**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Ledge]

Thanks for the boost in confidence. I will check out the Beta. Hope it works better than this one does. Did they fix the double boot in that one??

[HaTaX]

I think I ran into that once when I was running version 14. I was stubborn about upgrading because I had seen a few (honestly only one or two people) complain they had memory problems after upgrading to 16B09. I have cheap memory that I've coaxed good speed and timings out of with little voltage and didn't want to upset the apple cart.

When I was overclocking it I had it once boot up and appeared fine, but after it passed the memory and C1E checks it rebooted and the second time all was fine. Like I said, I didn't see it much and haven't seen it at all since I've been on 16B09.

[Ace-a-Rue]

and guys, another beta bios is coming shortly...Bingo13 will post it up here once he gets it and checks it out.

ledge: follow my flashing guide in my signature for a safe flash.

[Nervous]

I am still hoping abit will add more memory dividers inbetween 1:1 and 1:1.20. I would completely happy with something like 1:1.10

[Tsuchiro]

is it me or the fan pwn for this board is kinda buggy? when i set the low fan speed to 30% it would sometimes run at 600rpm and sometimes doesnt even run at all and when i set it to 50% it runs at 1900rpm and im pretty sure 1900rpm shouldnt be 50%


EDIT: another thing that is weird, when i dled latest uguru (3.1.0.7) but when i look at the about it said i have 3.1.0.3

[mezryn]

I had more time for playing last night - thanks for the CMOS clear tip, that fixed the speedstepping issue.

For the 3dmark score drop, I was able to do some pretty concrete testing, and the 50% score drop was an exaggeration but accurate based on my observations during the first test. This is the score I get when I OC to 4GHz (3dmark reports for some reason 4.3GHz)

http://service.futuremark.com/result...&resultType=14

And then, here's what I get with no overclocking, default BIOS settings:

http://service.futuremark.com/result...&resultType=14

Each higher OC above 3Ghz would result in a lower and lower score. It went from 9.9, to 9.8, to 9.6, etc. until finally this 9.1 at 4GHz. Imagine my despair Now, before my wife convinced me it was time for bed, I began playing with the Temperature Control CPU setting (I believe that's what it was called), and with it disabled it would have difficulty booting per intermittent shut downs during the boot process. Increasing vcore/mch did little to alleviate it, and I wonder if it's the Abit Thermalguard kicking in because my CPU temps are reporting between 70 and 95. I'm wondering if the Temperature Control was causing CPU throttling, and hence the higher OCs would cause higher temps, and hence more throttling. Or is this a separate feature altogether?

BTW, increasing the PCIe Clock had no affect - tested 101, 102, 110 and 115. Tested GTLref 63 to 69

i do not understand about the 50% drop....is your 3d2006 score dropping 50%????

[WrigleyVillain]

and guys, another beta bios is coming shortly...Bingo13 will post it up here once he gets it and checks it out.

[BenSanford]

first try vdimm of 2.2 to 2.3v to see if that helps with all four sticks...think about air cooling the memory sticks.

what is your "MCH" (memory controller hub, AKA, Northbridge) set to?...you might need 1.52, 1.56 or 1.64...don't forget the Southbridge, AKA, "ICHIO1.5" will need extra help to communicate to all four of those memory sticks...i'd recommend 1.65 to 1.7v, at least.

Ace,

I tried your recommendation, and at 2.3v, 1.64v on MCH and ICHIO1.5 at 1.7v and I still can't run. A couple of times it got past the initial loading of Vista, but then blue-screened shortly afterwards.

I can run fine on stock voltages (2.1v for vDimm, MCH on "auto", and ICHIO1.5 at 1.5v) with either the 1st pair of memory sticks I had in slots 2 & 4, or with the 2nd pair of memory sticks in slots 1 & 3. That seems to eliminate both the memory and a possible bad socket on the board as a problem.

