Official GIGA P35-S3/DS3/DS3R/DS3P/DS4/DQ6 bios/info thread

[swaaye]

You trust auto-performance tuning? extreme? What does 9,8,7 mean?

It really affects RAM access latency big time. Everest's latency test will show you. It is separate from the other RAM timings.

[necron66]

About to install F9a for DS3P.

[[XC] 4X4N]

You trust auto-performance tuning? extreme? What does 9,8,7 mean?

It doesn't auto-tune as you say. All it is, is gigabytes way of setting performance level. As far as I've seen, it does not make any other changes. That is why I always have it at extreme. That's performance level 7. I have tried to lower it to level 6 with memset, but it hard locks every time.

[iandh]

Do you guys have to hit CTRL+F1 every time to access the settings in the BIOS or only once?


Also, I haven't had an Intel system in some time, and the NB cooler is feeling pretty toasty to me. I am at 370 right now, but am a bit scared to make the push to 400 and hit 3.6 on this cooler. Having a fan helps but I don't have a convenient method since I removed my side fan hole to install a window in my CM690.

I have a Whisper XE somewhere that I need to dig up, I'm sure that would do the trick.

How about cooling the mosfets around the socket? I'm using ramsinks right now... sufficient?

[[XC] DragonOrta]

Ramsinks will work fine. You have to hit CRTL+F1 everytime in BIOS, although a new BIOS might skip the need for CRTL+F1. The F7b BIOS I'm running on my DS3P shows timings in BIOS without hitting CRTL+F1.

I had a Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II on the NB which worked fine with a Q6600 running 450fsb with +2v to MCH.

[Getttosmurf]

damn i need a 1:1 divider for my Dq6 seems it doesnt like running 4x1GB over 500ish mhz really hurts my cpu oc = /

[tlac]

It's dated for Dec 14th...a bit after we notified them of the memtest bug....hopefully an F11 is in the works to fix the bug....thanks for the update!

f11 works without this error

[BTK]

new rev 2.1 out for p35/c-ds3r that adds a power saver featrure

p35-ds3r rev 2.1
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2746

p35c-ds3r rev 2.1
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...roductID=2749#

f10 bios for p35c-ds3r all revisions out
f11 bios for p35-ds3r all revisions out

[NJDevilsFan21]

I recommend that DQ6 owners remove their heat-pipe system and apply some Arctic Ceramique. I did this about two weeks ago, and after removing the heat-pipe system I saw that the thermal pads for the mosfet sinks were making no contact with the thermal tape at all (the thermal tape was smooth). So I added some ceramique, but I also saw how someone in the Abit P35 thread bolted their heatsinks down, and I did the same for the mosfet sinks on the DQ6. So I hope what I did has helped... I think it did... Over the summer the lowest load Vcore load I could run 3.6GHz was 1.35-1.36V, and now 1.32-1.33V... I just wish Gigabyte had some NB and PWM temp sensors.

[GazC]

I recommend that DQ6 owners remove their heat-pipe system and apply some Arctic Ceramique. I did this about two weeks ago, and after removing the heat-pipe system I saw that the thermal pads for the mosfet sinks were making no contact with the thermal tape at all (the thermal tape was smooth). So I added some ceramique, but I also saw how someone in the Abit P35 thread bolted their heatsinks down, and I did the same for the mosfet sinks on the DQ6. So I hope what I did has helped... I think it did... Over the summer the lowest load Vcore load I could run 3.6GHz was 1.35-1.36V, and now 1.32-1.33V... I just wish Gigabyte had some NB and PWM temp sensors.

As well as doing this, I also recommend you remove the useless crazy cool back plate which simply doesn't contact the motherboard. In addition, put some plastic washers between the retaining nuts and the back of the motherboard to slightly increase the clamping force of the NB sink, that lowered my NB temps quite a bit.

[swaaye]

You have to hit CRTL+F1 everytime in BIOS, although a new BIOS might skip the need for CRTL+F1.

