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    more pic of that setup and loads temps are needed asap!!

    nice job bud
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    Pictures - Continuation:





    Idle -


    Load -


    3870x2 @ Load Hot List:
    Bridge - Hot (fill it up with ramsinks)
    RAM - Warm
    Voltage - Hot
    Large Pulse chip - Hot
    Small Pulse Chip - Warm/Unknown(small/loose - wasn't going to really push it =P)
    Chip next to small Pulse Chip - (Same as above)
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    I'll have the upside-down case setup until Monday night - where there's some nice thermal tape waiting for me

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    Nice job and nice temps. Ramsinks are a pain in the ass when you have that many different VRMs, chips, etc. to cover. Maybe a fan blowing across it would help?

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    can u post some everest gpu temps please load and idle..

    i would like to individual temps of each gpu if possible
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    To my knowledge, no version of Everest has worked for me as far as retrieving even a single GPU temp. Rivatuner 2.07 is the only program besides Asus Smart Doctor (came with card) thats supposed to work with the 3870x2's and its slated for release a week from now.

    Confirmation - http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1273749

    I would say the smart doctor temps are probably a safe bet for now, although i couldn't tell you how Asus gets its temperature readings (be it from both cores averaged / highest core / or just a random pick).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanamoril View Post
    To my knowledge, no version of Everest has worked for me as far as retrieving even a single GPU temp. Rivatuner 2.07 is the only program besides Asus Smart Doctor (came with card) thats supposed to work with the 3870x2's and its slated for release a week from now.

    Confirmation - http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1273749

    I would say the smart doctor temps are probably a safe bet for now, although i couldn't tell you how Asus gets its temperature readings (be it from both cores averaged / highest core / or just a random pick).
    Wrong. Please see this thread and try the linked latest version.

    http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2951

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    great work. Are you still using the stock backplate/ramsink ?
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    Sorry 0.o, here's Everest :


    Load temps not posted due to a problem with VRM temps. Before I throttled it, I noticed Asus Smart Doctor uses the highest core at load. Also, ATITool doesn't seem to stress both cores equally. One was around 45 C while the other was at 38 C

    btw, what is the max stable temperature for the VRMs? Under load, one of the VRMs goes to and stays at a little over 50 C and one of the VRMs shoots up 100+ C. I'm checking into what is possibly cooling (or not cooling) it.

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    great work. Are you still using the stock backplate/ramsink ?
    Yep.
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    Nice work, let us know how the VRM problem goes... YOu sure the ram sink is making contact?
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    Looking forward for more results. And I must say, this is prolly one of those few times that it might be better to get a FC block.



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    46C full load is not that good
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    Alright, this project is now going in one of three directions:

    The first option is to use a stronger adhesive tape and possibly redesign a few of the ramsinks.

    The second option is to use copper plates in between the cores and the MCW60s and bring back the red heatsink. The copper plates should be enough to get it over the red pins on the side of the card. If not, then dremeling the red pins down comes into play.

    Now the third option, This would be the best choice and possibly the easiest. Dremel down the red pins and dremel out the area where the block mounts. This option will work and cool the card effectively, it would also be the best choice for people looking for ease of use. However, my one and only concern about this option is that it damages the ability to sell it later.... However, the more I think about it, the more I want to do it.

    Please give me some input. Thank you.

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    Side note: Full coverage blocks have been mentioned time and time again. They are definitely easier, but some people (including me) would rather not spend upwards of $150 on a waterblock and then have it sit around once the 3870x2's phase out. There's already a thread for these FC blocks, please post there as it is somewhat discouraging to continue to hear about how it would be better to use them instead.

    I don't mean any ill will and I appreciate you taking the time to express your opinions, I'm just mentioning this now so future posts will avoid the topic. Much appreciation for your understanding.

    ...Also, how is 46 C load on this beast high? 0.o (awaiting response, somewhat confused and curious)
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    so just dremel out the stock heat sink? i think its perfect. no waste of materials, and one single solution. Any idea if the MCW-60's would be a single slot solution, or atleast enough to fit a sound card in with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalmonkey View Post
    so just dremel out the stock heat sink? i think its perfect. no waste of materials, and one single solution. Any idea if the MCW-60's would be a single slot solution, or atleast enough to fit a sound card in with.
    They'll take up two slots like the stock cooler. You should be able to fit a sound card in with ease (depending on your setup).
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    Dremell it!
    later you can sell it with the blocks installed.
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    Interesting Update:

    I went to dremel:
    The material is aluminum alright and luckily the part right around the block placement area is half as thick as the rest of the heatsink *yay*. However the block gets about a cm into the thick part, but the block should easily fit. Will need to remove a little over half of the red side pins so the tubing get through.

    Now the interesting part. Since I couldn't complete the dremeling that day I went to try a better method of cooling the VRMs, so I just took the large heatsinks that were cut and redistributed them around to all of the VRMs and just slapped on entire, new heatsinks onto all of the pusle chips. So now the VRMs have more cooling - however ramsinks are apparently insufficient for cooling the VRMs, these things are beastly. Fitting the maximum amount of copper (plus pins) into the available space above the VRMs did not prove to cool the chips enough. The previous temperature I gave in comparison was drawn from ATI Tool - which only really stresses one core atm. In gameplay however pulls those temperatures sky high I mean near 100C and over on both. (and before anyone asks if they were mounted correctly, yes they were. XD. They didnt move during tiping and didnt fall off when upside down - and they were scorching under game load. They burnt skin off my friends finger when he went to lightly touch 'em XD )

    Either give those VRM heatsinks active cooling (even then I'm unsure, having used a case sized fan to do so - but I don't remember what those temps were) or slap that stock heatsink back on and dremel it.

    I should have time to dremel the stock heatsink completely on Thursday, so check back late that night (est. 11PM EST - latest).
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    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=176973

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    Exclamation

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanamoril View Post
    To my knowledge, no version of Everest has worked for me as far as retrieving even a single GPU temp. Rivatuner 2.07 is the only program besides Asus Smart Doctor (came with card) thats supposed to work with the 3870x2's and its slated for release a week from now.

    Confirmation - http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1273749

    I would say the smart doctor temps are probably a safe bet for now, although i couldn't tell you how Asus gets its temperature readings (be it from both cores averaged / highest core / or just a random pick).
    HWMonitor works great for GPU's, I always get great readings from it.

    Congratz on an awesome job m8, I'm a WC noob who will have my first loop setup next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooStFeD View Post
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=176973

    Two swiftech chipset coolers + 3870x2
    Yarp, its a nice setup. Someone has already mentioned it though,


    Quote Originally Posted by Xerran View Post
    HWMonitor works great for GPU's, I always get great readings from it.

    Congratz on an awesome job m8, I'm a WC noob who will have my first loop setup next week.
    Thank you. I'll give HWMon a go.



    BTW, Update:

    Rained today, Dremeling pushed back to Friday. Hopefully it will commence a little after noon.
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    You got anything Tanamoril? Hope you didn't like cut your finger off while dremeling that heatsink, :p.

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    anything?? anything at all?? might as well just do it myself now, :p

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