The 12M L2 should give it a nice boost also. i am very excited for the faster ands cooler chips
The 12M L2 should give it a nice boost also. i am very excited for the faster ands cooler chips
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How high do you speculate I could get an E8400 on air cooling (parts listed in sig).
Also, would having all 4 memory banks filled cause any problems?
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I am planning to get a Q9550.Any speculations on how high could it go?You said 3.6 to 3.8 for Q9450
Quote "looking at it both the Q9xx and Xeon X3xx have identical specs and prices.
the current X3xx Xeons are socket 775 chips. if these ones are too, whats the difference between them and the Q9xx chips."
I read in custom PC that Xeon chips are optimised for servers;apparently the prefetchers are tuned for server type applications as opposed to desktop apps hence they can be up to 25% slower in games but faster in folding /cinebench. Can anyone here verify this?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170338I am planning to get a Q9550.Any speculations on how high could it go?You said 3.6 to 3.8 for Q9450
I don’t really know but I’ll say 4500Mhz is reachable (on air), I saw the E8500 hitting 4550Mhz (on air), note that it has about 100Mhz more stock speed and 0.5 additional multiplierHow high do you speculate I could get an E8400 on air cooling (parts listed in sig).
Also, would having all 4 memory banks filled cause any problems?
btw, Q9450 is my choice but I admit that E8400 is the smartest choice![]()
there is E8400 tests available now, actually it was the first one (after Q9650) that I saw...look'em upsits back to watch for some typical retail chip results for e8400 and q9450
maybe, though I think when Q9450 enters TOM’s Hardware CPU chart it’ll be way above the Q6600So maybe I'll be looking at a cheep Q6600 G0 instead of a Q9450, since my current B3 runs stupidly hot. And there will probably be a lot of cheap second hand Q6600's on the market soon, too.
Q9450 speed = FSB X 8 ………. Q9450 @ 4000Mhz means FSB = 500 (which is maybe the max that Yorkfields would reach)
E8500 speed = FSB X 9.5 ………. E8500 @ 5000 means FSB = 526 (which is reachablefor the Wolfdale)
I’m planning to keep the chip for about 4 years, so I think Q9450 is the best
I think in 2009 the extra core’s will be working more and more so I don’t want to end up having only dual core’s at that time cuz I’m sure I’ll be forced to upgrade
when I had a plan to wait for Nehalem I aimed at the E8500, but when I knew that Nehalem will have new different socket and when I started thinking about what’s really enough for a decent computing experience I realized the Q9450 is enough…it’s even enough at stock speed (for me)
if you have short plans for the chip or frequently upgrade your rig go for the E8500 it’s a nice chip, though I don’t know why upgrading every 6 months, but anyway that’s a suppurate issue
Great info in this thread (at least for me). Thanks for starting it.
Q9450 would be my pick, otherwise i would pick the top Wolfdale...
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im looking at a 9450 myself... maybe im not buying yet, hopefully there will be better steppings and then i will buy... im guessing that my 1st gen q6600 is gonna stay with me for quite some time
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I said 4 years so it would sound ok, I’ll keep it @ stock speed for 4 years, then I’ll keep it for another 4 years @ 3600
I know I can do that, that’s why my current 3.6Ghz old P4 still ok for me (with no OC) until now![]()
I wonder how much extra performance could:
Q6600 + ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/WiFi (or any other X38 with DDR3 support) + 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR3@1600 ________ $260+$335+about $350 = $945
Offer over this:
Q6600 + GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L (or ABIT IP35) + 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2@800 (or @800 but OCable to 500Mhz)_$260+$100 (or 180) +$44 (or $70) = $404 (or $510)
It could offer slightly better performance (talking about the real life not the benches) but is it worth it?
my plan is:
Q9450 + ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA + 4GB (2X2) DDR2@OCable to 500Mhz (mostly the G.Skill DDR2-1000)____let’s say $350 + $260 + $114 = $724
MAXIMUS FORMULA will offer me:
native support for the new 45nm processors (I guess the P35 does that but after updating the drivers)
and PCI-E 2.0
and I’ll go 5 loops with this thing (CPU+GPU+NB+SB+Mosfet1+Mosfet2 )
and of course this board has proven that it worth the extra money
but I admit that the $404 plan is a very smart one, it can even go cheaper if done with the new Wolfdale E8400 instead of the Q6600
all those plans will offer a super computer/gaming experience specially when executed with a top-end graphic card (like the next GeForce 9800GX2)
maybe that’ why manufacturers offer this plan:
the worthless QX bla bla + the pointless DDR3 + top-end X38 (or even X48) = moahaha
so people with a plan similar to mine would feel they haven’t done the most stupid plan
Wondering when or if they'll stick 2 yorkie dies together to go 8-core
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