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    Quote Originally Posted by sesdave View Post
    This utility to make you USB bootable for future flashes should help ease the pain http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...X-UNITY-I23839
    I also noticed that my CPU temp reported 10c higher than 0402 did with 0404 but I am only concerned with Copretemps which were reported the same - running 33c on my Q6600 idle air 60c load. Using PC Wizard to report temps. My old E6600 on a P5W DH used to need BIOS settings of vcore 1.5v (vdroop was higher than premium) FSB =1.3, NB=1.55,SB=1.2 to run 400x9. That idled 46c load 60c lapped with an Arctic Freezer Pro with AS5. I now use MX-2 as no cure time. Check your HS seating - if 65c is the Core load temp that seems high for water cooling at the speed your running at. A lot of the E6600 weren't capable of 3.6 whatever the volts - from what I remember they did run pretty hot as you pumped the volts up!. I would also run T2 until you get your o/c stable .

    Thanks For the link (Sesdave) I installed coretemp now also as I am using vista 64 I did not really want to deal with that F8 option boot to disable driver signing thing, but I did it anyway so I could prime test last night. WAAHHH HOOO ! STABLE!! My temp with core temp fully loaded was about 60C and Idle temp is at about 32C.

    Oh ya PCmark 6 did 10900 I am not reall sure yet if thats good and I have not done softside sandra bandwith test yet but when I get all the test in and finish up tweaking I will post them.

    The one thing is I am sure, the TT tribe unit is a childs toy not a real water system the pump is one of the slowest units TT ever made and the rad is no great thing either the only reason I bought it was I got it last year when I was OC,ing my AMD sandy core and it was on closeout for $40 after a rebate. Since the unit served me well but its days are numbered and the water block is OK but again 1/4 lines? Yuck !

    I am using Zalman grease and did reset the water block on the cpu once and did see that helped. I think the grease had somehow settled over the year since I used it, so I gave it a stir with a toothpick, re-applyed and it seemed to work much better after that. I want to try The liqiud metal stuff next when I set up my new cooling and lap the CPU.

    I have not been using T1 timings yet in this bios and have added no voltage and feel sure with good cooling and some added voltage here and there I should see some great results with this chip revision B2 Stepping 6 . I believe B2 chips have done pretty well. My CPU Voltage seems right dead @1.3 on auto. I am sure that a 1 GHZ overclock is sure with nothing more to do but a bump more in FSB but I will withhold from that untill better cooling is installed.

    P5K p Vdroop whats that? *lol* the best thing about this board is thats all but history it may be a pain in the arse to work the bugs out on this thing but its the king of Vcore damping.


    Again Thanks big time for your help!!!
    This Forum Rocks I mostly sandbagged here in the past because my last system was not so Extreme.
    Motherboard Asus P6T deluxe V1 1303 bios
    CPU I7 920 CO 1.35 volts 4.0 GHZ
    Memory 6GB CORSAIR TR3X6G1600C8D
    Video Card Asus Hd 4870x2 Swiftech Caldera 4870X2 block
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    PSU COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-C50-EMBA-D2 1250W
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    Primochill Typhoon III, Feser 360 Black Ice 240,Laing D5 Pump and Swiftech Mcw30 north bridge block
    Monitor Samsung Syncmaster T240 Touch of Color
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    My Latest clock of the E8700

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearlessleader View Post
    Thanks For the link (Sesdave) I installed coretemp now also as I am using vista 64 I did not really want to deal with that F8 option boot to disable driver signing thing, but I did it anyway so I could prime test last night. WAAHHH HOOO ! STABLE!! My temp with core temp fully loaded was about 60C and Idle temp is at about 32C.

