Phenom Compatibility with pre-790fx boards, where does it stand?

**n91htmare** · 12-03-2007, 09:43 AM

Where do we stand on phenom compatibility with AM2 and AM2+ boards?
One of AMD's biggest talk point was Phenoms drop in capability. I've got couple of rigs and do few of my friends.

I'm just wondering if that is still true.....

Boards in question:

MSI K9NBPM2-FID
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2
GIGABYTE GA-M61P-S3 AM2

**n91htmare** · 12-03-2007, 04:49 PM

no one knows?

**EvilBellyLint** · 12-03-2007, 04:56 PM

yep, all socket AM2 boards should be compatible.
At most, certain models may need a BIOS update.

EBL

Edited to Add: I do know the ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe is compatible straight out of the box

**mAJORD** · 12-03-2007, 05:08 PM

just upgraded the bios in my Gigabyte M55S-S3 am2 board. It's running flawlessly with a 9500 in there..

won't overclock though. Didn't expect much joy thogh as it was

for OCing K8 also.

**Aussie FX** · 12-04-2007, 01:23 AM

I'm trying to run a 9500 in a Crosshair and am having my fair share of issues.
They are all bios related though.

**Psycho_eddie** · 12-04-2007, 01:32 AM

Basically most of the upperteir mobos

Like Asus Crosshair

Asus M2N32-Deliuxe

DFI 590SLI

Have Phenom support, but pressuably its more difficult to code so is most costly hense why support for cheaper bords is most likely to be non existant.

Even those above boards with new bios causes bad problems gone back to old bios for Crosshair as latest one reduce my game performence by half due to HT only X1 and few other little things.

**LIKMARK** · 12-04-2007, 01:32 AM

Please explain Aussie FX. Can you boot at all?

**Aussie FX** · 12-04-2007, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by LIKMARK

Please explain Aussie FX. Can you boot at all?

Hi LIKMARK,

Yeah mate booting has it's issues though. At one point I had to remove 3 sticks of ram to get it to boot, then for no reason it worked with all 4 sticks again. Getting corrupted bios occasionally, and just general instability. This is running everything at stock.
It's just an immature bios that's the problem.
I tried a small overclock at 210HTT and it didn't want to know about it, then I tried 205HTT and it booted once, but I couldn't get it to reboot.
Just weird things like that.

**mAJORD** · 12-04-2007, 04:10 AM

hmm that sucks Aussie. haven't tried this xhair again.

The cheapo gigabyte M55 board though.. running perfectly. And actually has Ganged/unganged option.

was going well priming away on 4 cores, at least until my finger got a little close and.. Blood flowed.

Scratch 1 Phenom heatsink.

Effective and quiet buggers with the newer blade design, but damn, they bite @ full speed.

**KiD0M4N** · 12-04-2007, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by mAJORD

hmm that sucks Aussie. haven't tried this xhair again.

The cheapo gigabyte M55 board though.. running perfectly. And actually has Ganged/unganged option.

was going well priming away on 4 cores, at least until my finger got a little close and.. Blood flowed.

Scratch 1 Phenom heatsink.

Effective and quiet buggers with the newer blade design, but damn, they bite @ full speed.

That gotta hurt! I remember when I had broken a blade from my Athlon XP!!! My finger was painful for almost a week.

**Lightman** · 12-04-2007, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by mAJORD

hmm that sucks Aussie. haven't tried this xhair again.

The cheapo gigabyte M55 board though.. running perfectly. And actually has Ganged/unganged option.

was going well priming away on 4 cores, at least until my finger got a little close and.. Blood flowed.

Scratch 1 Phenom heatsink.

Effective and quiet buggers with the newer blade design, but damn, they bite @ full speed.

Have you called for nurse

She would definitely helped you OC that Phenom

Seriously tho it is good to know that boards I'm using for customers machines are supporting Phenom

**Aussie FX** · 12-04-2007, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by mAJORD

hmm that sucks Aussie. haven't tried this xhair again.

The cheapo gigabyte M55 board though.. running perfectly. And actually has Ganged/unganged option.

was going well priming away on 4 cores, at least until my finger got a little close and.. Blood flowed.

Scratch 1 Phenom heatsink.

Effective and quiet buggers with the newer blade design, but damn, they bite @ full speed.

Oh noes!

I hope you apologised to that poor fan.

