Phenom 9500 @ 2.8 in M2n-SLI deluxe.

[dcfan60]

So how do you solved core2 issue? RMA?

RMA was the only way. I was able to get 2.4Ghz on Core 0,1,3 and 2.05 in core 2.

[mrcmtl]

what NB speed do you have now?

[dcfan60]

what NB speed do you have now?

2296Mhz on the NB.
I read in some forum or some website ( I cant rember if it was here or not) that there was theory that the NB was the Bottle neck in the proccessor for Overclocking and performance, since it locked at 9x in the 9500 and 9600 and 9600BE.
You can Change it in some of the High-end AMD 790 Mobos in the Bios, its a little tricky at first since you get your NB multi by dividing some two numbers... the New-er AMD OverDrive versions have that option but it does not work as of yet.
Unfortunately I cant experiment with this to see if It's as the theory claims "a Performance and OC bottle neck" an none seem to report on it so Far.
I think it is a Performance Bottle-neck but from my experience with the Bad 9500 phenom. I think the OC of the NB is affected by the OC or stability of all your CPUs. With all good cores I can reach 255Mhz stable compared to the 230Mhz.

sorry for rambling on about NB subject, but I think your question was a good excuse for me to talk about it.

[KTE]

can you run bandwidth shots, pref with sisoft though i can install something else to compare. AOD says memory is single channel, only getting around 5000mb/s bandwidth and the comparitive 9700 listed in sisoft gets almost 10k.

Latest Sandra should show around 9k for stock 800 4-4-4-12 2T Phenom and AOD will wrongly report single channel but Memset, EVEREST, CPUZ won't.

Yes, stock Phenoms at 1066 5-5-5-15 will get plus 10k in Sandra.

CPU-Z Validation
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=308022

Prime 95
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...an60/prime.jpg

How many hours have you ran small FFT stable and your temps? That shows just starting. I'd like to know what is stable mainly, upto 2.8-3.2G ss/benching is found on most Phenoms.

I'll run as many Benchmarks as I can. it just takes some time.

Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 1M is a 30s bench at max and wPrime 1.55 32M is less than 15s. Run these when you can please.

One things. do you guys see the Vcore reported by CPU-Z? its say 1.328... yeah as soon as I started runnig a Prime it drops Straight to 1.34 from 1.39 and the it fluctuated from 1.34 to 1.318 and all setting are the same as before.

That's how it's supposed to be, although that droop is high. You're at 1.392V but the load vdroop kicks in to put it low. Near to 1.37V would be much better.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/Bandwith.jpg

My memory is actualy runnig at 678Mhz (I know it crappy but its 667Mhz Ram and it hapes beeing OCed more than 750)
HT is at 1275Mhz
5-5-4-15 for the Ram and its @ 2T
4x 1GB for a total of 4GB

Its a OK score.... I think(hope)

Ditto.

2296Mhz on the NB.
I read in some forum or some website ( I cant rember if it was here or not) that there was theory that the NB was the Bottle neck in the proccessor for Overclocking and performance, since it locked at 9x in the 9500 and 9600 and 9600BE.

It's not a theory, it's fact anyone with Phenom will tell you. Drop the NB multi to sub 8x and your CPU may well get to 3.0G the way it looks.

And 9600BE doesn't have NB multi locked upwards, 9500/9600 do.

Unfortunately I cant experiment with this to see if It's as the theory claims "a Performance and OC bottle neck" an none seem to report on it so Far.

It's already well established NB increases perf. and memory performance especially. Run a Pi 32M at high MHz with your NB speed/RAM speed and I'll run one at the same MHz/settings for all but increase NB speed. Watch the gain.

Spend many weeks on Phenom before concluding anything. It's an odd CPU and a new architecture, not K8 or C2.

[mrcmtl]

hey KTE, do you know any way of changing NB multi on an AM2 board?

[dcfan60]

Spend many weeks on Phenom before concluding anything. It's an odd CPU and a new architecture, not K8 or C2.

yeah I think the same thing. its full of new behaviors and bottlenecks. until we get a more mature Stepping like B3 or at least we hope we can start seeing more common results rather than such randomness. I also thinks its the Motheboards too, Im hopping Nvidia 780a will pwn some face and give us more setting to play arround with and not have to pay over $200 a for a freaking Mobo that has 4 PCI-E x16 slots that most of us will never use. I run 8800GTS in SLI. so as long as its got 2 PCI-E im good to go.