Yeah, P35-DS3R's F9 BIOS shows everything without Ctrl-F1. Also shows real voltages instead of "Ok" or whatever it was before.

[Cob]

New BIOS's-

P35-DS4 - F11
P35-DS3P - F9
P35-DS3R - F11
P35C-DS3R - F10
P35-DS3 - F12

[kenton]

Wanted to report my experiences with the DS3P

Setup was very easy. Booted first try. System is in signature.

No problem with 4x1GB either, absolutely no problems.

Currently Q6600 is at 400x8 Quad Prime for a little over 22 hours. I will stop it at 24 hours and call it a day. I have a g0 chip with a pack date of 12/18/2007. My VID is a 1.325v which is the highest you can get from the factory.

400x7 = 2800 was stable for 12 hours Quad Prime @ 1.30v before I stopped it.

Went immediately to 400x8 and I decided to try the new OCCT program and it failed so I bumped voltage to 1.325v and OCCT passed at 30 minutes but I'm a 24 hour kinda guy because this is my HTPC.

Anyhow Quad Prime failed (rebooted system) after 6 hours. I was at the computer when it happened. I was scrolling through the Prime logs and it just rebooted.

Added voltage (forget BIOS setting, vDroop load is 1.34v, Idle vCore is 1.36v) and it's been stable for 22 hours now.

Increaded 3DMark06 score from ~10500 (E6400@3.4GHz/8800GTS 640MB @ 700/2000) to ~14500 with no overclock on new G92 8800GTS 512MB yet.

I am impressed in upgrade over ASUS P5B Deluxe. MIT tweaker menu is stupid and poorly designed but the correct options are there and overclocking is as they say great success

I wish I could go higher but I ordered the wrong Zalman cooler (universal instead of intel only) and the "AMD Style" clip was blocked by Gigabyte heatpipe on one side and heatsink on other. I didn't wish to mount Zalman pointing up anyways.

I am using ACF7Pro w/ MX2 paste (one dot in center of CPU size of rice)

Temps are (load/100% fans) 67/65/65/67 and idle (75% CPU fan/60% Zalman 120MM exhaust and 7v modded Zalman intake and 7v modded 92mm Scythe side intake) are in mid 40s. I forget but mid 40s. Computer is silent with the exception of the Raptor and it may need to go.

[LuckyNV]

I have this problem that has occured yesterday, basically Windows locked up due to a Media Player Classic bug.
Pressing the reset button did nothing, and 1 press of the power button shut off my PC, it then went through a power cycle phase where it powered up with fans spinning for a few seconds then shuts off before POST. I let it power cycle a few times until I was sure it couldn't POST without some help.
I turned off the PSU for about 20 seconds, then powered up again.

However the BIOS automatically reset to defaults, so I put everything back to normal including my OC (Q6600 B3, 9x360, 1.39V, RAM was 1:1 yes underclocked), saved my settings, computer powers off and automatically back on again like usual when saving.
But POST just says 266x9
I get into Windows, everything I set was right like 1:1 RAM and CPU volts, but FSB was default 266.

I tried F7/F8/F9/F10 BIOS still same issue, sometimes it would power cycle about 5 times and boot up with 166MHz FSB instead, every setting will stick just not FSB.

Tried the new F11 BIOS, I put 340x9, saved, but still read as default 266MHz (at least it didn't power cycle so many times before it POST)

I had this P35-DS4 Rev 2.0 for 2 weeks now shipped with F7 BIOS no problems at 360x9, Prime95 stable and Folding ever since.
This Q6600 B3 is several months old only and was running happily in a P965-DS4 360x9 before too.

I will test more tomorrow with F11, but anyone have any ideas wtf is the problem? Cheers

[blurp]

New BIOS's-

P35-DS4 - F11
P35-DS3P - F9
P35-DS3R - F11
P35C-DS3R - F10
P35-DS3 - F12

F11 for the DS3R fixed the bug for the memory in Memtest. Everything is smooth as silk so far.

