well gents, i decided to give this board another go and the new one showed up today with a beautiful C1 for the Phenoms. with the 3200+, however, i am up and clocking like it should. that first board being stuck at 133MHz HTT was just a borked board.

it came out of the box on the 11/22 BIOS so i am going to leave it on that for now with the 3200+ while i get to know the board then i will tackle the Phenoms on it. just wanted to say thanks again for the help the other day and i am sure i will be posting results/asking questions soon enough.