**Official DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Brother Esau]

I don't know what they are doing with the Bios one way or another they are all atrocious with the way they are written and all release whether it be official or Beta they all have issues on some level but I know this much the USB Keyboard issues with this SB600 controller leave allot to be desired and need to be corrected as a top priority or one of them anyway!

I still cant believe these Bios are coming from the same people that have written all of the P35 Bios which were all on the Caliper of the Expert/Venus Bios quality.

[willyK]

Apparently there are still issues with AMD Overdrive and this Board as well even on Current 12/21/07 Beta I still get Lock Ups just by opening the Program this is with Optimized Defaults set in Bios too! I don't quite know where to point the Finger at that one whether its a Bios Issue or on a Software Level or Both.[/B]

So if any of you gents could confirm any of these findings that I have just mentioned Especially the Load Optimized Defaults in Bios and Immediately after that re configure you're overclock Save / Exit and see if its a issue beyond my experience we could really help this along with some hard info to submit to D.F.I so we can get a really Stellar Official Bios Release in a Timely fashion.

Thank You.......................Campbell

Bro Esau, you should be able to run AOD 2.0.9. I had the same issues with Windows freezing up while AOD was initializing using either 2.0.10 or 2.0.14. Reading a random thread here and there on different forums, the later AOD releases seem to be for optimization with Phenom + 790FX.

2.0.9 doesn't recognize my 5000+ as being a Black Edition, and there's also some issue with reading proper core temps:



Looks like 2nd core is roughly 4.3 billion degrees C.

I'm guessing this is the whole Brisbane temp sensing issue, which you shouldn't have a problem with.

I could even increase the cpu multiplier through AOD, which I thought was a feature strictly for Phenoms only, but this was only stable up to x14.5. Setting the multiplier to 15 caused reboot:



You can of course set the multiplier higher in the BIOS and still get 100% stability at stock voltage.

Anyway though, this indicates to me that compatibility with AOD is a software issue with AMD, not a BIOS issue with DFI.

Has anyone using this board + Phenom tried adjusting voltages or frequencies through AOD?

[Brother Esau]

Hey thanks I have used version 2.9 it comes on the DFI Disk and it no likes me I am sure of it Actually its a combination of both Bios and Software not interfacing correctly together allot attributed to source code in desperate need of updating on AMD/Awards part.........As for AMD OD....I am scared to use it actually, if it were as stable and mature as Uguru is then I may consider it ,,,but its not!

[Iketh]

would u believe my pc2-8500 crucial ballistix died overnight running f@h at 5-5-5-15 494mhz 2.16v bios ?? thank god i have a pair of g.skill pc2-6400 to run atm, and it's running the same settings at only 2.12v

[Brother Esau]

Now I have warned you gentlemen that the 1/03/2008 Beta Bios is Bugged and it should be avoided.
Sorry to hear that Iketh

EDIT: Both 12/21/07 & 1/03/08 Beta Bios have issues with Vdimm table and also Weak/Normal drive section! I have noticed that after 11/22/07 Official there seems to be a running pattern with the Bios in the Vdimm settings once you into the (Red) Section 2.21Vdimm there are issues utilizing vdimm setting Highlighted in (RED)


D.F.I when are you going to dedicate some time and release a worth while Bios that clears up USB issues , PCI-E 2.0 Slight Refresh Issue when opening Bios with New ATI Cards , Voltage regulation , Proper source Code Update in Bios for Phenom and new Architecture and new generation PCI-E 2.0 better support is needed

[Nedjo]

would u believe my pc2-8500 crucial ballistix died overnight running f@h at 5-5-5-15 494mhz 2.16v bios ?? thank god i have a pair of g.skill pc2-6400 to run atm, and it's running the same settings at only 2.12v

I was running my PC-6400 EPP Ballistix @ 1066 CL5-5-5-16 (mobo doesn't giving me 15tRAS) settings with 2.0V (real 2.04) w/o problems with that BIOS version for some time. Didn't noticed any problems.

Never the less, DFI should definitely dedicate some time in development of the BIOS for this mobo.

[G-UNIT91]

Good "Coin Up" and get me a Phenom 9600 BE and I will give you a review

This is a bad idea!

[G-UNIT91]

I don't have time for full featuredreview, but if you would be specific what do you wan to know, I might help...

I wanted know the max frequency ROCK SOLID with DFI 790FX.....