Wondering if a different BIOS might be worth trying. Currently on Beta 16.09

[Pntgrd]

is it me or the fan pwn for this board is kinda buggy? when i set the low fan speed to 30% it would sometimes run at 600rpm and sometimes doesnt even run at all and when i set it to 50% it runs at 1900rpm and im pretty sure 1900rpm shouldnt be 50%


EDIT: another thing that is weird, when i dled latest uguru (3.1.0.7) but when i look at the about it said i have 3.1.0.3

When youo setup the fan control, did you let uGuru find the high and low first? I have found that if you do not it can get flakey with the speeds.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Ace,

I tried your recommendation, and at 2.3v, 1.64v on MCH and ICHIO1.5 at 1.7v and I still can't run. A couple of times it got past the initial loading of Vista, but then blue-screened shortly afterwards.

I can run fine on stock voltages (2.1v for vDimm, MCH on "auto", and ICHIO1.5 at 1.5v) with either the 1st pair of memory sticks I had in slots 2 & 4, or with the 2nd pair of memory sticks in slots 1 & 3. That seems to eliminate both the memory and a possible bad socket on the board as a problem.

Wondering if a different BIOS might be worth trying. Currently on Beta 16.09

it tells me that it is a vista problem with the bios...i would go back to 16.b04 and then try other older bioses.

try using three of your 2gb sticks to see if it boots up normally...two would be in a dual channel and the other in a single channel...if you get into vista, i would definitely say that it is a bios problem with vista when 8gb's are installed.

[HaTaX]

Mez, what type of CPU cooler do you have? If the CPU is starting to throttle itself because it's getting too hot, you would see a downwards stair step pattern with higher speeds like you're seeing. 95c is pretty darn roasty if that's correct and would most likely be at throttling temps.

[Cpl Ledanek]

a 650W PSU should be fine...can't tell you if that particular model is going to be the right one...try it!

XP SP2 will allow 3.25 gb to be used for installed software as long as you use the PAE (Physical Address Extension) switch

Just to update: Silverstone Zeus ST65ZF so far works fine---I'm glad it had the 4-pin adapter next to the 20-pin or else this n00b would have gone bonkers

I will try tonight:
1) uninstall uGURU CD-ROM version that came with retail box
2) clear my CMOS again and set the defaults on
3) hopefully understand the Ace's USB flash---i gots no floppies+floppy drive
4) flash 16B09 (informed by Hatax )
5) install 3.107 uGuru (informed by Hatax )

about the PAE (Physical Address Extension) switch...I'm not gonna toy with that for now. too much other important things to be concern about memory right now.

Question:
---Anyone got this board inside a Stacker 830? Running Air-cooled? using Sidefans? any thoughts on running board upside-down or BTX???

Advance thanks

[mezryn]

Mez, what type of CPU cooler do you have? If the CPU is starting to throttle itself because it's getting too hot, you would see a downwards stair step pattern with higher speeds like you're seeing. 95c is pretty darn roasty if that's correct and would most likely be at throttling temps.

I've got a ZeroTherm NV120 (comparable to a TRUE 120) w/ AS5 in an Antec 900, with all fans installed... the cooler is practically cold to the touch... cold air blows out... so yeah, I'm hoping the new BIOS fixes it, else I'll reseat the heatsink as it potentially isn't on there snug - I about stripped one of the screws installing it, so it's a good possibility.

[Tsuchiro]

When youo setup the fan control, did you let uGuru find the high and low first? I have found that if you do not it can get flakey with the speeds.

well my high is always set to 100%...

[HaTaX]

Tsuchiro, by the fact you're listing speeds by percentage I'm guessing you're using the CPU fan header for your CPU cooler. If the fan on that cooler doesn't have a 4 pin power connector you'll need to move it to one of the AUX or SYS headers to get control over it. The CPU header is only meant for 4 pin PWM controlled fans and the board has trouble controlling a 3 pin fan on that header.

[Ace-a-Rue]

intel stock fan has 4 pin plug...that is what the spec was designed for.

