CellShock DDR3-1800 8-7-6-21 Testing!

[saaya]

hmmm interesting... so you needed more chipset voltage for tighter pl and not really higher memory clocks? but you DID notice that increasing vmch is necessary to get higher memory clocks or its making the same clocks with less vdimm possible and higher clocks with the same vdimm possible?

[Achill3uS]

thanks for the info.

well, this motherboard doesn't see 24/7, it is just used for benching and memory clocking. with that said, the last month has seen it running pretty much 24/7 running Prime, HCI Memtest, SPI, and looping 3DMark 01/06 for long term stability testing on memory kits.

i have had the vMCH at 1.71v~1.81v for most if not the entire time. at some points it has been up to 2.00v but for the long term stability it has stayed around the 1.71v~1.81v range. i am just using a Noctua NC-U6 for cooling with a 2300RPM 120mm fan over the memory blowing on the NB as well.

Thanks for the info's man, that helps a lot!
NC-U6 woot, this baby cools down the NB surely

Thanks! Its nice!

In a few days we will test the p5e3 ws pro with LN2 and a QX9650. Of course with these Cellshocks too

(A closer look to saaya: Blue Kit? )

I hope i will get my Blitz Extreme back soon, then i will try to reach the 1000Mhz. But i need a CPU for this

Thanks mate
GL HF to the LN2 party it's always great fun
Blitz Extreme was for a long time my dream mobo, but some people told P5K3 Deluxe with mods is much better (no coldbugs, ect) ... I hope so
ps: you don't have got blue paint?

afaik he used above 2v but not much above 2v i suspect he noticed it doesnt scale above that.

jody, did your p5k3 still scale up to 2v?

hmmm why not? it oced better on p35 boards for you?

sorry robert... im still in my hometown up in the north and a couple of blue kits together with your blitz board are still in southern germany.
I didnt think you would need it... sorry... my plan was to go back to the south after new year, then pick up the hardware and head over to munich and fly to ces.

happy 2008 to all of you!!! great to have so much usefull info in one thread

achill3us, please forward my greetings to jo!
Hope his gf is feeling better!

haha, master saaya happy new year for you too
it's good to know... can't wait to do the mods

no, actually i dont used wolfdale in x38, but i dont think that mobos could handle much more than 600fsb...
btw i prefer asus mobos, and we could read a lot about the maximus problems on sub-zero... so waiting position for the rampage and the p45 as many others...

i will forward your best wishes
but she is his wife man

[3oh6]

hmmm interesting... so you needed more chipset voltage for tighter pl and not really higher memory clocks? but you DID notice that increasing vmch is necessary to get higher memory clocks or its making the same clocks with less vdimm possible and higher clocks with the same vdimm possible?

hehe, like everything with these last two motherboards, i am not 100% sure because i have been so crunched for time that i haven't had the chance to fully test all of those theories but i can say for sure that...

i could not get 1000MHz single 32M stable with the Ballistix before the vMCH mod. i worked with the board for about a week and could not make it happen. after the vMCH mod, single 32M 1000MHz was not a problem. i just can't remember 100% if that was all that was adjusted. my notes seem to reflect it was but i can't be certain. now, i also haven't tested that theory with more than one kit of ram because at the time i only had the one kit capable of 1000MHz single 32M...so it may have just been the Ballistix.

Thanks for the info's man, that helps a lot!
NC-U6 woot, this baby cools down the NB surely

no problem and yes, the Noctua has been a beast from the day i got it. now that i have the Maximus Extreme, which has an accurate NB temp sensor, and the chipset seems to be sensitive to heat; i would like to get a mini-NB round-up going if i can. i have started working on the details but something tells me the Noctua will be right up there at the head of the class with the rest of them.

[saaya]

haha, master saaya happy new year for you too
it's good to know... can't wait to do the mods

no, actually i dont used wolfdale in x38, but i dont think that mobos could handle much more than 600fsb...
btw i prefer asus mobos, and we could read a lot about the maximus problems on sub-zero... so waiting position for the rampage and the p45 as many others...

i will forward your best wishes
but she is his wife man

please dont call me master!
yeah i know its his wife...
x38 is good for high fsb, but ROG boards for some reasons suck... i guess its caused they are tweaked for higher ipc?
and sorry to dissapoint you but even p5k3 boards have problems under cold temps not all... and sometimes it works... but not for long :/
ive seen thoseproblems with 2 boards myself and i heard from 2 other people having cold problems with the p5k3... :/

benchzowner said he got his p5k3 to work well with ln2, i think he used some extra insulation and made sure the caps and coils didnt get too cold.

[BenchZowner]

Yup, like Saaya said,
The P5K3 Deluxe worked like a charm for me with LN2 ( I only benched with it & LN2 three times... ) [ and yes...I'm in intoxication....I haven't benched with DI/LN2 for 3 months or so ]

I shall be benching with the board & LN2 in a week or so...I'll give you pics of my insulation, etc if you want

[ Actually both my P5K3 Deluxe's worked ok under LN2 ]

[George_o/c]

Any high resolution ln2 session pics are wholeheartedly welcome benchzowner ... (Hehehe my screensaver is rather old, time to change it - btw this has nothing to do with the high resolution mentioned ... ).

I also wanted to ask ... Lower values as far as the Performance Level is concerned, can improve a 3D score ... ? For instance Performance Level 5 ...

[BenchZowner]

Yup...performance level has some nice impact on 3D Mark2001SE/AquaMark3 & SuperPi

[George_o/c]

Interesting ...