THX

[Brother Esau]

Well like I have said in the past I really don't think the current Phenom offerings from AMD are good for anything but stock set up or maybe max 200 mhz over rated spec 24/7 stable this is going by what I see consistantly from very dedicated people working on Debugging the Phenom issue

[Iketh]

yea it was 5-5-5-16... previous to 1/3/08, u could run <15tras below 501mhz... 1/3/08 now forces >16 into the 480s, havent tested the exact number

[Brother Esau]

Check you latency setting by default in that Bios on my Ram it tagged it a 9ns where as prior Bios it was 8ns left at auto. IMO the Ram Bandwidth is clocked down on that Beta and there are NIC issues as well with it!

This Bios situation with this board is becoming beyond a joke anymore! For Christ sakes 12/11/07 is not even a Official its a Beta Bios so that means that my current 11/22/07 is the Last Official release not 12/11/07

[KTE]

AOD/5000+ BE is not problematic on the GBT/MSI boards, so it maybe a board compatibility issue.

[Brother Esau]

Hey, Tye Yes unfortunately its D.F.I Bios issues and they need to be addressed like yesterday . Kind of hard for me to really say or compare as I have no Phenom and yes I know you said (5000 BE) but I am also convinced not sure though that AOD revolves around Phenom or is meant to at least


D.F.I could we please get another Real Official Release such as the 11/22/07 Bios and not a phony front like the 12/11/07 Beta

[Iketh]

something that keeps popping into my mind when i think about overclocking my specific phenom cpu is i was able to use and o/c it on asus m2n-e (AM2) board and, later, this DFI... the m2n-e refused to post at 236 ref and 235 was not 100% stable... i find it more than a coincidence that i cannot get past 234 ref with utter stability on both boards, and believe it's a possibility these first phenoms will not clock higher

the other possibility is the asus and dfi boards are handling the phenom nearly identically, meaning they're using a bios code reference from AMD and bios programmers are still learning how to handle the phenom in their own way

[=[PULSAR]=]

okay I was just installing the new cat 8.1 drivers and mid install my system crashed and wont boot up at all. The system fans will wine up die down and wine up again every once in a while and have gotten into BIOS once in the past hour all my periphreals are unplug and only one 3870 in...any ideas?

[Brother Esau]

Thats odd Did you use Driver Cleaner after you uninstalled them

[=[PULSAR]=]

did even finish the install it crashed before it ended

[Brother Esau]

I didn't ask you that How did you uninstall them?

[=[PULSAR]=]

i never uninstalled them, you think if I get in I should go back to the 11/22 bios

[=[PULSAR]=]

alright well I disconnected everything and I'm just going to let it sit for a day and set it up again to see if that will work.

[Brother Esau]

You're supposed to Uninstall the the Catalyst Drivers via the ATI Uninstall utility then reboot into safe mode and use driver cleaner to get all of the registry entries left behind then boot back into windows and Install new Drivers.

If you are using dual core yes 11/22/07 is what you want to use as the others have problems and I have mentioned this like 20 times already in this thread so people would not screw their Boards up because I can just reprogram the Bios chip on the Programmer that I have.


If you have ended up Screwing up you're Bios chip contact me through PM I Program and sell Bios chips!

[Brother Esau]

OK.......What you want to do if you cannot get into Bios is do a minimum system component run!

First Unplug the PSU wait 1/2hr unplug the 24pin power lead and 8pin CPU Power Lead from the Board and take out both sticks of Ram, Remove the Battery and place the Jumper in the Clear Position and let it sit over night!

The Following Day Plug both power leads back into the mobo , Place one stick of Ram in the slot closest to the Cpu , and only one GFX Card , replace the battery and move the cmos Jumper back to normal position, and only connect tthe monitor and a PS/2 Keyboard upon Booting up hold the Insert and Home key down and let it boot and release both keys and it should boot!

Good Luck and please follow those instructions to the Tee if not I will program you a Bios chip if it does not work.

[Brother Esau]

Did you get you're Mobo sorted out?

[=[PULSAR]=]

I got it booted right now...working on rolling back the BIOS

[Brother Esau]

I would make sure that you were stable Mable first and foremost!

P.S......On the First Page of this thread I have Bios Template settings for 3400mhz as well as 3500mhz you should use them as reference for Voltage setting for you're board!