ORB -- I need to say this....
One heck of a fine (outstanding) job.
ORB -- I need to say this....
One heck of a fine (outstanding) job.
I think you are confused ... the multipliers on this CPU are locked, he cannot change them.Originally Posted by iMAX
same prob with you , can't change multiplier in bios,
can't run AMD Overdrive
He probably means lower multipliers.
Very good review, altough I find your conclusions somewhat strange. How can you judge overclocking when the highest your mobo gives is 230HTT? It wont hit 3.6Ghz I'm sure but this is unfair. And why is power consumption 'brutal' if it is only a few watts more under load?
Ohhhh, can't change the HTT multipliers... hmmmm sorry.He probably means lower multipliers.
Very good review, altough I find your conclusions somewhat strange. How can you judge overclocking when the highest your mobo gives is 230HTT? It wont hit 3.6Ghz I'm sure but this is unfair. And why is power consumption 'brutal' if it is only a few watts more under load?
In terms of the HTT not hitting 3.6 GHz, it is running 3.6 GHz (1800 Mhz x 2, AMD quotes their 'GHz' when they should quote MT/s).
A litle Babylonian confusion going on here.
I meant the cpu multiplier (as you said the cpu multi is locked) and 3.6Ghz cpu clock. The cpu clock probably wont hit 3.6Ghz, but given the results of this review its too early to label Phenom as a non overclackable cpu because the mobo cant go >230htt. Clearly the mobo is limiting the overclock.
In his conclusion OBR says that Phenom has no overclocking. So that struck me as odd. 'Brutal' power consumption also seems overdone, although the difference in load is quite high.
OBR did you give Overdrive a try?
Definitely miscommunication -- to quote a Paul Newman movie "What we have here is a failure to communicate"A litle Babylonian confusion going on here.
I meant the cpu multiplier (as you said the cpu multi is locked) and 3.6Ghz cpu clock. The cpu clock probably wont hit 3.6Ghz, but given the results of this review its too early to label Phenom as a non overclackable cpu because the mobo cant go >230htt. Clearly the mobo is limiting the overclock.
In his conclusion OBR says that Phenom has no overclocking. So that struck me as odd. 'Brutal' power consumption also seems overdone, although the difference in load is quite high.
OBR did you give Overdrive a try?my apologies.
I doubt you will see many hit 3.0 GHz. The > 230HTT may be a limit of the HTT rather than the mobo... as you suggested. So the HTT multi needs to be lowered.
@ORB, I don't read Czech -- could you explain to us if you tried changing the HT multiplier -- can it even be changed. Default is 9, but looking at your CPUID, it appears that the HTT is the culprit....
OK, if my Phenom can do a better OC, i will very happy ... i am sure this is not ptoblem with CPU, but mobo ... BUT WE NEED take OC of that all platform ... RD790FX + Phenom = No OC today, maybe in few weeks will be better but now No OC!He probably means lower multipliers.
Very good review, altough I find your conclusions somewhat strange. How can you judge overclocking when the highest your mobo gives is 230HTT? It wont hit 3.6Ghz I'm sure but this is unfair. And why is power consumption 'brutal' if it is only a few watts more under load?
Most important consumption is in IDLE! Because most of time are computers in IDLE ... think about it!
you should be able to squeeze up to 2.7 out of it before the htt walls give strife, but perhaps there are differences between boards.
Yeah here's hoping they get some of this straightened out. Seems they really managed to mess up this release. I blame hector
BTW, that last part, my PC is rarely at idle so that doesn't matter much to me
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ANY review thats show Phenom losing to c2q is in a winrar benchmark, clock for clock, is either fake or done by something who doesn't know what they are doing, so nice try obr, thx for nothing.
Who has a computer on IDLE here in Xtremesystems? You should be running F@H or something from the World Community Grid anytime your system is on.
BTW...I wonder why the motherboard BIOS's are basically CRAP right now? Hopefully, they'll figure this out before the end of 2007.
Because AMD undertook the near impossible task of attempting toWho has a computer on IDLE here in Xtremesystems? You should be running F@H or something from the World Community Grid anytime your system is on.
BTW...I wonder why the motherboard BIOS's are basically CRAP right now? Hopefully, they'll figure this out before the end of 2007.
deliver all three "Spider" platform components (CPU, MOBO, GPU)
to the Market at the same time.
To accomplish such an (overly?)optimistic goal, it's inevitable that
manufacturers will be pressured to push product out the door early
in order to coordinate the simultaneous launch.
My explanation certainly doesn't justify the rush-to-market, but it
does shed light on the current issues that are putting a "false ceiling"
on current performance.
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