[BenchZowner]

But this is benchmarking anyway...every tiny bit available..grab it

[Achill3uS]

please dont call me master!
yeah i know its his wife...
x38 is good for high fsb, but ROG boards for some reasons suck... i guess its caused they are tweaked for higher ipc?
and sorry to dissapoint you but even p5k3 boards have problems under cold temps not all... and sometimes it works... but not for long :/
ive seen thoseproblems with 2 boards myself and i heard from 2 other people having cold problems with the p5k3... :/

benchzowner said he got his p5k3 to work well with ln2, i think he used some extra insulation and made sure the caps and coils didnt get too cold.

okay, i know you're only padawan

x38 is good for high fsb
i don't seen many 600+ fsb results, so i dont think, but if retail wolfdale coming, we will see more... and pls don't call ROG mobo's crap, i love them

you don't make me disappointed don't worry, everybody told me my blitz forumla has coldbug for sure, and it booted at -130C without problems, so i hope i will be lucky again (and this mobo is made in china, not the taiwan version)

Yup, like Saaya said,
The P5K3 Deluxe worked like a charm for me with LN2 ( I only benched with it & LN2 three times... ) [ and yes...I'm in intoxication....I haven't benched with DI/LN2 for 3 months or so ]

I shall be benching with the board & LN2 in a week or so...I'll give you pics of my insulation, etc if you want

[ Actually both my P5K3 Deluxe's worked ok under LN2 ]

thanks, i'm happy to read this
yep, i'm curious to your pics, mostly insulation and mods your way Bench

[saaya]

the p5k3 i tried under ln2 was made in china as well... i dont think this has a big impact on whether it likes cold or not :/

well i dont like rog boards... they are way overpriced imo... :P
ive seen a roundup of p35 and x38 boards, i think it was on the hardware site of jmax. he tested the p5k3 vs blitz and p5e3 dlx vs maximus i think, so basically the normal asus board vs the rog asus board. and every rog board got around 50mhz lower fsb speeds than the normal asus boards.

let me see if i can find that article...
hmmm cant find it... :/

[Achill3uS]

the p5k3 i tried under ln2 was made in china as well... i dont think this has a big impact on whether it likes cold or not :/

well i dont like rog boards... they are way overpriced imo... :P
ive seen a roundup of p35 and x38 boards, i think it was on the hardware site of jmax. he tested the p5k3 vs blitz and p5e3 dlx vs maximus i think, so basically the normal asus board vs the rog asus board. and every rog board got around 50mhz lower fsb speeds than the normal asus boards.

let me see if i can find that article...
hmmm cant find it... :/

i've read about somewhere made in taiwan mobos are much worse on sub-zero...

yep, they are not cheap, but still what i've got of ROG (Commando, Blitz Formula) was my best mobo's, without any bugs like many others... maybe i was lucky, or just don't try such a lot of mobo's like you

that article could be interesting, but it's only one review, and i don't believe to normal testers, not real overclockers (and i don't talk about jmax)... the most favorited hw forum in hungary was made a review that foxconn mars is a crap board, worse than p5k deluxe... and they used around 450fsb walled cpu for testing the mobo's oc potential... i think you know what i'm talking about

[BenchZowner]

DDR3-2020/2024 is stable! ROFL
7-7-6-21... wonder if i can make them go higher ( next week...got some stuff now )...

CPUz Validation for DDR3-2020 7-7-6-21 1T

SuperPi 8M result

[BenchZowner]

Hmmm...let's move on... DDR3-2056 8-7-6-21 now

CPUz Validation

SuperPi 8M

[Achill3uS]

ehh... nice results Bench
how about the vdimm? secret?

i think i will try this bios

[BenchZowner]

2.25V @ BIOS which is ~2.29V AFAIR ( it's been long time )

[saaya]

wow! what vmch and what bios???
let me guess, 333 strap right?
what pl?

EDIT: i askedjmax and he found the article i was referring to:
http://www.jmax-hardware.com/index.p...1&limitstart=7

as you can see rog boards reached much lower fsb results in their reviews.
i dont know what straps and voltage options they used though...

[BenchZowner]

Performance Level 6 for the DDR3-2020 7-7-6-21 tests, and Performance level 8 ( 7 proved to be stable as well ) for the DDR3-2056 8-7-6-21 tests.
Vmch = 1.70V
266MHz & 333MHz Strap work fine ( both )

BIOS = 0810

[saaya]

wow... unmoddet board? damn i gotta try that new bios!

[BenchZowner]

I don't think it's the BIOS...some luckiness ( wow I got that thing ? ) on northbridge/motherboard & RAM ( well.... isn't it a blue kit ? )

Gonna finish the review ( now I need to run the benches with the various kits & write the text ) and after that...I'm gonna mod the board and hit for sky high numbers...I believe they're waiting for me

[3oh6]

damn lucky board you have there. your one of those cases where the chipset is about as good as its going to get. vMCH mod probably won't do a whole lot for you except add a little more stability at high FSB low PLs like 500/6. it will be interesting to see what it does for that board.

would like to see single 32M maxes and could you pretty please list BIOS set voltage for all your screen shots. one thing i like about the Maximus Xtreme, vDIMM gets picked up by Everest for ease of doing that.

[BenchZowner]

Anything you want...you name it, and I'll give it to ya ( not those sticks though )

[saaya]

lol well jody i think his board clocks so well cause its a recent nb, right bill?
i have a bunch of p5k3 deluxe boards and the best can do 985 stable more or less... but if you look at all the new boards with x38 and p35 they seem to hit 1000+ consistently...

when did you get that new p5k3 dlx bill?
1-2 months ago right? all my p5k3s are 6 months old...
the new p5e3 i got last month does 1000+ as well...

[BenchZowner]

I'll give you any info ( NB steppings, etc ) tomorrow ( if it's viewable with bare eyes...need to pick up a new camera )

'till then...have fun

[saaya]

waiting