board and see how high you can clock it and what Pi time you get.

I have shown you that P5K can do 600FSB, so does P965, here is mine X38 at 601FPS, I had 615 and I am quite sure it will go more, I just need CPU that goes, X48 will go 650, kiwi had Foxconn at 620, remember ?

Why does it mater which bios I use, it's normal to use the fastest, and here is my result with E8500, lower frequency, but it's better perf. rating.

[DMH]

Ok,you have better performance take the prize home
who buys an SLI motherboard to run PI??SLI Ultras won't help your score in PI,this board is for 3dMARK's purpose

PS:k|ngp|n's thing is 3DMARK,so is PI scores might not be the best but they are better then average

[dinos22]

I have shown you that P5K can do 600FSB, so does P965, here is mine X38 at 601FPS, I had 615 and I am quite sure it will go more, I just need CPU that goes, X48 will go 650, kiwi had Foxconn at 620, remember ?

Why does it mater which bios I use, it's normal to use the fastest, and here is my result with E8500, lower frequency, but it's better perf. rating.

OK now you are being ignorant i'm sorry to say

it matters because there are full support and semi support bios files

FIRST POINT.
now the bios you showed is a non-full support bios which is buggy and it has stock 45.5K PP and tweaked 45K or if you are very good sub 45K

i can show you sub 45K on a non-supported bios but that is not a fair comparison as it is a buggy bios as it is your result above.

Install the latest bios and show us your efficiency then mate. do you want to bet what it will be


SECOND POINT.
my runs were done as a straight boot from bios at 600MHz FSB. i only set main timings and frequency for RAM in bios > 8-7-6-20 1T. I did not touch subtimings. I did not have a new version of memset which is coming that will allow me to tweak the RAM nor was i trying to be FAST FFS. It was only an indicative run to share with people here how easy it is to do 600Mhz FSB and believe me i don't think you will need a special CPU for it either.

with fully tweaked system and all the RAM timings set for best SuperPi this mobo will do same 1M as any good intel



THIRD POINT.
your second point about high FSB is ignorant as well >> WHY?

you did not test a reference 790i board and you are making conclusions in a thread about reference boards rather than third party ones. you have a "lucky" Intel based board which can do that FSB. Ask team Japan if you don't agree with me. You know very well as everyone else does on this forum that it is not very easy finding a board in P35/X38/X48 that can do such high FSB with Wolfdale. It is almost impossible and only a small few P5K boards and an odd other has been able to do this so far. P965 boards have had higher FSB to newer gen but they are also spotty and not all do that even in C2 revison. i can show you examples of C2 boards that have issues or are no different to other boards including my good friend's one > eva2000. The other problem with them is the 1x PCI Express issue so you will have to be lucky to wreste the board into wanting to run at full bandwidth to run 3D runs. Third issue you have is pmem tweaks don't always work very well. Once you try to tighen them the board gives up a lot of FSB. Ask NewBeetle-san how much FSB he lost while trying to improve memory performance through pmem? i had a gem board myself which allowed for tight pmem settings but could not break 600FSB and was spotty at 600 as well.....595 was easier.

let me tell you something mate. get ahold of a reference 790i and buy 10xCPUs (wolfdales) and then test them on the 790i and then on normal P35/X38/X48. i know you guys have plenty of boards to choose from. I am very confident that on average the 790i will absolutely smash them in FSB as per current boards and bioses.

i have lots of motherboards in all ranges that i can test and from my couple of week 40 E8500 i could not go past 530 stable FSB on water >> stuck it in the 790i and i am doing 575MHz stable FSB for 32M Spi. This is no joke mate. 790i is that good

i know that nvidia sent me boards in the past which were really no different to your average joe bloe retail board so i have no reason to believe other will be able to replicate my results.

Don't drag my name into your stupid polemics.

sorry for the OT KP

[zbogorgon]

dinoss22, I am so sorry, it must be just this day, my mind is not as it supposed to be...

