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    Quote Originally Posted by HKPolice View Post
    NOT POSSIBLE.

    Why? AMD owns ATi, nVidia acquiring ATi would violate anti-trust laws.

    The end.
    Unless AMD would sell ATI to Intel

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    Yeah maybe nvidia can teach amd how to make a cpu that doesnt suck haha.

    Seriously tho, this is BS, it would never be allowed to go down.
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    Here's my advise to Nvidia. Mortgage the farm to buy AMD, then make a deal with Intel. Nvidia/AMD (AMvidia?) will be allowed to keep making x86 products in exchange for AMvidia dropping the lawsuit.

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    if anything, id like to see AMD merge with IBM. they already share the same processing fabs and some product info; y not seal the deal
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    Well maybe Nvidia is thinking that the dedicated GPU market will die in the future together with PC gaming (come on let's face it it's not looking good) and only the Professional market will be left for them which is too small for them to ensure future growth. In this sense an Entry to the CPU market could be their ticket to future survival. Just some thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JargonGR View Post
    Well maybe Nvidia is thinking that the dedicated GPU market will die in the future together with PC gaming (come on let's face it it's not looking good) and only the Professional market will be left for them which is too small for them to ensure future growth. In this sense an Entry to the CPU market could be their ticket to future survival. Just some thoughts.
    But even the CPU market is going to shrink in future years, people are already taking the performance of modern processors for granted and will just choose the cheapest
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    I think AMD + IBM would make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happychappy View Post
    But even the CPU market is going to shrink in future years, people are already taking the performance of modern processors for granted and will just choose the cheapest
    Cheapest or not they will still buy one while many will not need an add on VGA card. The gaming market is also moving to consoles leaving PC game sales behind.
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    AMD & IBM - interesting !!!
    Lets hope that things won't be worse !!!
    I don't like the Company merges idea , beacause the competative is becoming small.
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    Computers and CPU's are increasingly becoming a commodity, meaning that they cannot command the same prices as they used to. The Dell's of today are shipping out cheap computers to the consumer market at high volume-volume being necessary to gain any significant profit. The scientific and web-enabling markets are the only ones that are requiring processors that can command a significant profit because of the higher binning and resultant lower supply, etc. IBM used to manufacture x86 cpus, as well as produce the hardware in their PCs and laptops. They sold all of these units off due to the low margins (and made a killing, sucks to be the buyers ) and have focused on CPUs for said high-profit markets, etc. Otherwise, they remain a service based company for things like websphere, etc.

    Integrated GPUs are now commodity items. Again though, the money is made off of the discrete cards, much like the CPUs for the server market. Nvidia has little to worry about in terms of integrated GPU-CPU hybrids, as they will be little more than the standard integrated GPUs at first. Larabee is more of a threat, but the answer to this is increased innovation.

    Neither IBM nor Nvidia will buy AMD. As I've said before, it does not make sense for IBM to go back into a market they bailed out of for no gain whatsoever. They don't need AMD for any tech, server market share, anything. It would be a waste.

    Nvidia does not need AMD for anything either. Their focus has been on Intel chipsets, which, while not perfect, are still selling well at high margins. In terms of Graphics, they remain the leader (in terms of volume at least-the rest can be debated in some other thread). CPUs are expensive to make and although they have recently released one, it's essentially a stepping stone into getting into the handheld/cell market. High-volume and low cost is another avenue they have at their fingertips. AMD offers Nvidia nothing except debt, as well as some CPU expertise that would be of little use to them. Unless they managed to get hold of ATI technologies (which would likely not happen before the spinoff took place), they have absolutely nothing to gain. They are making good money off of technology that remains high-margin, and expansion into other avenues like the handheld markets holds far more promise then anything else at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xVeinx View Post
    Computers and CPU's are increasingly becoming a commodity, meaning that they cannot command the same prices as they used to. The Dell's of today are shipping out cheap computers to the consumer market at high volume-volume being necessary to gain any significant profit. The scientific and web-enabling markets are the only ones that are requiring processors that can command a significant profit because of the higher binning and resultant lower supply, etc. IBM used to manufacture x86 cpus, as well as produce the hardware in their PCs and laptops. They sold all of these units off due to the low margins (and made a killing, sucks to be the buyers ) and have focused on CPUs for said high-profit markets, etc. Otherwise, they remain a service based company for things like websphere, etc.

    Integrated GPUs are now commodity items. Again though, the money is made off of the discrete cards, much like the CPUs for the server market. Nvidia has little to worry about in terms of integrated GPU-CPU hybrids, as they will be little more than the standard integrated GPUs at first. Larabee is more of a threat, but the answer to this is increased innovation.

    Neither IBM nor Nvidia will buy AMD. As I've said before, it does not make sense for IBM to go back into a market they bailed out of for no gain whatsoever. They don't need AMD for any tech, server market share, anything. It would be a waste.

    Nvidia does not need AMD for anything either. Their focus has been on Intel chipsets, which, while not perfect, are still selling well at high margins. In terms of Graphics, they remain the leader (in terms of volume at least-the rest can be debated in some other thread). CPUs are expensive to make and although they have recently released one, it's essentially a stepping stone into getting into the handheld/cell market. High-volume and low cost is another avenue they have at their fingertips. AMD offers Nvidia nothing except debt, as well as some CPU expertise that would be of little use to them. Unless they managed to get hold of ATI technologies (which would likely not happen before the spinoff took place), they have absolutely nothing to gain. They are making good money off of technology that remains high-margin, and expansion into other avenues like the handheld markets holds far more promise then anything else at the moment.
    Well put

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    Nvidia don't have the money or the assets to secure enough funds to buy AMD

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    this is nonsense...
    couldn't have put it better myself.
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