Official DFI LanParty UT X38-T2R(and LT) Discussion/Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

[Praz]

the more i look at the thread and i see someone saying the board has crap penryn support or the volts don't read correctly the more i wish i didnt buy it

I'm sure you would have no problem selling it.

[Origin_Unknown]

^ lol that's not the point is it?

Ima have to stick with it now, just keep my e6600 for a while.

[CapFTP]

did anyone flash these beta bios ?

2007/12/28
File X38B_C28.zip

Winflash tells me "load the correct bios file..."...i just can flash an older one, but not this C28....why ?

[Ace-a-Rue]

did anyone flash these beta bios ?

2007/12/28
File X38B_C28.zip

Winflash tells me "load the correct bios file..."...i just can flash an older one, but not this C28....why ?

where did you get the C28 beta bios?...the latest i have is C18.

i'll PM you with my email address...i'll give it a try

[Brother Esau]

[QUOTE=CapFTP;2683031]did anyone flash these beta bios ?

2007/12/28
File X38B_C28.zip


Yah.......and I am sending Bios chip Right now because of it!


Beta Site

[eva2000]

did anyone flash these beta bios ?

2007/12/28
File X38B_C28.zip

Winflash tells me "load the correct bios file..."...i just can flash an older one, but not this C28....why ?

flashed using awdflash okay here.. fixes 5:8 divider at least 400fsb 5:8 640mhz 5-5-5-15 memtesting!

3:5 still has problems but 5:8 seems fixed

[Origin_Unknown]

eva2000 just saw the over clocking guide in your sig... thanks
ill be looking over that i feel

[Ace-a-Rue]

thanks, BRO!

[deadman'sclick]

think ive got mine orderd from that german site

as i dont have a paypal account i had to order it the odd euro IBAN number thingy way. i ended up going to the bank to do it & even then the casher had problems sorting it out lol.

can't wait now , i got a cool little e6750 (1.4 vcore for 3.7Ghz) ready for a thrashing .

that reminds me i need to do a sig up.

regards

[linflas]

I'm sure you would have no problem selling it.

LOL @ praz, probably not, the other 2 have gone in less than 12 hours in the for sale section

flashed using awdflash okay here.. fixes 5:8 divider at least 400fsb 5:8 640mhz 5-5-5-15 memtesting!

3:5 still has problems but 5:8 seems fixed

Thanks eva, do you happen to have any recomendation for using the 2x2gb pc2-8000 GSKILL kit. What settings, secondary timings etc... Will probably be on the 1:1 divider in the 850-900mhz range, hopefully cas 4.

Thanks

[Praz]

2x2GB PC2-8000 G.SKIL at 5:6.

CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 1
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Enabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x
CPU Clock.................................450 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/800
PCIE Clock................................100 MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page 
CPU VID Control...........................1.3875V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.985V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.327V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................3
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................48
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................2
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................4

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 456ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 534ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 289ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 400ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 367ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

[linflas]

Thanks so much praz, and just under 2V on the vdimm, very nice, very nice indeed.

[Praz]

The key to the G.Skill is tRFC. Start at 52-54 and work down from there.

[Dark79]

^ lol that's not the point is it?

Well if my 3rd board (2nd replacement) also blows up, then I'd be worried

[zanzabar]

what are u doing to kill it 3V vdimm or bad gtl settings or unlucky ness

[Origin_Unknown]

Praz would up'ing the PCI-E clock to 101mhz help any? seem'd to help my 965.... unless it was just idle hope

[eva2000]

Thanks eva, do you happen to have any recomendation for using the 2x2gb pc2-8000 GSKILL kit. What settings, secondary timings etc... Will probably be on the 1:1 divider in the 850-900mhz range, hopefully cas 4.

Thanks

Haven't used my 2x2GB Gskill kit on this board yet, but what Praz says is important tRFC needs to be loosened alot on some boards for gskill 2x2GB PC2-8000 kits and optimal voltages between 2-2.1v.