QX9770 result was done with official 1.1 bios, E8500 result was done with official 1.2 bios, I don't know about FULL support , will have to check with Abit on that

This P5K i showed you, It's only P5K board my friend had in his hands, I had one, did 600FSB, only P5K board I had. About mine X38, only X38 board I had, does 600FSB, I don't know, we must be really really luck then, i don't know...

mine QX9770 result was done completely without accessing bios, so what, MemSet "what is that" doesn't work on that mobo.

"I am very confident that on average the 790i will absolutely smash them in FSB " that's a very bold statement, before any Retail board has been seen. It wouldn't be the first time that manufacturer sends his best products to reviews and tests.

And I somehow doubt that we will see wolfdales WRs on nforce board.

p.s. and here is sth that your Team.AU can aim for, now that you have 790i board :P

[dinos22]

And I somehow doubt that we will see wolfdales WRs on nforce board.

in 3D?
why not

p.s. and here is sth that your Team.AU can aim for, now that you have 790i board :P

once again > Nvidia introduced full support for wolfdale with their earliest bios files so it won't happen
no name time is not very efficient. He should be doing around 7.35s
give me that CPU and i will show him 7.35s on a gigabyte board

[BenchZowner]

You know very well as everyone else does on this forum that it is not very easy finding a board in P35/X38/X48 that can do such high FSB with Wolfdale. It is almost impossible and only a small few P5K boards and an odd other has been able to do this so far.

I'd take it to the bank.

Tested a 600MHz FSB ( on Commando ) E8400 this week on various P35/X38/X48 boards and my highest ( apart from the commando ) was my best P5K3 Deluxe that did 560MHz stable with this E8400.
Tested motherboards:
Abit IP35 Pro
2* Asus P5K3 Deluxe
2* Asus Maximus Formula
1* Gigabyte X48T-DQ6
Asus Commando
Asus P5K Deluxe

[dinos22]

I'd take it to the bank.

Tested a 600MHz FSB ( on Commando ) E8400 this week on various P35/X38/X48 boards and my highest ( apart from the commando ) was my best P5K3 Deluxe that did 560MHz stable with this E8400.
Tested motherboards:
Abit IP35 Pro
2* Asus P5K3 Deluxe
2* Asus Maximus Formula
1* Gigabyte X48T-DQ6
Asus Commando
Asus P5K Deluxe

^^^^ Case in point ^^^^

[zbogorgon]

I'd take it to the bank.

Tested a 600MHz FSB ( on Commando ) E8400 this week on various P35/X38/X48 boards and my highest ( apart from the commando ) was my best P5K3 Deluxe that did 560MHz stable with this E8400.

I havent seen 790i 560FSB stable

[dinos22]

for anyone scratching their heads as to WTF i'm talking about in terms of PP on 1M SuperPi and "buggy" bioses please read this thread from start to finish

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=168567

here is sub 45K efficiency zbog (still not fully tweaked yet mate )






I am done with thread OT-ing in KP's thread
if you need to discuss it more make your own thread or PM ppl

[AndreYang]

I hope P5K can do SLI WR.

[k|ngp|n]

I hope P5K can do SLI WR.

LOL everytime you post one of those little laughing guys I can hear your laugh loud and clear as if you were standing right here ANDRE

I don't mind the off topics guys, it's all good. We certainly don't downplay the importance of 01 in benching around here though do we??...this is XS

113.5k + 2001 SLI with two 8800 ULTRA's on some pretty low air clocks.
For sub 5800mhz and ULTRA'S on air, this is an AWESOME score

[dinos22]

For sub 5800mhz and ULTRA'S on air, this is an AWESOME score
http://www.overclockingpin.com/113532.gif

i don't think anyone needs any convincing from you mate

[nachthymnen]

LOL everytime you post one of those little laughing guys I can hear your laugh loud and clear as if you were standing right here ANDRE

I don't mind the off topics guys, it's all good. We certainly don't downplay the importance of 01 in benching around here though do we??...this is XS

113.5k + 2001 SLI with two 8800 ULTRA's on some pretty low air clocks.
For sub 5800mhz and ULTRA'S on air, this is an AWESOME score

113k with 2 Ultras aircooled is GOOD
I really like this board