Phenom 9500 w/ MSI K9A2 Platinum

[Brother Esau]

@ Tye hey what are you're thoughts brother Phenom 9500 they seem to do as well as the next as it would seem until B3 comes to bat and they are $189.00 on the EGG or is the 9600 any better probably not right?

[KTE]

KTE, are you still running the 1.13 bios?

Yep. Trying some new ones soon.

I'm really starting to wonder if I have a bad board/chip... When I was having problems last night I set every thing back to stock, it booted into windows and then locked up as soon as I went to open AOD... Guess it could have been a problem with AOD because I lost it and had to delete/reinstall...

Lockups when opening AOD occur when its trying to initialize the 790FX clock generator. That's an AOD problem it seems, I had it myself at first. Could be the board too though.
Check your AOD log files for errors.

I've been OC'ing for years and I've just never seen such odd behavior from a chip before... One time it will crank and next time it won't boot...

Same here.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=23

Oh well, guess I'll try MSI's 1.1 bios (board came with 1.0) when I get off work...

1.1 is better than 1.0, it was much better for me anyway.

If I've read things correctly, upping the CPU Vid from 1.2 to 1.25 increases the current to the chip right?

It should be 1.25VID stock, but at times the chip automatically decreases VID. Yep, it decides P-States, which decide amps fed to to each core as well and thus stability.

I'm not trying to be a wimp, but doesn't that seem like alot of power for a 65nm chip? My Opty 185 (90nm) only needs 1.43v's to run 3.0Ghz....

True, many K8s oc'd far higher than this but K10 isn't a mature core, the quad core manufacturing is new and unmatured and this is a quad at the same node as K8 was, so it can't get much lower. Especially with native quad, bins are no where near as good as dual-core and in decent yeilds as dual MCM will be. I didn't expect higher, but 1.45V 3GHz should still be achievable on some K10s. The problem isn't a power/volts one the way I see it but a core design problem.

1.25VID is stock though, giving around 19A per core at 1.232V which is within the 95W TDP. So it is still good, stock CPU power draw is not bad. There's many screaming it's this or that. None can run a few simple tests and provide me feedback to compare with themselves since online reviews are just so differing in variables and tenbd to take things too far in extreme tangents than what we want to know.

I've only been playing with it for a few days, but it seems like keeping NB/HTT clocks close to each other gives better results, ie:same multi (of course I could be totally wrong!)......

Sounds good to me.

As long as I keep them both around 1800, would that be OK.. or should I lower them even more?

1800 after oc'ing is fine, even 1900 is fine in many cases, but not before oc'ing as oc will make it go higher up quite obviously.

@ Tye hey what are you're thoughts brother Phenom 9500 they seem to do as well as the next as it would seem until B3 comes to bat and they are $189.00 on the EGG

Phenom is doing well in EU, don't know about US. Price is much cheaper in US all round than in EU for devices. I sold mine cheaper than you can get an used E6750 here. Price drops are decent around the EU for Phenom but not much on Kentsfields at all so the difference increases and most people feel about what they have to pay there and then and the damage it does to their pockets rather than long term or logically. It still occupies a market niche, a segment orientated specific displacement but you can't say it competes with Core 2 offerings at stock vs stock.