    Again Thanks big time for your help!!!
    This Forum Rocks I mostly sandbagged here in the past because my last system was not so Extreme.
    Glad you made progress. The MB really shows its stuff best with a Q6600 though. Be suprised if you make 3.6 on an E6600 with less than 1.45v - things must have improved since I had one-lol! I wouldnt bother with the liquid pro - really messy to get on and off for little gain if any over latest non conductive pastes. Check them out instead - especially with a water block. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1831. Do a razor check on the CPU before you consider lapping - if its not concave and flat already its probably not worth the effort lapping . Try PCwizard for displaying temps - no F8 driversigning problems. Its neat and displays more than coretemps on screen when minimised. http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php
    Last edited by sesdave; 01-21-2008 at 03:24 PM.
    Q6600 - L729A959
    VID1.2625 @3.72GHz (465x8) 1.4625v(BIOS)
    P5K Premium (0702 BIOS)
    Win7 Ultimate x64
    Ultima-90
    4x1GB Ballistix 8500C5 @ 1166 5-5-5-12 2.2v
    MSI 5770 Hawk 1030/1330 - 1.25v
    2 x Hitachi T7K500 320MB - Matrix RAID 0/1
    Hiper Type R 680w

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    Quote Originally Posted by sesdave View Post
    Glad you made progress. The MB really shows its stuff best with a Q6600 though. Be suprised if you make 3.6 on an E6600 with less than 1.45v - things must have improved since I had one-lol! I wouldnt bother with the liquid pro - really messy to get on and off for little gain if any over latest non conductive pastes. Check them out instead - especially with a water block. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1831. Do a razor check on the CPU before you consider lapping - if its not concave and flat already its probably not worth the effort lapping . Try PCwizard for displaying temps - no F8 driversigning problems. Its neat and displays more than coretemps on screen when minimised. http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php

    I think this board and chip still have a bit more to offer and as I test I will glad to give my findings. I don't really think the Q6600 can bring anything more to the table because it's really the same core, just 2 more of them on one die. Which means more heat!! and I need to do some testing with the E6850 chip first but I think the same will hold true faster cores often have less headroom or little more to gain. I at least saw this with this board already with a e6700 that I have tested too. It seemed to me both where being limited only by my cooling solution not the board or memory. Heat has been the only reason I did not push any one of the chips more that I have so far.


    I will give that Grease a try. The price is cheap enough, the Zalman I am using is real good but I have a feeling that it just got old and seperated and settled. So I thought to give something else a try, so this sounds good.

    I really liked Coretemp they just need to get the driver signed to make it great. I like real simple program for simple tasks. Speedfan was nice and I still use it now for just every day use and keep in mind how much its off. I will try the PCwizard too.

    I will check the cpu with a straight edge for flat but I just thought that the polished surface helped too. Also it don't cost much but a bit of time and every little bit helps. That was why I thought lap the block the cpu and use the liquid pro, If I get 2C for each thing I just get 6c cooler. Just my 2 cents
    Last edited by Fearlessleader; 01-21-2008 at 11:08 PM.
    Motherboard Asus P6T deluxe V1 1303 bios
    CPU I7 920 CO 1.35 volts 4.0 GHZ
    Memory 6GB CORSAIR TR3X6G1600C8D
    Video Card Asus Hd 4870x2 Swiftech Caldera 4870X2 block
    Hard drive Velociraptor 300gb
    PSU COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-C50-EMBA-D2 1250W
    DVD TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B
    Case CM Stacker Aluminum
    Water cooling custom Dual loop
    Primochill Typhoon III, Feser 360 Black Ice 240,Laing D5 Pump and Swiftech Mcw30 north bridge block
    Monitor Samsung Syncmaster T240 Touch of Color
    OS Win 7 Ultimate Retail

