**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[C-N]

never going to beat a raptors access time until you see 10K sata drives from other companies.

Not drive for drive but You can get real close if you make a 20-25GB RAID0 slice with an Intel controller. (That is unless you also slice the Raptors)

Here are my 4 cheepo 80GB Hitachi DJ's with a 25GB slice on a ICH9R controller.

[silverphoenix]

How hot does every1's PWMS get?

I did the 4-40 bolt mod and I know its making good contact plus I have fans over it.

Current voltages are

Vcore 1.38V
MCH 1.52V (set)
CPU VTT 1.42
ICH stock
ICHIO stock

PWMs are hitting 81C under prime load

machine is clocked at 3.6ghz 9x400

[Ace-a-Rue]

Hi All,

Started putting together a new system with the IP35 Pro, E2180 and Ballistix DDR2-800.

The system originally booted-up quickly. But I realized I should only have one drive attached to install Windows, so I detached my other drives. Since then, the system takes over five minutes to get past the Post screens.

I've cleared the bios, swapped another set of ram but it still takes forever to get to Windows.

Any thoughts?

Update - the boot issues are at 52 - Memory Testing and 75 - USB initialization

Should I reflash my bios?

Update - reflashed the bios to the official 14. Still slow boot-up. Flashed it to the beta bios 16b03, still same problem.

Again, it just takes forever to process 52 - Memory Test and 75 - Detect IDE.

Anybody have any thoughts? It was working fine and fast in the beginning. It's also fine when it gets into Windows.

can you update your signature with the new info.

how many and what kind of drives?

did you clear cmos with the battery out and power cord unplugged for about five minutes?...make sure you push the power button once after unplugging the PSU power cord to dump all the capacitors of any stored current...then go through the cmos clearing with the battery out.

if you unhooked the drives at one time, CMOS might still have that data stored and it is looking for the drives and other USB devices that were once attached....it sounds like a conflict of assigned resources.

[Ace-a-Rue]

How hot does every1's PWMS get?

I did the 4-40 bolt mod and I know its making good contact plus I have fans over it.

Current voltages are

Vcore 1.38V
MCH 1.52V (set)
CPU VTT 1.42
ICH stock
ICHIO stock

PWMs are hitting 81C under prime load

machine is clocked at 3.6ghz 9x400

what did you use for TIM?

your temps are to high for PWM even under load...something is not right.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Not drive for drive but You can get real close if you make a 20-25GB RAID0 slice with an Intel controller. (That is unless you also slice the Raptors)

Here are my 4 cheepo 80GB Hitachi DJ's with a 25GB slice on a ICH9R controller.

darn good!...surprised at your access time...very close to a "single" raptor...didn't realize it would be down that low...i guess four drives does make a difference when you make the partition small.

[silverphoenix]

what did you use for TIM?

your temps are to high for PWM even under load...something is not right.

used artic silver ceramique. Before the boltmod and fan the pwms would hit 60-70C at stock volt and clock spds... I couldn't overclock because the temps would keep rising. now it seems to have just settled at 81C. I know it makes good contact I've looked at it after I mounted it, the bolts can even bend the mobo, but I loosened it a tiny bit so it won't bend so much.

[scwam]

i have many 120 x 38mm fans connected to the fan headers on this mobo...works great...you just want to have a good 12v feed from your PSU (amps that is).

What are those fans rated at in amps? I'd like to know because I definately said no to this when my Sanyo Denki's blew out 2 of my Fan controllers. They were rate .6 amps. My recent fan controller I didn't dare do this because my girlfriend brought it over from Japan and I don't want it blowing out.

Here is my 109g (including dual boot partioned) raid slice on 3 x 7200.10's (slim version) clean/fresh install, minimal drivers

[joshuaboston]

Wow, there have been alot of posts. To answer some questions, I have Crucail Ballitix Tracer DDR2800 and I am running two 320SATA on raid 0 using intels raid drives (I get a error message, and my screen hangs for about 15 seconds but if I press esc it goes the the next srcreen. When I went into the raid tools, I did not see any option to fix the problem only to delete and reinstall, which I will do for Vista). I also have two drives on IDE.

This is the first time I heard of good stories about Vista 64, I guess it is ready?

Thanks.

[silverphoenix]

ok I found out what was the problems with my pwm temps, the tiny 40mm fan I attatched had a HUGE hub and the air wasn't being pushed through properly. I attatched my Thermaltake Smartfan 80mm pushing 70CFM and now temps hover around 48-49C load

[AstroCreep]

Out of curiousity, why do then PMW temps get so much higher on a quad-core system? Something with the additional die on the CPU?

