ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[ElEctric_EyE]

Asus update 6.0 will work I had the same problem as you, and worked 100%

I'm on Vista 32 tho may not work if you have 64 bit os

Yes, thanks for that, but it does not work on x64. There is a specific .dll error pointing to an NT incompatibility...

[kup]

I just got off the phone from Asus.
I was calling in regards to the problem I had a few days ago with bios 902.
I asked the tech guy what was the deal with removing bios 902?
He flat out denide the removal of the bios, I then mentioned 701 and 901.
His response was vague, so me being an a$$hole and my love for a good fight, I asked for a supervisor.
I then repeated everyhitng to him, and them mentioned I had to goto online forums for help and I found it pathetic that they could not help me, that there course of action was to blame my ram and RMA the board.
So they are offering me the Maximus Extreme if I send the SE back.

Are they gunna pay for your ram too? Seriously, Asus support are crap beyond belief!!!

How's the board working for you now, back on a decent bios? I had the same today with 0903...

[Warboy]

I just got off the phone from Asus.
I was calling in regards to the problem I had a few days ago with bios 902.
I asked the tech guy what was the deal with removing bios 902?
He flat out denide the removal of the bios, I then mentioned 701 and 901.
His response was vague, so me being an a$$hole and my love for a good fight, I asked for a supervisor.
I then repeated everyhitng to him, and them mentioned I had to goto online forums for help and I found it pathetic that they could not help me, that there course of action was to blame my ram and RMA the board.
So they are offering me the Maximus Extreme if I send the SE back.

But a Maximus Extreme is DDR3 only

[Grnfinger]

Back to bios 802 and all is good again.

Did not know the extreme was ddr3 only, ( freaking buggers ) would not be hard to unload my ddr2 tho.
I'm not sending it back anyways. I gotta foot the bill for shipping and I'm not redoing the water again

[cadaveca]

I just got off the phone from Asus.
I was calling in regards to the problem I had a few days ago with bios 902.
I asked the tech guy what was the deal with removing bios 902?
He flat out denide the removal of the bios, I then mentioned 701 and 901.
His response was vague, so me being an a$$hole and my love for a good fight, I asked for a supervisor.
I then repeated everyhitng to him, and them mentioned I had to goto online forums for help and I found it pathetic that they could not help me, that there course of action was to blame my ram and RMA the board.
So they are offering me the Maximus Extreme if I send the SE back.

LOLZ. Which branch of ASUS did you call? I really hope you accept this swap, as then precendent would be set for others to get the same treatment. If any other user with issues is not offered the same level of support, ASUS could be in for some issues! They really are not very good at support, are they? Well, let's replace your board with one that will make you spend MORE money...

[ElEctric_EyE]

I want to make this board work. It's an awesome x38 board for DDR2. I hope they don't make the assumption that just because we have the $$$ to buy an expensive mobo that we have $$$ for RAM too. I want a viable DDR2 X38 motherboard. DDR2 RAM is cheap and getting cheaper every day. I used to be loyal to ABIT, but found ASUS to be more leading edge... I hope they don't F us in the behind

[WFO]

This the last Asus board for me. I've never experienced such bad bios' on such good boards as with my Striker Extreme and this Maximus Formula...

I'm going to stick with Abit or DFI from now on, at least they get things right more often than Asus and their backwards bios'!!!!

I can't say anything about Abit but DFI is every bit as bad as you think Asus is, maybe worse. Their ICFX3200 T2R/G was a disaster. C1E memory errors with multiple known good sets ram. It also fried good parts for many. In my case a perfectly good x1950 crossfire card. Their P965 was no better. It couldn't run any version of Linux till a bios update released a few weeks ago. The P965 was also too PSU picky. I have a perfectly good PCP&C Silencer 750. 2 965 boards would not boot with it. ( 3 Asus boards have run great with the same PSU) Oddly the 3rd DFI 965 board booted and ran fine with a Silencer 610. I used to love DFI. No more!!! My experience... 5 of 10 DFI boards bad. 5 of 5 Asus boards have worked well. You might say 4 of 5 simply because I haven't OC'ed the Maximus yet. It ran fine for 10 days at stock settings folding 100% cpu 24/7 with a Q6600 G0 and Ballistix PC 8500 @1066. I'll know more about the Maximus in a couple weeks.

[safan80]

So far for me 0903 works great! used my 0901 settings... for about the first 30 minutes core temps were 5C higher than normal. Time to test Quake wars!

[ElEctric_EyE]

All versions of ASUS Update don't work on Vista x64 when trying to flash back to an older version. The older versions of updater have a problem with NT file systems and the newer versions have a problem recognizing the motherboard as ASUS. Guess I'll try AFUDOS next eh? Anyone running same setup help out abit?

[Grnfinger]

I tried afudos299 and it didnt work for me

[ElEctric_EyE]

0903 is working for me... I took pics of the BIOS settings under 0901 and tried EXACT duplication under 0903 and it wouldn't boot into BIOS. Need a little more time, but as far as i can tell the only settings i changed were the spread spectrum and PCIE spred spectrum from auto to disabled... I'll report back when I get this stable like 0901, and take a few other pics of 0903 BIOS...

[ElEctric_EyE]

No, edit to my previous post... Spread spectrum and PCIE spread spectrum are fine. I had to change my transaction booster to make 0903 work... Maybe it means transction booster is actually doing something now.

