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    Quote Originally Posted by flopper View Post
    so AMD "is" screwed then.
    Until they get a better technology out to make transistors work as they want them to.
    Can they survive that long?
    Yeah, sorta ... it get's worse. For barcelona, AMD thickened up the gate oxide because of leakage problems (by about 25&#37, what this does is ruins the transistor switching speed.

    This is harder to prove -- http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=202100946

    AMD's brisbane/65 nm process had exactly the same gate oxide thickness as Intel's -- see (unlinkable) IEDM 2005 proceedings, AMD's 65 nm process paper (sorry, need to use a library for that one )...

    So by thickening it up, they are trying to bring down gate leakage, but it is not going well by the looks of it.... Phenom at 2.4 Ghz is 125 Watts TDP... ouch. (BTW, you can email J. Boyd -- email in the article and ask if they thickened up, he will respond kindly as he did me )
    Last edited by JumpingJack; 11-27-2007 at 02:21 AM.

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