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    Seems we made our greatest error when we named it at the start
    for though we called it "Human Nature" - it was cancer of the heart
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
    I´m also right about 90nm for that matter. Everything that is strained is SiGe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
    This is is a better reference:
    http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=197003451

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    Let me see if I can describe where the SiGe is in this picture... (since it is copyrighted I cannot 'edit/draw' on it and repost it ) ....

    There is a dark dot at the top of the 'apex' buried under the slightly darker gray overlayer right on top of the transistors. Ok, that is the NiSi that helps with the contact resistance. Down below that dot and making up a lighter column is the poly-si gate electrode, follow that column of slighty 'lighter' contrast of the poly-si electrode to the point where it contacts the substrate (those rolling looking hills at the bottom).

    At that junction where the poly meets those 'hills' is the gate oxide (the resolution and size of this image makes it impossible to see the gate oxide, it is ultra thin). Go down into the hill about 1/3 of the way and look on either side where the area is slightly darker (for example, just above the 'M' in 'AMD' or just above the 'y' in the word 'layer' of the picture, as an example), you can see that each transistor has these to 'corner-like' darkened regions on either side of the gate electrode just beneath the silicon substrate .. this is the SiGe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
    This is is a better reference:
    http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.j...leID=197003451

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    Let me see if I can describe where the SiGe is in this picture... (since it is copyrighted I cannot 'edit/draw' on it and repost it ) ....

    There is a dark dot at the top of the 'apex' buried under the slightly darker gray overlayer right on top of the transistors. Ok, that is the NiSi that helps with the contact resistance. Down below that dot and making up a lighter column is the poly-si gate electrode, follow that column of slighty 'lighter' contrast of the poly-si electrode to the point where it contacts the substrate (those rolling looking hills at the bottom).

    At that junction where the poly meets those 'hills' is the gate oxide (the resolution and size of this image makes it impossible to see the gate oxide, it is ultra thin). Go down into the hill about 1/3 of the way and look on either side where the area is slightly darker (for example, just above the 'M' in 'AMD' or just above the 'y' in the word 'layer' of the picture, as an example), you can see that each transistor has these to 'corner-like' darkened regions on either side of the gate electrode just beneath the silicon substrate .. this is the SiGe.

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    Thanks. Interesting stuff. I'm a bit confused though now. What exactly is the difference between SGOI and SSOI, if any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
    Thanks. Interesting stuff. I'm a bit confused though now. What exactly is the difference between SGOI and SSOI, if any?
    SGOI is strained Germanium on Insulator. SSOI is strained silicon on insulator ...

    SGOI will be interesting if IBM ever gets it to work... I need to go back and look at the tables, but I think electron mobility in Ge is higher than Si but hole mobility is lower... hmmmmm

    EDIT: Check that, electron and hole mobility are both higher in Ge.

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    Last edited by JumpingJack; 11-27-2007 at 11:39 PM.

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