**Official DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Budwise]

any reason to get the LT over the new P35 Dark?

[Aivas47a]

Has anyone else run into a problem installing Ubuntu 7.1 using this board? Whenever I try to do so, the installation freezes before completion, or the partitioner is unable to detect the drive. I know the problem does not lie with the drive or the disk image, as I was able to install the program with no problem using a P5K mobo (same CD, same hard drive).

[Spanki]

any reason to get the LT over the new P35 Dark?

Most of the differences are noted here. If the component differences don't matter to you, then it boils down to the question of price and 45nm Quad support and which (if either) provide more reliable support for those, assuming that's something you're interested in.

I'm currently in the same boat you are... I'm currently leaning towards the LT, for the more robust PWM and 6-layer PCB design as well as some of the additional components (2x lan, firewire, more fan headers, etc).

[Budwise]

any bios differences between the LT and UT or any other reason that the UT would warrant the extra cash?

[Praz]

any bios differences between the LT and UT or any other reason that the UT would warrant the extra cash?

I haven't had the LT here yet. But just took a look in the latest official BIOS and it appears to have the same options as the UT version.

[Antinomy]

I can definetely say, that there are absolutely no differences in both the layout and the BIOS. In fact the new BIOS has a lable DFI LT \ UT version. Both.
The only diffrerence is that the LT version doesn't have the transpiper and that the color of the cooling is black, not weapon metal
That's all. Completely all. No PWM changing or BIOS.

[mad_skills]

Is LT uv reactive as well? I'm not sure about this...

[quake6]

Why I cant set 3v for memory on this mbo? I tried everything but no success. With 2.88v it is ok,but anything over mbo wont wake up...

[C-N]

Why I cant set 3v for memory on this mbo? I tried everything but no success. With 2.88v it is ok,but anything over mbo wont wake up...

Why I cant set 3v for memory on this mbo? I tried everything but no success. With 2.88v it is ok,but anything over mbo wont wake up...

What post code you getting ?

What vNB you using/tried ?

Have you tried setting the NB GTL manually?

I find sometimes if you're trying wild stuff thats really on the edge its best to switch off the PSU immediately after coming out of BIOS. I find sometimes you can make things that don't want to work, work if you force the board to set the nb strap with a PSU power down rather than a simple reboot.

CN

PS what the hell you want 3v for anyway, you going for gold or something ?

[Biker]

Will you guys stop posting plz, I am only on page 31!

[quake6]

I use e2180,crucial 2x512mb gmh and Enermax 430w (last problem,psu is very strong,measure with digital multimeter...)
I tried everything default,CPU,RAM,just pump ram voltage on 3v,then tried to raise NB,SB,VTT,clockgen voltage,nothing
Other sttings that I didnt change
GTL+ Buffers Strength-strong
HOST Slew rate-weak
GTL REF voltage control-disabled

[C-N]

I use e2180,crucial 2x512mb gmh and Enermax 430w (last problem,psu is very strong,measure with digital multimeter...)
I tried everything default,CPU,RAM,just pump ram voltage on 3v,then tried to raise NB,SB,VTT,clockgen voltage,nothing
Other sttings that I didnt change
GTL+ Buffers Strength-strong
HOST Slew rate-weak
GTL REF voltage control-disabled

I don't like the sound of the 430w PSU or the fact its an Enermax have you a different larger one you can try on it?

Are you using the auxiliary 12v & floppy connectors ? (they help high fsb for me)

GTL+ Buffer strength & Host slew rate have never stopped my board booting but NB GTL has, when I push my boards fsb up high the NB GTL makes all the difference as to what will boot/run & be stable enough to bench.

I also need just about all the vNB my board has for 2.7~2.8vdimm to run PI 32M

I am nobody to judge anybody but 3v to the RAM is suicidal they will die I hope you can accept this & you know what you are doing (no offence intended)

CN

[emoners]

I don't like the sound of the 430w PSU or the fact its an Enermax have you a different larger one you can try on it?

Are you using the auxiliary 12v & floppy connectors ? (they help high fsb for me)

GTL+ Buffer strength & Host slew rate have never stopped my board booting but NB GTL has, when I push my boards fsb up high the NB GTL makes all the difference as to what will boot/run & be stable enough to bench.

I also need just about all the vNB my board has for 2.7~2.8vdimm to run PI 32M

I am nobody to judge anybody but 3v to the RAM is suicidal they will die I hope you can accept this & you know what you are doing (no offence intended)

CN

something like this bro?


from Praz: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=872

how does it work?

[quake6]

I don't like the sound of the 430w PSU or the fact its an Enermax have you a different larger one you can try on it?

Are you using the auxiliary 12v & floppy connectors ? (they help high fsb for me)

GTL+ Buffer strength & Host slew rate have never stopped my board booting but NB GTL has, when I push my boards fsb up high the NB GTL makes all the difference as to what will boot/run & be stable enough to bench.

I also need just about all the vNB my board has for 2.7~2.8vdimm to run PI 32M

I am nobody to judge anybody but 3v to the RAM is suicidal they will die I hope you can accept this & you know what you are doing (no offence intended)

CN

That enermax has powered 2900xt with 12.05v on load (measure with digital multimeter) and now I use just PCI graphic card,not PCI-E...So there is enough power

Well I didnt connect floppy connector and as you said they help you for max fsb,but this is on 200MHz FSB and 800MHz memory...