[ElEctric_EyE]

I beg forgiveness, with some tweaking and patience, I've broke 0901 record on my box and passed the 4GHz barrier with Q6600. Graphs are from bioshock all settings on high played for 5 min's stable... Going back to up the settings

[Aldy402]

@safan , on 0903 , does prime still restart on you?

[safan80]

@safan , on 0903 , does prime still restart on you?

I haven't tried prime. prime hasn't restarted on me at all. my system can be prime stable but it doesn't mean jacks***t.

[NysoO]

This 450fsb @ x8 is a real sweet spot.

[Warboy]

I haven't tried prime. prime hasn't restarted on me at all. my system can be prime stable but it doesn't mean jacks***t.

Safan, I got a question, My OCCT (Beta) doesn't break 75% on the test. No matter what. Whats up with that?

PS. No matter what Clock speed

[cadaveca]

cpu is drawing too much power for the board...EPU and TM2 conflict result in less than full cpu utilization. a few apps pick up on the multi-switch...Crystalcpuid, but i cannot reember which revision...old cpu-z used too to, but newer version does not seem able to detect the drop of multi...
OCCT loads up fine on my G0, as does PRime95, but my B3, which clocks far better on other boards, is not capable of same speeds on this board due to this bug.

[safan80]

Safan, I got a question, My OCCT (Beta) doesn't break 75% on the test. No matter what. Whats up with that?

PS. No matter what Clock speed

what do you have booting with the OS?

cpu is drawing too much power for the board...EPU and TM2 conflict result in less than full cpu utilization. a few apps pick up on the multi-switch...Crystalcpuid, but i cannot reember which revision...old cpu-z used too to, but newer version does not seem able to detect the drop of multi...
OCCT loads up fine on my G0, as does PRime95, but my B3, which clocks far better on other boards, is not capable of same speeds on this board due to this bug.

I have a B3 it has nothing to do with the chip. I've found that the more apps you have running the less cpu usage occt uses. I boot into vista with everything running and it doesn't go past 90% cpu usage. now if I boot into xp with only everest in start-up occt maxes out the cpu where as before when I used to boot into xp with everything running it wouldn't go past 90%.

as for the multi dropping on some bioses speedstep is enabled without an option to turn it off. With 0903 there's a speedstep option under the cpu section.

[Zucker2k]

OCCT uses all AVAILABLE CPU resources. ie. minus what other system resources are utilizing. p95 reports 100%, but that is probably a measurement of the current cpu level rather than what p95 is actually using. You can verify this by monitoring CPU performance under task manager while OCCT is running.

Theoretically, NO app. can utilize 100% CPU power because other OS resources always utilize some of that power all the time.

[safan80]

OCCT uses all AVAILABLE CPU resources. ie. minus what other system resources are utilizing. p95 reports 100%, but that is probably a measurement of the current cpu level rather than what p95 is actually using. You can verify this by monitoring CPU performance under task manager while OCCT is running.

Theoretically, NO app. can utilize 100% CPU power because other OS resources always utilize some of that power all the time.

I've never seen prime report 100% even occt's cpu reporting is off I always go by the task Manager.

[loften]

ok..i just started mine up for the very first time and it idled for about 2 min then the top hd3870 gpu got hot like starting to burn my finger hot. everything powered on and all fans were working. the bottom hd3870 was hardly warm..the cpu was at 36%c. i didn't have anything installed as it was the first power up so i switched cards/cables to see if it was maybe the card or a cable and the same happened. so i shut it back down... everything is brand new.. is it normal for the top gpu to get that hot? there is no softare installed yet and the hd3870 fans were spinning very slow i was going to start installing stuff untill i felt how hot it was.

[safan80]

ok..i just started mine up for the very first time and it idled for about 2 min then the top hd3870 gpu got hot like starting to burn my finger hot. everything powered on and all fans were working. the bottom hd3870 was hardly warm..the cpu was at 36%c. i didn't have anything installed as it was the first power up so i switched cards/cables to see if it was maybe the card or a cable and the same happened. so i shut it back down... everything is brand new.. is it normal for the top gpu to get that hot? there is no softare installed yet and the hd3870 fans were spinning very slow i was going to start installing stuff untill i felt how hot it was.

might be an ATI driver bug?

[cadaveca]

as for the multi dropping on some bioses speedstep is enabled without an option to turn it off. With 0903 there's a speedstep option under the cpu section.

Um, no, the speedstep option is in all bioses I have tried, but only available when multi is set to auto. So you disable it before manually setting multi...

I mention B3, as I have no load issues with G0, but my G0 also draws far less power than B3. I do not blame the chip, per se, but merely how the board handles the increased amperage from a B3. Other boards I have are not "plauged" by this issue...they simply work, don't work, or do a multi-bounce, as they should, under TM throttle. I assume that the "EPU" implementation is at fault, as this is the one major difference in cpu power regulation control between boards, other than the obvious number of phases to provide that power, and the type of PWM design.

[S1mon-]

I can't get my system to be P95 8 hours stable... when my appartment gets hot, my cores reach 85 degrees at full load which gives me a PC restart Seems like I'll need to go watercooling in a near future...

Sucks cuz my CPU can handle 3,8GHz at 1,38V only...