Im Kinda bored right now so im gonna try to see if I can get this baby at 2.9Ghz. i'll be back with the results in about an hour.

*****update
cant go anything higher that 260Mhz on the FSB for a total of 2.85 the Proc seems stable but as soon as I anything thats memory instansive I crash Hard.
Its kinda what I was expecting since the M2n-SLI Deluxe is not the OCers mobo of choise and it was my only choise that I could afford if I wanted to keep SLI go Phenom. 2.8Ghz phenom is fun for me.... for now....

[gOtVoltage]

yeah I think the same thing. its full of new behaviors and bottlenecks. until we get a more mature Stepping like B3 or at least we hope we can start seeing more common results rather than such randomness. I also thinks its the Motheboards too, Im hopping Nvidia 780a will pwn some face and give us more setting to play arround with and not have to pay over $200 a for a freaking Mobo that has 4 PCI-E x16 slots that most of us will never use. I run 8800GTS in SLI. so as long as its got 2 PCI-E im good to go.

Im Kinda bored right now so im gonna try to see if I can get this baby at 2.9Ghz. i'll be back with the results in about an hour.

*****update
cant go anything higher that 260Mhz on the FSB for a total of 2.85 the Proc seems stable but as soon as I anything thats memory instansive I crash Hard.
Its kinda what I was expecting since the M2n-SLI Deluxe is not the OCers mobo of choise and it was my only choise that I could afford if I wanted to keep SLI go Phenom. 2.8Ghz phenom is fun for me.... for now....

Give yourself a Big pat on the Back

2.7 is a huge Goal with a Phenom and AM2+ mobo even

[KTE]

hey KTE, do you know any way of changing NB multi on an AM2 board?

Yes, the good 'ol oc'ing ways.

Check SoldnerMofo's thread on his 2.9-3GHz 9500, which has the instructions on using WPCREDIT in the OS to change NB multiplier after rebooting and not booting into the BIOS but directly into the OS. Opening CPUZ will (or should) show the NB speed and the NB multi will be changed.

I wrote a lengthy reply before this but my Fx crashed and I'e lost it with the links, sorry.

yeah I think the same thing. its full of new behaviors and bottlenecks. until we get a more mature Stepping like B3 or at least we hope we can start seeing more common results rather than such randomness. I also thinks its the Motheboards too, Im hopping Nvidia 780a will pwn some face and give us more setting to play arround with and not have to pay over $200 a for a freaking Mobo that has 4 PCI-E x16 slots that most of us will never use. I run 8800GTS in SLI. so as long as its got 2 PCI-E im good to go.

Your board lacks Ganged/Unganged mode, split power planes, HT 3.0 and PCIe 2.0 options, right?

*****update
cant go anything higher that 260Mhz on the FSB for a total of 2.85 the Proc seems stable but as soon as I anything thats memory instansive I crash Hard.
Its kinda what I was expecting since the M2n-SLI Deluxe is not the OCers mobo of choise and it was my only choise that I could afford if I wanted to keep SLI go Phenom. 2.8Ghz phenom is fun for me.... for now....

Nb multi?
If you say 9x, then I reckon it'll go higher like with everyone elses who had a 9500/9600.

Any 3dMark06, Cinebench 10, POV-Ray benchmarks at 2.8G?

As for stability, only factory like stability is stable TBH but being able to run benchmarks at an unstable setting is always handy.

Best AM2 MHz I've seen with Phenom yet though.

[dcfan60]

Yes, the good 'ol oc'ing ways.
Your board lacks Ganged/Unganged mode, split power planes, HT 3.0 and PCIe 2.0 options, right?

Oh yeah. M2n-sli deluxe is a AM2 socket and aNvidia 570sli chipset im even runnig at 8x PCI-E when I run SLI. this board is now of the first 570-sli mobos if not mistaken.




Im donwloading 3dmark06. I run a score with the SLI and sigle.