    My Latest clock of the E8700

    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=892338

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearlessleader View Post
    I think this board and chip still have a bit more to offer and as I test I will glad to give my findings. I will check the cpu with a straight edge for flat but I just thought that the polished surface helped too. Also it don't cost much but a bit of time and every little bit helps. That was why I thought lap the block the cpu and use the liquid pro, If I get 2C for each thing I just get 6c cooler. Just my 2 cents
    Dont disagree and the MB will be good for some time yet - I still have an E6850 but 4 cores better than 2 going forward - it wont just be for video rendering/editing - future games are going to be designed around multithreading. They give out a fair bit of heat when o/c but not any more than the E6600 from my experience. They need less volts for higher o/c and thats with 4 cores. The GO's are achieving 3.6 on air as the norm with around 1.4v or less with some going to 4.0GHz with later batches of GO SLACRs. Check out this thread for overclocking experiences if you are tempted cos they are cheap http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=152603
    If you are going to lap heres a nice guide - http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...hlight=lapping
    but I am sure you must have done it on the opterons unless you were popping the IHS . Flat not shiny is the primary objective -its just looks prettier after all that elbow grease as I found out -lol! Worth reading the rest of www.thetechrepository.com as it has alot of useful info - like running MBM5 under vista x64. If you have nothing else to do this is fun for improving disk resilience/performance http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=467848 . A lot of people discovered they had a AHCI/RAID problem on the premium with the ICH9 controller - I was lucky as my board doesnt. If you are already running AHCI it should be fine to try this.
    Last edited by sesdave; 01-22-2008 at 04:42 AM.
    Q6600 - L729A959
    VID1.2625 @3.72GHz (465x8) 1.4625v(BIOS)
    P5K Premium (0702 BIOS)
    Win7 Ultimate x64
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    4x1GB Ballistix 8500C5 @ 1166 5-5-5-12 2.2v
    MSI 5770 Hawk 1030/1330 - 1.25v
    2 x Hitachi T7K500 320MB - Matrix RAID 0/1
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    Quote Originally Posted by sesdave View Post
    . A lot of people discovered they had a AHCI/RAID problem on the premium with the ICH9 controller - I was lucky as my board doesnt. If you are already running AHCI it should be fine to try this.
    I don't have the raid problem. I just use my one lonley Raptor for my OS and 2 arrays wit PCI Cards. Hardware is getting to the point you can not depend on it and onboard raid is useless when the board goes down or you want to make a change most time your raid data will be a loss. The way I do it, no problem take the card the raid and put it where ever you go. I whould not for any reason ever be use onboard raid. I would like to see them do away with all that onboard junk they put on nowdays, its all low quality stuff anyway losy sound cards. If onboard video was never any good what make anyone think onboard raid is any better or onboard sound. All that onboard stuff does is work the southbridge and northbidge to death I never thought I would see a day I would think to add cooling to my south bridge *ROFL*

    Hay Sesdave gotta Run man if I don't get my wifes PC back up today she will kick my backside Just got her RMA'ed MSI P35 Back the Fedex guy was just here.
    I finish this when I get some time She"s cracking the whip

    Later
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    Motherboard Asus P6T deluxe V1 1303 bios
    CPU I7 920 CO 1.35 volts 4.0 GHZ
    Memory 6GB CORSAIR TR3X6G1600C8D
    Video Card Asus Hd 4870x2 Swiftech Caldera 4870X2 block
    Hard drive Velociraptor 300gb
    PSU COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-C50-EMBA-D2 1250W
    DVD TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B
    Case CM Stacker Aluminum
    Water cooling custom Dual loop
    Primochill Typhoon III, Feser 360 Black Ice 240,Laing D5 Pump and Swiftech Mcw30 north bridge block
    Monitor Samsung Syncmaster T240 Touch of Color
    OS Win 7 Ultimate Retail

    My Latest clock of the E8700

    http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=892338

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearlessleader View Post
    I don't have the raid problem.
    Hay Sesdave gotta Run man if I don't get my wifes PC back up today she will kick my backside Just got her RMA'ed MSI P35 Back the Fedex guy was just here.
    I finish this when I get some time She"s cracking the whip

    Later
    Peace Out
    Forgot you had RAID cards - rock on! I also know who runs this house and it aint me-lol!
    Q6600 - L729A959
    VID1.2625 @3.72GHz (465x8) 1.4625v(BIOS)
    P5K Premium (0702 BIOS)
    Win7 Ultimate x64
    Ultima-90
    4x1GB Ballistix 8500C5 @ 1166 5-5-5-12 2.2v
    MSI 5770 Hawk 1030/1330 - 1.25v
    2 x Hitachi T7K500 320MB - Matrix RAID 0/1
    Hiper Type R 680w

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