[fornowagain]

Out of curiousity, why do then PMW temps get so much higher on a quad-core system? Something with the additional die on the CPU?

Well yes, the overclocked quad is using a lot of wattage and so the current is higher. The byproduct is heat.

[myerz635]

ok I found out what was the problems with my pwm temps, the tiny 40mm fan I attatched had a HUGE hub and the air wasn't being pushed through properly. I attatched my Thermaltake Smartfan 80mm pushing 70CFM and now temps hover around 48-49C load

Haha i was just getting ready to respond to that but you figured it out.....i just added a 70mm fan from an old athlon 64 heatsink i had laying around.....dropped my temps from 71C load to 51C. Easy mod for a huge temp difference.

[myerz635]

Well yes, the overclocked quad is using a lot of wattage and so the current is higher. The byproduct is heat.

Yep, the tdp for core 2 duo is 65w as opposed to the q6600 at 105w.....q6600 with a significant overclock uses around 200 watts

[Ace-a-Rue]

ok I found out what was the problems with my pwm temps, the tiny 40mm fan I attatched had a HUGE hub and the air wasn't being pushed through properly. I attatched my Thermaltake Smartfan 80mm pushing 70CFM and now temps hover around 48-49C load

there you go!

[Ace-a-Rue]

Haha i was just getting ready to respond to that but you figured it out.....i just added a 70mm fan from an old athlon 64 heatsink i had laying around.....dropped my temps from 71C load to 51C. Easy mod for a huge temp difference.

AMEN brother!

[afireinside]

So I left it where it got stuck over night and 11 hours later I woke up and windows was installed. Go figure. RAID is slowwwwwwwwwwww though. 75mb read lows. Returning this thing to mwave. ASUS saves the day!

[BTK]

ordered Abit IP35-PRO

stuff i have

E6750
Scythe Infinity HSF
2x2GB Crucial Ballastix DDR2-800 PC2-6400
eVGA 8800GT 512MB
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA
Sony CD/DVD
CorsairHX 520W
Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

[myerz635]

ordered Abit IP35-PRO

stuff i have

E6750
Scythe Infinity HSF
2x2GB Crucial Ballastix DDR2-800 PC2-6400
eVGA 8800GT 512MB
Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM SATA
Sony CD/DVD
CorsairHX 520W
Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

Gonna be a nice build when its all done

[strange|ife]

MCH might need to be higher...i would have it set to at least in 1.4x area.

also, what is your ICHIO set to?

voltage changes have no effect. I even backed it down to 266fsb with a touch of mch and icihio set to 1.6, i dont like to roast my SB=D IDE mode is unstable aswell, so something happned.

1.29 MCH has always been stable for me at 400fsb, for 418 or higher i needed only 1.33 or max 1.4

anyway waiting on the cross sship still, if its not here tommrow, im gonna call dennis at abit and yell at him

[strange|ife]

noob. Buy a raid controller.

who you callin noob!

only a noob would buy an expensive raid card to run a mode that isnt even recognized as a form of true RAID, RAID 0. For the average user onboard is usually good enough

[AstroCreep]

who you callin noob!

only a noob would buy an expensive raid card to run a mode that isnt even recognized as a form of true RAID, RAID 0. For the average user onboard is usually good enough

...I think that his post was in reference to the post made by afireinside, since it came right after afireinside's post about a RAID.
But yeah, it was a harsh post.

[joshuaboston]

Maybe it was about me? Cause I mentioned in a earlier post that I puched a Promise RAID PCI IDE controller card for my two IDE drives. The point being I want more harddrive speed, the mobo does not provide IDE RAID 0 and it was ony $20.00. Not installing it untill after I install Vista 64 and I am not installing that until I recieve my 8800GT in about two weeks.

[Ace-a-Rue]

So I left it where it got stuck over night and 11 hours later I woke up and windows was installed. Go figure. RAID is slowwwwwwwwwwww though. 75mb read lows. Returning this thing to mwave. ASUS saves the day!

that's a shame...you have/had a hardware conflict...been there, done that, know that!

[Ace-a-Rue]

only a noob would buy an expensive raid card to run a mode that isnt even recognized as a form of true RAID, RAID 0. For the average user onboard is usually good enough

i don't get your meaning in your sentence: "buy an expensive raid card to run a mode that isnt even recognized as a form of true RAID, RAID 0"...care to give me some insight in to that?

[Knight]

i don't get your meaning in your sentence: "buy an expensive raid card to run a mode that isnt even recognized as a form of true RAID, RAID 0"...care to give me some insight in to that?

I think he means that Raid 0 is not redundant.