Phenom 9500 w/ MSI K9A2 Platinum

[Oldguy932]

No, that was done with a regular 9600. My mobo actually locks the speed of the nb at 9*htt if I set the nb multi higher than 9. I realized that the BE was completely unlocked after I bought it, and it saddened me even more when it only hit 235htt max and it needed the 8x nb multi just to do it.

The point of increasing the nb multi isn't to make the nb faster, its to make the L3 cache run faster. Try it again for the heck of it, and I'll get some screens of everest and the cpu-z latency thing showing the difference.

[KTE]

No, that was done with a regular 9600. My mobo actually locks the speed of the nb at 9*htt if I set the nb multi higher than 9. I realized that the BE was completely unlocked after I bought it, and it saddened me even more when it only hit 235htt max and it needed the 8x nb multi just to do it.

Wait a minute... you can run NB at 8x with 9600 BE? Are you sure you're not getting them mixed up?

The 9500/2x9600 I had all run 9x NB multi max but are downward multi unlocked.
The 2x9600BE I had both are downward multi locked but upward unlocked.

Same MB, the same BIOS and the same as I've seen with many other users so far.

The 9500/9600 show high NB multi only in CPUZ (false). They never change above 9x actual.
They then show downclocked CPU/RAM speed in AOD/EVEREST but not in CPUZ.
CPUZ will not verify those speeds because they are all over and not true.
Same reason why you can't change HT to higher than 9x on any MB.
The actual CPU/RAM/HT speeds are how CPUZ shows it, but the NB speeds are as AOD shows them and not as CPUZ.

We've been through this a few months back so I can recognize the speeds clearly. That's why I know your 1M run was at 3GHz rather than 2.5GHz as its a known AOD bug. Like this: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7721/jsjssk9.png

False NB speed, correct everything else.

The point of increasing the nb multi isn't to make the nb faster, its to make the L3 cache run faster. Try it again for the heck of it, and I'll get some screens of everest and the cpu-z latency thing showing the difference.

CPUZ latency is synthetic and shows faster latencies based off CPUZ readings, nothing else will show any gains with 9500/9600 NB multi above 9x. Run a real-life benchmark and you'll see no change in NB speeds above 9x multi for Phenom 9500/9600 but you'll see big changes for 9600BE above 9x multi. Because for 9500/9600, they're not changing but they are for 9600BE.

Already done many tests many pages back in this and a few other threads.
The last time I tried NB oc was with the BE:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=958
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=961
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=964

Do some real application tests and check the results. Higher NB will be better results. Easy way to check is, run EVEREST mem/cache bandwidth and it'll show a high NB compared to a low one easily.

Max is 9x NB on Phenom 9500/9600, that's why you can't move HT above 9x on any MB with those CPUs. And max you'll have with stock NB volts is lower than what you get with the 9600 BE with added voltage/multi. Phenoms that can have plus 9x NB multi can run higher HT multi easily, like 9600BE. If you have a 9600BE, try it.

My 9600BE boots 250HT ref. max at 9x NB multi.
9500 did 272HT ref. max at 6x NB multi.