[swaaye]

It doesn't auto-tune as you say. All it is, is gigabytes way of setting performance level. As far as I've seen, it does not make any other changes. That is why I always have it at extreme. That's performance level 7. I have tried to lower it to level 6 with memset, but it hard locks every time.

I have problems with it at extreme, usually. Turbo works until I'm around 400 FSB. It's a strange thing to test because I've had Prime95 run for hours fine and other times error out in a few mins. So, I definitely suggest setting it to standard until you find that the rest of the settings are stable.

One thing I'll say is that on the P35-DS3R this setting makes much more of a difference to latency than on 965P-DS3. I believe the P35 boards go lower on the performance level when set to Turbo and Extreme. Compared to Turbo on 965P-DS3.

It's pretty cool when you can beat out Athlon 64s and their integrated memory controllers with this performance level. But as I said it's tricky to figure out if you're stable sometimes.

[kenton]

How is that?

It's a g0 revision with the worst VID 1.325v.

I can't go any higher, I fear, due to temps. My personal limit for these new 100C tJunct procs is 70C (for 85C procs I did 65C) and I'm at 68-70C on Core 0 and 3, and I'm at 65-66 on Core 1 and 2.

[lastdon00]

So

I bought a

P35-DS4 REV. 2.1

anyway it came preinstalled with BIOS F8.

THOUGH weird thing when i go tot he giga website for revisino 2.1, it says newest and first bios is f10

go figure that one out

[LuckyNV]

Ok, no idea what I did, but looks like F11 may have fixed my OC troubles..., I set my OC to 6x400 (Q6600 2400MHz), but it posted as 6x266, went back into BIOS immediately and saw MIT listed it as 6x400.
Didn't change anything, just exited BIOS without saving and then it posted as 6x400

booted into Windows and it indeed is 6x400, amazing, first time i've been able to increase FSB in the past 2 days with any available BIOS version.

went back into BIOS and put 8x400, saved, didn't power cycle and instantly POSTed.
Finished Prime95, so looks like F11 fixed whatever problem I had

So

I bought a

P35-DS4 REV. 2.1

anyway it came preinstalled with BIOS F8.

THOUGH weird thing when i go tot he giga website for revisino 2.1, it says newest and first bios is f10

go figure that one out

my rev 2.0 shipped with F7, only F8 and above are listed, but I flashed with an F7 i found on the internet

[psyxeon]

Q6600 SLACR G0 2.4 @ 3.5 * Thermalright Ultra Extreme 1x 12" Scythe flex
* GA-P35-DS3R * 2x1gb Cellshock DDR2 pc6400 @ 1180/5-5-5-12 *
Thermaltake Toughpower 750-W * Inno 3d 8800 GtX @ 660/2000 * SyncMaster 226W

I,m back to bios v f5.

Anyone overcloking 4 gb on this mobo?
Bios version?

2 x 1024 can overclock very well but 4 x 1024 wont.
I don't know what to do! I get random crashes.
Should I send 2 sticks back?

[chrispycrunch]

I just wanted to give back my experiences to this forum to confirm that F11 is stable, with 30 minutes worth of memtest and orthos testing (I'll do a complete test later).

F10 resulted in memtest errors.
My current settings are 365x8 = 2.92 @ stock. My next goal, pending stability tests, is to either go 5-5-5-15, 400x8, or 4-4-4-15 @ 365x8. I think a good temperature goal @ stock would be 35C idle and 60C load.


RAM brand: ocz
RAM rated speed: 6400
RAM actual speed: 870MHz
Latency: 5-5-5-15 @ 1.9V

CPU Clock Ratio (Note)____________ [8] <<<----CPU Multiplier
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [365] <<<----FSB Speed (Front Side Buss)
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [AUTO]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) 876
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ AUTO
CAS Latency Time_____________ [5] []
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay______ [5 []
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_____[5] []
Precharge Delay (tRAS)________[15] []
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_______4 _____[auto]
Rank Write to READ Delay______3 _____[auto]
Write to Precharge Delay______6 _____[auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay________42 ______[0]<-
Read to Precharge Delay_______4 _____[auto]
Memory Performance Enhance__________ [TURBO]
High Speed DRAM DLL Settings________ [Option 1]
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.1V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [Standard] - 1.35