I have some old gmh memory and want OC to max with cl3.Come to 1020MHz 3-3-3-8 with 2.88v,but I want more
I know what I´m doing,so dont worry

So NB GTL is maybe problem? I´ll try it,but nothing until weekend.Maybe some other advice?

And thanks

[C-N]

something like this bro?

http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/y_connector.jpg
from Praz: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=872

how does it work?

All I meant was have you got the No:1 floppy connector & No2: 2 x 4 pin 12v sockets powered up as IMO it helps high fsb.

My PSU has all the connectors on it so I don't need the splitter.

CN

[emoners]

All I meant was have you got the No:1 floppy connector & No2: 2 x 4 pin 12v sockets powered up as IMO it helps high fsb.

My PSU has all the connectors on it so I don't need the splitter.

CN

oh...i didn't use the floppy connector since i thought i wasn't using a floppy drive (& totally mess up the cable management), but i did put on the 2x 4-pin 12v. so is it advisable to put on the floppy connector? Thanks for the reply C-N!

[C-N]

That enermax has powered 2900xt with 12.05v on load (measure with digital multimeter) and now I use just PCI graphic card,not PCI-E...So there is enough power

Well I didn't connect floppy connector and as you said they help you for max fsb,but this is on 200MHz FSB and 800MHz memory...

I have some old gmh memory and want OC to max with cl3.Come to 1020MHz 3-3-3-8 with 2.88v,but I want more
I know what I´m doing,so dont worry

So NB GTL is maybe problem? I´ll try it,but nothing until weekend.Maybe some other advice?

And thanks

Sorry to sound like a d1ck about the 3v but I had to ask.

Its not the 12v supply thats the problem its the startup current that appears to catch quite a few higher spec & high power PSU's out. I personally have never had this startup problem with a PSU but I have heard of it several times hence my dislike for your PSU.

I am not real big into extreme benching sure I play when I'm bored but I have never ventured up to 3v as I have killed plenty decent sticks of RAM @ 2.6~2.8v. I would be real unhappy about benching 3v without a smooth ripple free PSU & or an optimiser.

I am sure there will be someone along with real hardcore extreme benching experience that can help you out, this place is full of nutters

CN

[C-N]

oh...i didn't use the floppy connector since i thought i wasn't using a floppy drive (& totally mess up the cable management), but i did put on the 2x 4-pin 12v. so is it advisable to put on the floppy connector? Thanks for the reply C-N!

Ever since I got an extra 5-10fsb out of my 975X/G pluging in everything it had I have just made it a habit to plug everything in & I have never been disappointed.

I cant remember where I seen it (probably DFI/DIY Street or DFI Club) but as far as I can remember plugging in the 2 x 12v's are highly recommended & plugging in the floppy is recommended if using a high end card.

Maybe Praz would be able to give us the official line on this ?

CN

[quake6]

With same psu I had ran 3+v on my last mbo,dfi LP 590sli and had no problem... Here is mbo problem...
EDIT:And if you think that psu is problem,then why I can do everything on 2.88v,but with 2.91 it cant even boot...

[Lood007]

EDIT:And if you think that psu is problem,then why I can do everything on 2.88v,but with 2.91 it cant even boot...

Because your RAM is probably melting?!

[Solarfall]

hey you fellas that have quad core cpus .. what is the max fsb that you have been able to achieve with your dfi boards... the max (stable) that i was able to pull off with my q6600 was 450.. this was done with air cooling.

sorry im too lazy to browse the whole thread

[quake6]

RAM is still working

[C-N]

With same psu I had ran 3+v on my last mbo,dfi LP 590sli and had no problem... Here is mbo problem...
EDIT:And if you think that psu is problem,then why I can do everything on 2.88v,but with 2.91 it cant even boot...

Its only my opinion based on the issues I have constantly seen with DFI's & PSU you don't have to agree no skin off my back.

Why don't yo PM M3KK I reckon he may just have your answer.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2689548

CN

[C-N]

hey you fellas that have quad core cpus .. what is the max fsb that you have been able to achieve with your dfi boards... the max (stable) that i was able to pull off with my q6600 was 450.. this was done with air cooling.

sorry im too lazy to browse the whole thread

I haven't really put much effort into finding the max fsb but I did have a quick play & got to 505fsb on a TRUE 120 when I first got her.

CN

[Praz]

With one exception using the additional power connectors on a board is never going to hurt stability. The exception is power supply incompatibility. There are a few power supplies that because of the configuration of the rails will actually cause instability or a no-boot condition if the additional power points are used.

Supplying power from multiple points is a good thing. It can negate high frequency noise that would be picked up along the trace routing. Using the additional connectors results in less voltage drop at most all places of the board. It is also easier on the traces themselves suppling power from multiple points. There are several other reasons why suppling power to the board like this is a good thing. When pushing components it can be the difference between success and failure.

If multiple voltage supply points at critical locations wasn't beneficial we wouldn't have 4 and 8 pin connectors on the boards suppling processor power. Everything would be fed from the 24 pin connector.