the new 45nm Quads

[WiTcHkInG]

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looking at it both the Q9xx and Xeon X3xx have identical specs and prices.
the current X3xx Xeons are socket 775 chips. if these ones are too, whats the difference between them and the Q9xx chips.

[Ace123]

Name and binning.

[firas]

would this look better



this is for notebooks

from here

[zbomb5610]

i think i will try to pick up the q9450 if i find a good deal on one when they come out, hopefully the prices don't get inflated due to demand like some other products, i.e 8800gt.

[Envydia007]

I will have to wait on Q9450 on how it will overclock on air.

[naokaji]

would this look better

hmm that 4700 there looks sweet for cheap oc's.. 13 multi on a budget cpu

[firas]

i think i will try to pick up the q9450 if i find a good deal on one when they come out, hopefully the prices don't get inflated due to demand like some other products, i.e 8800gt.

Q9450 looks like the best choice over all

Intel Extreme CPUs do not hold up their worth, performance delta isn't worth all that extra $$. Perhaps it's worth $50 or $100 at best
Q9450 suffers from a relatively low multiplier and limited FSB limits since it’s a yorkfield and that brings the E8500 issue, but the Q9450 will be the one if you think for long term
If it reached 450mhz this means 450X8 = 3600Mhz CPU speed which can be done with air only, no need for water cooling, well….for non-QX chips no need for water cooling at all
ya and the E8400 is a really good choice for a low budget's

[systemviper]

9450
hopefully it will turn out like our beloved Q6600

[mattd390]

any idea when these processors are being released?

[adamsleath]

e8xxx v soon 20 jan
yf "Q1"
end feb-mar.
?

[Ace123]

e8xxx v soon 20 jan
yf "Q1"
end feb-mar.
?

The fact that I can comprehend this shows evidence that ive been on the internet FAR too long.

8000 series is due for the end of january if no delays are had.

[BLHealthy4life]

Q9450 is the sweet spot.

The price premium to move from Q9450 to Q9550 is ridiculous.

Q9450 and an Asus P5E3 Premium are my next two purchases....

[linflas]

9450
hopefully it will turn out like our beloved Q6600

probably not, unless the mobo's get better fast, 500fsb 24/7 stable for 4GHZ on an 8 multi is almost non-existant. People can bench higher, but for 24/7 stuff Q6600 with the x9 multi is still it.

Intel figured out a way to get us to buy thier extreme editions finally. Sadly...

[TEDY]

as linflas said....new 9450 is not a bargain as q6600 is now.

[BLHealthy4life]

probably not, unless the mobo's get better fast, 500fsb 24/7 stable for 4GHZ on an 8 multi is almost non-existant. People can bench higher, but for 24/7 stuff Q6600 with the x9 multi is still it.

Intel figured out a way to get us to buy thier extreme editions finally. Sadly...

damn, you're absolutely right...

freaking 8x multi sucks!

Not only that, the general trend I believe is that the higher cache (12MB)Yorkfields aren't hitting as high a FSB than the Kentfields....

I'm not positive on this though....

[darcon]

Ok, it's decision time for me and I need some help.

First off, you should know my machine is primarily used for gaming. I don't need extra power for editing, rendering, benchmarking, or anything like that...just pure gaming.

Right now I'm looking at either the Q9450 or the E8400. I'm also willing to toss around the idea of a Q6600. The Q9450 would obviously be more "future-proof" than the dualcore for games, but everyone also said that last year about Conroe, and look how many games actually benefit significantly from 4 cores. The E8400 would not only be a lot cheaper, but I would most likely be able to clock it higher due to the drop in heat and the higher multiplier.

So...what do you all recommend: a more expensive quad-core that would probably clock lower, or a cheaper dual-core that would probably clock higher?
I might also get another 2 gigs of ram with the upgrade (definitely if I get the dual-core, since the one I'm looking at is nearly half the price).

Remember, this is a gaming machine, and money IS an issue (I'm not willing to "spend just a little more for...etc." or go water-cooling). I also want this upgrade to be a noticable increase over my current CPU (see sig) and last at least long enough to make it worth the money (1 year+).

Thanks for your help!

P.S. - I may or may not invest in the new nVidia card, information is being tossed all over the place and I just need to wait and see how things pan out.

[Supertim0r]

you almost replied to your Q...8400

9450 will hit max 3.6-3.8ghz for 24/7

[EvilBellyLint]

E8400


EBL

[ownage]

In about 2 months you probably can buy second hand q6600's which will do around 3.6ghz / 3.8ghz for 24/7 for around 150 euro. Or you can buy a q9450 which will do the same while it costs more. If i want a new cpu it has to be 9x multiplier. Wolfdale will be much more fun

[BLHealthy4life]

In about 2 months you probably can buy second hand q6600's which will do around 3.6ghz / 3.8ghz for 24/7 for around 150 euro. Or you can buy a q9450 which will do the same while it costs more. If i want a new cpu it has to be 9x multiplier. Wolfdale will be much more fun

Yorkfield is also on average 7% faster clock for clock than the Kentfield...

So even though the Yorkfield will cost more, this increased performance may be worth it to some....

[NoSoMo]

Just got a T9500 for the laptop! Nice step up from my 1.6Ghz chip.

I think I'm going to ditch the Q6600 for an E8500. I could live with a 4.5Ghz Dual Core until developers finally realize the benefits of more than 1 core and how to utilize them.

[karl_eller]

Yeah the Penryn quads aren't really looking to be that great. Still the same 450-500 FSB wall as Conroe, and only a 5-8% increase in performance clock-for-clock. Although it'll be interesting to see if that changes when they start retailing. Maybe Intel delayed them somewhat because they're working on the FSB wall?

So maybe I'll be looking at a cheep Q6600 G0 instead of a Q9450, since my current B3 runs stupidly hot. And there will probably be a lot of cheap second hand Q6600's on the market soon, too.

Now those E8400's, on the other hand... I'd love to get my mitts on one of those and see how high I can get it screaming along...

Eller

[adamsleath]

sits back to watch for some typical retail chip results for e8400 and q9450

[strange|ife]

the E4700 looks to be a real beast for budget clocks, I can see 4ghz on air easily.

[adamsleath]

yr joking e4xxx wont go that high surely..?