[kenton]

I did not memtest F8 bios for DS3P 2.0 but I just loaded F9 and ran memtest with it. It completed 1 full pass without error

D9GMH @ 800MHz, 4-4-4-12 @ 2.06v, 4x1GB 4096MB

[miahallen]

Just sent this too Gigabyte:

System Configuration
VGA Brand : Nvidia Model : eVGA 8800GTX
CPU Brand : Intel Model : Q6600 Speed : 2.4GHz
Operation System : n/a SP :
Memory Brand : Type : DDRII
Memory Size : various Speed : various
Power Supply : 500 W


tested four different sets of memory:
(x2) 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 @ 800MHz 4-4-4-12 2.2V
(x1) 2x1GB Corsair Dominator PC2-8500 @ 1000MHz 5-5-5-15 2.2V
(x1) 2x2GB G.SKILL PC2-8000 @ 1000MHz 5-5-5-15 2.1V
tested by pairs & with individual DIMMS. Results never varied.

This is a bug report for GA-P35-DS4 Rev.2.0 ***F9 BIOS***

Running the popluar memory diagnostic tool "memtest86+" v1.7 results in numerous "false positive" errors. Errors always occurring during test 1 and/or test 2 and always at address "0007feedf18" regardless of memory brand/size/configuration. I flashed back to the F8 BIOS and memtest86+ v1.7 runs without issue.

Please refer to the "more detailed configurations" section for more information on tested memory.

I also briefly tested memtest86 v3.2 with the same "false positive" errors.

F8 BIOS


F9 BIOS

They responded earlier today with this:

No issue with bios below F9?
Any settings overclocked?
How about running it at default specs?

I wrote back with this:

"No issue with bios below F9?"
No, F7 & F8 work fine, no issues found.

"Any settings overclocked?"
I've tried overclocked, underclocked, and rated speeds for all components with the same results in memtest. I even tried the Crucial Ballistix, rated at 800MHz 4-4-4-12 2.2V, at 800MHz 5-5-5-15 2.2V (underclocked) and still got the same errors with F9. With F8, I can run at 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 2.2V without errors.

"How about running it at default specs?"
Set everything at factory rated spec, still got the same errors in F9.

"Ryouko" alearted me to the issue in post #1823 of the Gigabyte P35 thread (page #73) at XtremeSystems Forums...feel free to read our discussion here (toward the bottom):
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...142340&page=73

He has had similar results:
"I have been running memtest86+ on it (usb legacy disabled) with 3 different sets of corsair CM2X1024-6400C4 and then I tried the Crucial Ballistix BL2Kit12864AA804 and they both failed, both with using the pc35-ds4 default configuration, and with the optimized configurations that are recommended by the memory companies website."

Then I flashed back to the F9 BIOS and re-ran the tests with the "fail-safe" settings, and the "optimized" settings, just to cover all my bases.

fail-safe:


optimized:

Gigabyte has contacted me again:

revert back to the F8 bios for now, we will examine the F9 bios

So now we play the waiting game once again...at least they are not denying the problem (not yet at least ).

f11 works without this error

I would also like to confirm no memtest86+ v1.7 errors with F11 for me Thank you Gigabyte!

[necron66]

New BIOS's-

P35-DS4 - F11
P35-DS3P - F9
P35-DS3R - F11
P35C-DS3R - F10
P35-DS3 - F12

F11 for the DS3R fixed the bug for the memory in Memtest. Everything is smooth as silk so far.

I would also like to confirm no memtest86+ v1.7 errors with F11 for me Thank you Gigabyte!

Yes F9 for DS3P 2 passes on memtest no errors.

[Ryouko]

I also got no memory errors with memtest+86 using the F11 bios setting for the P35-DS4 ver 2.0 motherboard using 4 x 1GB of corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4.