[Ace-a-Rue]

about the PAE (Physical Address Extension) switch...I'm not gonna toy with that for now. too much other important things to be concern about memory right now.

it might be already enabled automatically if you have "DEP" enable for windows and services....way to check is to right click on "my computer" and slide down to "properties"...left click and read it on the "general" tab, at the bottom...OR...go into the control panel and double click on "Systems".

[Cpl Ledanek]

it might be already enabled automatically if you have "DEP" enable for windows and services....way to check is to right click on "my computer" and slide down to "properties"...left click and read it on the "general" tab, at the bottom...OR...go into the control panel and double click on "Systems".

...see I didn't even see this in the top 5 Google searches I did.
I'm glad your so generous with your time Ace

[HaTaX]

Yup the intel stock fan does have a 4 pin plug on it, but I think he's using this cooler from his sig:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article267-page1.html

And in that review of it they show it only has a 3 pin plug on it, so if he's got it plugged into the 4 pin header he might have problems controlling it. Mine seemed to work on that header at first, but after a few reboots it was either not running at all or was at max.

[nfsnfs]

I had BIOS 11 , I upgraded to BIOS 14 using USB flash drive . I removed the drive . Cleared CMOS at jumper and also at the back . I have abit ip pro

Now everytime I restart I get CMOS checksum error , Defaults loaded .

Untill I press F1 it does not move .

How to get rid of this ?

UDPDATE : set the cmos jumper of the board , removed all the things connected . Replaced the jumper , restarted ,its fine now .

[nfsnfs]

One more query ,

I have abit IP pro ,with BIOS 14 .

1. Even with present BIOS 14 or earlier BIOS 11 , the abit Uguru or everest cannot read the Aux1 ,aux2 and Aux4 fans . Whereas CPU ,sysfan and Aux3 are read correctly . I tried latest uguru also .I tried without uguru also .
In bios i can see the the 3 fans are not read and display NA . Any solution for this ? ,Is these fans not controllable ?

2. Everest shows core1 -35 ,core2-36 ,cpu-23( cpu is 6750 stock setttings ,ambient is 28 c ) ! , even uguru shows the same . Any insights on this and how to fix this ?

[Cpl Ledanek]

I finally found a floppy drive and did flash 16B09.
I rebooted, but now I cannot even get the CD-ROM to start up so I can install the necessary drivers, specially the USB drivers.

In Device Manager, nothing shows up. I was hoping to update the USB driver that way.

I tried connecting the FLASH USB so I can load uGuru 3.107 (in the flash USB), straight after reboot but I get the code 50 = initializing USB, but hangs there for sometime.

If I take off my USB, then reboot, it load to Windows but there's nothing else I could do

advance thanks
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[HaTaX]

After you installed the new bios did you do a reset back to factory defaults either via the jumper / switch or in the bios by loading defaults on the first menu?

It sounds like your cd rom drive is an IDE drive and maybe the IDE controller (JMicron controller) is turned off in the bios. Do a reset to defaults and then check and see if the IDE controller is turned on and it should be found by windows then. If not you've got something strange going on...

Also just so you know in the future, you can use a USB flash drive to boot from and do the bios updates. That's how I do mine and it's alot easier to deal with then a floppy. I use an old 512mb drive for it, not good for too much else. Take a look in Ace-a-rue's signature for a link on how to update the bios, and at the bottom of his post is instructions on where to get the HP format utility and such.

[Cpl Ledanek]

I re-flashed it with B09 and got my CD-ROM back.
So, I load the XP CD-ROM and copied the I386 folder to desktop, in hope of finding my drivers in there.

[Tsuchiro]

Yup the intel stock fan does have a 4 pin plug on it, but I think he's using this cooler from his sig:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article267-page1.html

And in that review of it they show it only has a 3 pin plug on it, so if he's got it plugged into the 4 pin header he might have problems controlling it. Mine seemed to work on that header at first, but after a few reboots it was either not running at all or was at max.

well mine is 4pin pwm controlled..... the AT is 4pin its in one w/o the LED... well it seem to be working fine right now but sometimes its funky