**doompc** · 12-04-2007, 05:46 AM

If you can read Portuguese:
http://www.forumpcs.com.br/viewtopic.php?t=226293

Gigabyte:
M57SLI-S4
M56S-S3
M52S-S3P
M52L-S3
MA69VM-S2
MA69G-S3H
MA69GM-S2H
M61SME-S2
M61SME-S2L
M68SM-S2L

Asus:

MSI:

**LIKMARK** · 12-04-2007, 06:07 AM

Thanks for the answer AussieFX! I'll wait some more until they puts together a working bios then.. (hoping they won't drop priorities) Then it's a DFI for me (hoping some of the etailers in NOWAY wants to take DFI in stock again after the rd580x joke)

**Aussie FX** · 12-04-2007, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by LIKMARK

Thanks for the answer AussieFX! I'll wait some more until they puts together a working bios then.. (hoping they won't drop priorities) Then it's a DFI for me (hoping some of the etailers in NOWAY wants to take DFI in stock again after the rd580x joke)

No problem

We have the same problem in Australia now with DFI. It's unfortunate. The Nf4 Expert was the best motherboard I have ever used....

If you can't get the DFI, I didn't really have any issues with the Gigabyte, except the bios flash

**Blacklash** · 12-05-2007, 07:05 AM

Anyone ever had a knuckle swiped with one of those old three bladed TT Venus fans? That took some skin off :p

**Phili** · 12-05-2007, 11:02 PM

MSI K9N Platiunum & K9N SLI Platinum don't work, there's no beta bios for the phenom either... That's why I upgraded to a 790 FX mainboard

**kazgirl** · 12-06-2007, 01:52 PM

HI guys,

Ok I have a M2N32SLI-Deluxe mobo, and Phenom 9500...

I've flashed a M2n32sli-premium bios to it, and have managed to OC the Phenom to 3.0 GHz, but the HT issue is still a problem, and the BIOS is still a cause for problems....

The CPU Multu appears to be unlocked in the BIOS, and I've used this to OC it, but CPU-Z doesnt seem to work properly and Everest still displays the multi as stock but a higher CPU Freq.

Heres some screenshots of what I mean.... can someone please tell me if my CPU is multiplier unlocked upwards as it appears to be....!!!!!!

BIOS Pic showing the CPU Multipliers available
==================================

BIOS Pic after selecting x12 Multi and PU Freq on auto
========================================

Everest Screenshot after applying x12 CPU Multi
=====================================

Ok so you can see what I mean about the whole multiplier thing right....!!!

Now the latest I got is 3013MHz bu using a x15 CPU Multiplier, which Everest tranlsates as a CPU FSB of 274MHz on a x11 CPU Multi.....

Everest screenshot at 3.0GHz
======================

Windows Properties
==============

WPrime 32m
=========

I'm just wondering if anyone has got any ideas on how to get the HT link running at full speed on this mobo/cpu combo......?????

Current BIOS Pics
=============

**xVeinx** · 12-06-2007, 02:20 PM

The eVGA (and possibly all reference) 590 sli boards are not going to support Phenom (or the 6400+ windsor) ever, officially from eVGA. All support of the board has been dropped it appears (you can't even download the drivers for it anymore

)...

**kazgirl** · 12-06-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by xVeinx

The eVGA (and possibly all reference) 590 sli boards are not going to support Phenom (or the 6400+ windsor) ever, officially from eVGA. All support of the board has been dropped it appears (you can't even download the drivers for it anymore

)...

Hmm just as well this is an ASUS Board then with a Phenom supproting BIOS (Official)....

**jarthel** · 12-06-2007, 02:40 PM

it seems to me that the "drop-in" feature of AM2/AM2+/AM3 is just BS

except for a few boards

**Defleshed** · 12-06-2007, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by kazgirl

HI guys,

Ok I have a M2N32SLI-Deluxe mobo, and Phenom 9500...

I've flashed a M2n32sli-premium bios to it, and have managed to OC the Phenom to 3.0 GHz, but the HT issue is still a problem, and the BIOS is still a cause for problems....

The 1503-bios has some serious issues at performance department too.I had to downgrade to 1402 while using 5000+ BE.The difference was around 1000-1200 2006 3d Marks.Hopefully Asus will do something about it.

**Lightman** · 12-07-2007, 02:01 AM

@Kazgirl:
Can you run SuperPi at 3GHz to compare result + add CPU-Z screen and we will know for sure at what frequency this CPU is working

So far it looks very strange ...

**Mekoa** · 12-07-2007, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by Blacklash

Anyone ever had a knuckle swiped with one of those old three bladed TT Venus fans? That took some skin off :p

Almost did. However I did get my thumb caught in a Delta fan once, 80mm thing going at like 6000rpm. I dont think I can explain how sore that was.

Back on topic though, nice to see Crosshair has (some)BIOS support for Phenom. Gonna wait for BE to come out before I make a decision.

**mAJORD** · 12-07-2007, 03:27 AM

kazgirl, can you also try Wprime 1.55 instead of 1.54

cheers!

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