Q4 2007 GPU shipments

[v_rr]

if you know read maybe that post doesn´t even exist, but it´s very hard to talk to people the don´t even know read a single simple post

Comparing Q3 2007 to Q4 2007:

Overall:
ATI grew from 19.1% -> 22.8% (up 3,7%)

Desktop:
ATI grew from 17.5% -> 19% (up 1,5%)

Mobile:
ATI grew from 23.4% -> 29% (up 6,4%)

[saaya]

if you know read maybe that post doesn´t even exist, but it´s very hard to talk to people the don´t even know read a single simple post

Comparing Q3 2007 to Q4 2007:

Overall:
ATI grew from 19.1% -> 22.8% (up 3,7%)

Desktop:
ATI grew from 17.5% -> 19% (up 1,5%)

Mobile:
ATI grew from 23.4% -> 29% (up 6,4%)

thank you i can read, and instead of insulting somebody for not reading your post you might want to make sure you read and understood HIS post.

they didnt win any market share compared to last year
they actually lost market share but then managed to regain it and come out even compared to last year. thats what im referring to. the conclusion gives it a positive spin like ati is winning market share, when actually all they did was regain market share they had lost in the quarter(s) before.

[v_rr]

thank you i can read, and instead of insulting somebody for not reading your post you might want to make sure you read and understood HIS post.

they didnt win any market share compared to last year
they actually lost market share but then managed to regain it and come out even compared to last year. thats what im referring to. the conclusion gives it a positive spin like ati is winning market share, when actually all they did was regain market share they had lost in the quarter(s) before.

And since when you make a yearly comparison when you have quarter by quarter comparisons?
It´s a much more acurate info and you can analise market much better.

ATI in 1 quarter recover from losses of 3 quarters before, and Nvidia droped in 1 quarter from 3 awsome quarters before. In a year-year comparison you can´t see these flutuations.

Say more than this is playing at fanboy wars. Also you still don´t know read beacause ther is refered the comparison Q3 -> Q4 2007.
And yes ATI gained market share comparing Q3-> Q4, and this will let you "predict" the tendence of the market to Q1 2008. Nvidia finish 2007 going down and ATI finish 2007 going up.
Probably same will happen in Q1 2008 with this market tendency and Nvidia product delays.

Anywhere special in China? I am in Shenzhen right now...and I havent seen RS780 based stuff anywhere in the electronic shops here, or in Guangzhou.

Read those Chinese reviews. They probably will say that.

[Shintai]

Read those Chinese reviews. They probably will say that.

Can you elaborate what reviews? Currently no review seen said they are being sold anywhere.

So if you know they are being sold, can you atleast show it? We dont have much else to do than visit shops here. Since China is one big deepfreezer and almost everything stands still with 100000s of people waiting to get home for spring festival.

I could easily pick some home then.

[Krizby87]

And since when you make a yearly comparison when you have quarter by quarter comparisons?
It´s a much more acurate info and you can analise market much better.

ATI in 1 quarter recover from losses of 3 quarters before, and Nvidia droped in 1 quarter from 3 awsome quarters before. In a year-year comparison you can´t see these flutuations.

Say more than this is playing at fanboy wars. Also you still don´t know read beacause ther is refered the comparison Q3 -> Q4 2007.
And yes ATI gained market share comparing Q3-> Q4, and this will let you "predict" the tendence of the market to Q1 2008. Nvidia finish 2007 going down and ATI finish 2007 going up.
Probably same will happen in Q1 2008 with this market tendency and Nvidia product delays.

Read those Chinese reviews. They probably will say that.

Yay, let's see when ATI recover money losses from 3 previous quarters in one quarter, that's what matter anyways. Apple has like 5% of the personal computing market and they make a crapload of money all year rounds, and I absolutely detest it >_>.

[saaya]

And since when you make a yearly comparison when you have quarter by quarter comparisons?

uhm, thats the common thing to do and its done for all financial results companies publish?
its done this time as well, they mentioned the year to year and quarter to quarter results...

It´s a much more acurate info and you can analise market much better.

yes and no, as i said, from the conclusion they made it looks like ati grew a lot when they actually recovered from market share losses. which is great, the gains they achieved in one quarter are really good and i think they did a great job with the 3800 series... but you have to see things in perspective and the final conclusion here should be "ati managed to recover their market share within only one quarter" which is still good news. the conclusion they posted is making things look as good as possible, which is misleading and you shouldnt talk to your investors that way.

ATI in 1 quarter recover from losses of 3 quarters before, and Nvidia droped in 1 quarter from 3 awsome quarters before. In a year-year comparison you can´t see these flutuations.

i never said quarter to quarter results dont matter... all i said was quarter to quarter isnt everything and was surprised that the conclusion of the numbers was based ONLY on the q to q results and not y to y + q to q.

Say more than this is playing at fanboy wars. Also you still don´t know read beacause ther is refered the comparison Q3 -> Q4 2007.

uhm... yes i know, i read that and referred to it... why do you think i didnt read it? and why do you keep insulting me with stupid comments like "you cant read"? take a chill pill man!

And yes ATI gained market share comparing Q3-> Q4, and this will let you "predict" the tendence of the market to Q1 2008. Nvidia finish 2007 going down and ATI finish 2007 going up.
Probably same will happen in Q1 2008 with this market tendency and Nvidia product delays.

i know, again, i never said q to q doesnt matter...