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    BTW, Super Pi 1M is like this at stock with 9600 BE (CAS4 because I don't want to reboot to change it to 3 and be stuck with no boot again).
    2300MHz all cores, 1800MHz NB/HT, 400 4-3-3-3-11 1T RAM: 32.843s



    PP: 75,539

    No CDT/CW/Maxmem/theme/windows tweaks there, common windows run.

    I honestly feel tempted to throw max volts/vids at -20C and try the 47x multiplier with 200 HT ref..... 9400MHz LOL

    Do you like the wallpaper? I think it suits AOD quite nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    BTW, Super Pi 1M is like this at stock with 9600 BE (CAS4 because I don't want to reboot to change it to 3 and be stuck with no boot again).
    2300MHz all cores, 1800MHz NB/HT, 400 4-3-3-3-11 1T RAM: 32.843s



    PP: 75,539

    No CDT/CW/Maxmem/theme/windows tweaks there, common windows run.

    I honestly feel tempted to throw max volts/vids at -20C and try the 47x multiplier with 200 HT ref..... 9400MHz LOL

    Do you like the wallpaper? I think it suits AOD quite nicely.
    Wallpaper and AOD -perfect fit

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    Update

    Fellas, download EVEREST Ultimate latest beta (AFAIK) since from what I've heard, it supports Phenom fully and it does read much information more accurately than older versions.
    If you have the Fintek F71882/F71883 hardware monitoring Super I/O chip on-board then this supports reading it's sensors better (many boards, including MSI 790FX/650i/P965 etc).

    The latest beta I know of is v4.20 build 1227 as of 20th December: http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...lnzh2xsqaf.zip

    You can see the difference of beta build 1227 in my stock 9600 BE stress testing compared to 1183 beta:

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    Those are ~4 hr full load temps at stock settings with the lowest fan speed. As you can see, it is stable at 1.192V/1.184V real and 1.2VID. Software picks up those voltages correctly so when it was previously failing bootup the problem was 1.184V BIOS was 1.17xV real.
    Temperatures reported in AOD are IHS case temps whilst the highest one there is the internal core temp (off the Tjunction diode). K10 has 8 new thermal diodes inside the cores and 6 separate ones in the northbridge alone. EVEREST now reports both, the highest value reported is the one that decides CPU throttling and shut down (75C).

    EVEREST now also picks up Phenom values, RAM timings and DCT modes correctly:



    Since documentation was short for the exact Super I/O IC on this MB, I measured the various voltages and currents. The Fintek chip takes 10mA at 3.24V and pin ~97 is VCore, pins ~96-92 read different values usually picked up as VIN1/2/3/4.. and one of them is also the DRAM voltage (which HWM picks up). On my board, measuring just after the MOSFETs and the inductors compared to what the Super I/O chip reports is dead on, including measuring VDIMM at the DRAM MOSFETs being in sync. HWMonitor and EVEREST read exactly those values real-time, whereas AOD reads the BIOS/AOD set voltage values instead of real-time. Thus in reality I'm at 1.18V and 2.18V in the above stability testing.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaMulta View Post
    http://img.techpowerup.org/080114/4x4.jpg

    These are tracer 8000 512meg chips.

    Yes even with the 9500 installed.

    the spd of these chips
    http://img.techpowerup.org/080114/spd.jpg
    I have the 8500 with the same SPD. I don't get those low options that I wanted though and I've flashed different BIOSes over 14 times.
    Quote Originally Posted by justapost View Post
    My reply from yesterday got lost somehow.
    Hehe
    So clocks can be modified via MSR registers too. Great, I though it must be done with i2c/smbus.
    Not too sure yet.
    Will use the ITK/VTK toolkits together with CT's from the visible human project. So it will be platform indepenent and open source.
    Should work out very fine this way. Let me know when you have an alpha to test.
    Ordered the Big Typhoon, seems to have the best cooling results with ot so high temps.
    You have too much money.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swanie View Post
    Wallpaper and AOD -perfect fit
    I thought so too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    CPU Temp is TMPIN0 it seems. Same speedfan reports as Temp1 and the same Asus PcProbe report as CPU Temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonspd View Post
    Dual channel on GBHZ pc6400 2x1gb max benchable about 237x11 , ht 5x, NB around 1800, ram at around 800 using a divider 1.41 vcore, supier pi 1mb slower then a opty 170 at 30 sec, 16080 in 3dmark 05 200 points less then opty 170 again, havnt been able to figure if this ram is not work it or what it seemed to have done better with 5 5 5 18 ram instead of 4 4 4 12, ocz vs g-skill.
    Which BIOS did you use?
    I can't drop NB multi on mine below 9x, I get a no boot situation. Thus I can't test HT ref. max or single core or multi-core max because NB rises along with it. At 10x CPU multi and 9x NB/HT multi (1.34V), 230HT was easy: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=297594
    But it crashed on 236 HT (NB stock volts/VID was over 2.1GHz by then).

    You said the IMC on this thing sucks and that I can agree. Has you tried running really loose ram timings and see if it helps FSB and cpu clocks?
    Yep. But no real point since I booted/ran 560 4-4-4-4 with ease at the same RAM volts (2.2V) before, hence I can't see how 400 4-4-4-12 on RAM at 2.2V will hold it back. The Phenoms before this I've benched 530 4-4-4-4 2T at these volts (3D). I mean, we're talking about this RAM at 2.35V here.
    do you normaly used the cpu muilt at x2 in pstates? instead of divided by one?
    If I set a high FID/DID, I get a no boot situation. Can you set a high FID/DID and bootup?

    what about the NB muilt? same thing divided by 1 or 2 or 4 or 8.
    I use 1 for both because of the above reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by justapost View Post
    CPU Temp is TMPIN0 it seems. Same speedfan reports as Temp1 and the same Asus PcProbe report as CPU Temp.
    Load your CPU and see if it goes up in sync then.
    TMPIN0 is HWM/AOD reported temp, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    Load your CPU and see if it goes up in sync then.
    TMPIN0 is HWM/AOD reported temp, right?
    On the M3A it does and looking on your screeny it seems to be the same on the K9A2 P. I'm sure about AOD dont have HWM installed but I remember it was the same. I wonder why AOD shows the diode temp four times as there is only one diode for the cores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    Not too sure yet.
    I did some research for the clockchip of the tyan board i had for a while. Found docs for the clockchips with smbus registers.
    Can't be MSR registers, as those are locatet on the cpu, but there might be a pci interface for the chipset which can be used to modify the ref HT speed.
    Just guessin here.
    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    Should work out very fine this way. Let me know when you have an alpha to test.
    For sure i will but it might take some time.
    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    You have too much money.
    Cheaper than the CNPS9700 and ~3Euro more than the Thermalright Ultra-120 here.

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