So it seems that the clocks are all over the place, as expected. There were alot of great Conroes out of the group that were there during release week. My e6400 can barely do 3.2Ghz stable, others even with the same batch number could hit 3.6-3.8. The really bad clockers came around about two months after release and some couldn't get 3.0. I don't think that the Conroes at launch were that much worse clockers than the ESs. 3.8Ghz for a processor that has better performance per clock isn't that bad.