Clock fine delay tuning may help too http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4743

Praz, interesting tool you have for hands free DMM measurements

[Origin_Unknown]

has anyone tried a penryn dual core on here rather than a quad? i.e. E8500?

[edit] mine has been shipped - Scheduled Delivery: 10-January-2008 [/edit]

[edit2] just to clarify, my x38 has been shipped, not an e8500 [/edit2]

[linflas]

Haven't used my 2x2GB Gskill kit on this board yet, but what Praz says is important tRFC needs to be loosened alot on some boards for gskill 2x2GB PC2-8000 kits and optimal voltages between 2-2.1v.

Clock fine delay tuning may help too http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4743

Praz, interesting tool you have for hands free DMM measurements

Thanks eva, will have a look at that i4memory thread when the site is back up.

Graphics cards come tomorrow, so after a water block setup on those, will be up and running, and will finally be able to try this beast out.

[Origin_Unknown]

linflas what gfx cards out of curiosity?

[linflas]

Visiontek 3870's from bestbuy.com, got 'em for $198 each shipped because of reward zone member. Slow shipping, but the price was right.

[Praz]

Praz would up'ing the PCI-E clock to 101mhz help any? seem'd to help my 965.... unless it was just idle hope

Hasn't made any difference for me but would be worth a shot.

Praz, interesting tool you have for hands free DMM measurements

They're from a company called AG Devices. They have different interchangeable heads also. This one's handy for dual measurements on an SMD device.

[lazy]

im putting nearly 1.5v to the nb and 2.27 to the ram and it wont boot stock settings for tracers.. do i need to rma these ?

[eva2000]

Hasn't made any difference for me but would be worth a shot.


They're from a company called AG Devices. They have different interchangeable heads also. This one's handy for dual measurements on an SMD device.

cool.. how much did it cost ya ?

im putting nearly 1.5v to the nb and 2.27 to the ram and it wont boot stock settings for tracers.. do i need to rma these ?

pay attention to which mem dividers you use prior to 12/28 bios 5:8 divider won't boot your system

12/28 Beta Bios - 5:8 divider tests
Previously on 11/28 bios, certain memory dividers had stability issues. 4:5 divider couldn't do more than 440FSB, 3:5 divider had issues of stability even at 333FSB due to tight performance level of 4 and 5:8 divider wouldn't even allow system to boot regardless of cpu FSB set.

Now 12/28 beta bios http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US has at least moved one step closer, with fixing the 5:8 divider.

From 11/28 bios 5:8 no system boot, to 12/28 beta bios doing 400FSB 5:8 640Mhz 5-5-5-15 on memory! Having some difficulties tuning clock fine delay for above 400FSB on 5:8 so far since using 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 Tracers on 2:3 divider manages upto 681mhz 5-5-5-x more easily!

5:8 divider needs slightly more vdimm than 2:3 divider but still pretty good for 640mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.35v bios set.

Results

• Single Super Pi 32M = 13m 21.485ms
• Everest 4.20.1245 Beta Bandwidth

12/28 Beta Bios settings

PC Health Status
Adjust CPU Temp: +7

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
-  PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 3600
CPU Clock: 400
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 333/1066
- Target DRAM Speed: 1280
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.2875v
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.35v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.566
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.393
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST 
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled 

Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: 1680 
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: 490
- DIMM 1 Control fine delay: 560
- DIMM 2 Control fine delay: 350
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: 350

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: 1610
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: 490
- DIMM 3 Control fine delay: 560
- DIMM 4 Control fine delay: 350
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: 280

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto (where cpuz sees 1T or 2T SETTING)

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15
All Precharge to Act: 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 35
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 7

Read delay phase adjust: Enter

Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto 
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 11
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4

[ZeroCool101]

Just wondering what NB heatsink everyone is using on the DFI x38? You using stock heatsink with what type of fan or did you buy a whole new nb cooler? just wondering.