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    The 12M L2 should give it a nice boost also. i am very excited for the faster ands cooler chips
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    How high do you speculate I could get an E8400 on air cooling (parts listed in sig).
    Also, would having all 4 memory banks filled cause any problems?
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    I am planning to get a Q9550.Any speculations on how high could it go?You said 3.6 to 3.8 for Q9450

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    Quote "looking at it both the Q9xx and Xeon X3xx have identical specs and prices.
    the current X3xx Xeons are socket 775 chips. if these ones are too, whats the difference between them and the Q9xx chips."
    I read in custom PC that Xeon chips are optimised for servers;apparently the prefetchers are tuned for server type applications as opposed to desktop apps hence they can be up to 25% slower in games but faster in folding /cinebench. Can anyone here verify this?
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    I am planning to get a Q9550.Any speculations on how high could it go?You said 3.6 to 3.8 for Q9450
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170338

    How high do you speculate I could get an E8400 on air cooling (parts listed in sig).
    Also, would having all 4 memory banks filled cause any problems?
    I don’t really know but I’ll say 4500Mhz is reachable (on air), I saw the E8500 hitting 4550Mhz (on air), note that it has about 100Mhz more stock speed and 0.5 additional multiplier
    btw, Q9450 is my choice but I admit that E8400 is the smartest choice

    sits back to watch for some typical retail chip results for e8400 and q9450
    there is E8400 tests available now, actually it was the first one (after Q9650) that I saw...look'em up

    So maybe I'll be looking at a cheep Q6600 G0 instead of a Q9450, since my current B3 runs stupidly hot. And there will probably be a lot of cheap second hand Q6600's on the market soon, too.
    maybe, though I think when Q9450 enters TOM’s Hardware CPU chart it’ll be way above the Q6600

    Q9450 speed = FSB X 8 ………. Q9450 @ 4000Mhz means FSB = 500 (which is maybe the max that Yorkfields would reach)
    E8500 speed = FSB X 9.5 ………. E8500 @ 5000 means FSB = 526 (which is reachablefor the Wolfdale)


    I’m planning to keep the chip for about 4 years, so I think Q9450 is the best
    I think in 2009 the extra core’s will be working more and more so I don’t want to end up having only dual core’s at that time cuz I’m sure I’ll be forced to upgrade
    when I had a plan to wait for Nehalem I aimed at the E8500, but when I knew that Nehalem will have new different socket and when I started thinking about what’s really enough for a decent computing experience I realized the Q9450 is enough…it’s even enough at stock speed (for me)
    if you have short plans for the chip or frequently upgrade your rig go for the E8500 it’s a nice chip, though I don’t know why upgrading every 6 months, but anyway that’s a suppurate issue

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    Great info in this thread (at least for me). Thanks for starting it.

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    Q9450 would be my pick, otherwise i would pick the top Wolfdale...
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    Quote Originally Posted by firas View Post
    would this look better



    this is for notebooks

    from here
    off topic, but how did you get this format? the site looks nothing like that for me

    on topic, what's up with the QX9775 being LGA771?? is that a typo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lefy View Post
    off topic, but how did you get this format? the site looks nothing like that for me

    on topic, what's up with the QX9775 being LGA771?? is that a typo?
    it's "skulltrail CPU" (intel SLI dual socket mobo)
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    im looking at a 9450 myself... maybe im not buying yet, hopefully there will be better steppings and then i will buy... im guessing that my 1st gen q6600 is gonna stay with me for quite some time

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefy View Post
    off topic, but how did you get this format? the site looks nothing like that for me

    on topic, what's up with the QX9775 being LGA771?? is that a typo?
    I copied it to MS Word, re-formatted it, used virtual printer program (PDF Factory pro) to convert it to PDF, opened the PDF file with Photoshop, resized it then saved as JPG (I wanted to add the QX9650 but I’m too lazy)
    Last edited by firas; 01-11-2008 at 10:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firas View Post

    I’m planning to keep the chip for about 4 years, so I think Q9450 is the best
    Intel will never let that happen. Faster processors seem to know your name after the first price drop. 30% faster for the same price....that damn bug bites all of us every single time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSoMo View Post
    Intel will never let that happen. Faster processors seem to know your name after the first price drop. 30% faster for the same price....that damn bug bites all of us every single time.
    I said 4 years so it would sound ok, I’ll keep it @ stock speed for 4 years, then I’ll keep it for another 4 years @ 3600
    I know I can do that, that’s why my current 3.6Ghz old P4 still ok for me (with no OC) until now

    I wonder how much extra performance could:
    Q6600 + ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/WiFi (or any other X38 with DDR3 support) + 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR3@1600 ________ $260+$335+about $350 = $945
    Offer over this:
    Q6600 + GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L (or ABIT IP35) + 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2@800 (or @800 but OCable to 500Mhz)_$260+$100 (or 180) +$44 (or $70) = $404 (or $510)
    It could offer slightly better performance (talking about the real life not the benches) but is it worth it?

    my plan is:
    Q9450 + ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA + 4GB (2X2) DDR2@OCable to 500Mhz (mostly the G.Skill DDR2-1000)____let’s say $350 + $260 + $114 = $724

    MAXIMUS FORMULA will offer me:
    native support for the new 45nm processors (I guess the P35 does that but after updating the drivers)
    and PCI-E 2.0
    and I’ll go 5 loops with this thing (CPU+GPU+NB+SB+Mosfet1+Mosfet2 )
    and of course this board has proven that it worth the extra money

    but I admit that the $404 plan is a very smart one, it can even go cheaper if done with the new Wolfdale E8400 instead of the Q6600
    all those plans will offer a super computer/gaming experience specially when executed with a top-end graphic card (like the next GeForce 9800GX2)

    maybe that’ why manufacturers offer this plan:
    the worthless QX bla bla + the pointless DDR3 + top-end X38 (or even X48) = moahaha
    so people with a plan similar to mine would feel they haven’t done the most stupid plan

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    Wondering when or if they'll stick 2 yorkie dies together to go 8-core
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