D.F.I 790FX 6400+ or Phenom 9500

[Brother Esau]

Hey guys wondering what to do in terms of getting a chip for this board,, what should I do get the 6400+ or Phenom 9500.....Please Hurry

[VulgarHandle]

6400 now, let K10 mature a bit...

or....

get your hands dirty ;D

[Brother Esau]

How is this 6400+ doing in terms of O.C? Or not getting any love and be better with 6000+

[NickS]

Both are doin around 3.4GHZ iirc.

[Start]

How about DFI 790FX + 5000+ BE and give me the spare cash

[M4D_H4773R]

ya what SP33DFR34K said, lol

[Brother Esau]

Hows about we stay on advice for me other than you, its for forum review and all the happy and unhappy campers in AMD Land

[Brother Esau]

Bump>>>>>>>>>>> For some input please!

[tsuehpsyde]

A bump after only a half hour? Sheesh.

Get a BE 5000+ and wait out Barcelona. That's what I'd do, anyway.

[Brother Esau]

Trying to spend money at last minute desicion You know how that goes But I got the 6400+ Black Edition

And I will be getting a duel socket F+ if they ever get the hooks out of their asses!

[Equil|briuM]

Get the Phenom, it's a no brainer.

[Brother Esau]

Nah........looking at performance and considering know bug with Errata I will wait for a couple of months for that also give some time for some user base to get this mobo and for Oskar to roll out some Bios.

[mAJORD]

Wait for B3 maybe.

Those who can make good use of the 4 cores though, and aren't fussed about overclocking go for it (phenom)

If not, 6400+

[OBR]

Phenoms are very bad ocers ... my 9500 is horrible crap ...
In high resolutions with good GFX are the games performance the same like on ultra high-end Intel as at 6400+ (oced 5000+ BE)

[Zytek_Fan]

6400+ for now. Phenom needs some tweaking.

[zanzabar]

q66 + quad gt, thats the same price and much better performance

[Brother Esau]

I already have a DFI P35 & Q6600 @ 3556MHZ

[gOtVoltage]

6400+ if you can get the nwest stepping.....Black5000's are 3.7ghz air from what ive read... Im curiouse if the 6400+ can finaly do that...Most of all i would really like to see some one break in a 9500-9600 and get a 3.0ghz on 4cores with the board its supose to be running on....Thats my 2cents

[aiya]

i'm curious when some of you guys say to wait for better phenoms. i'm guessing you mean a better revision/stepping?

i find it funny that DFI makes better AMD boards than Intel boards. i had a Ultra-D and still do, loved that board. does anybody know if DFI will make a 'Ultra-D' like board on AM2+ (single card config board)? i have the itch to jump back to AMD .

since the only thing i know that is bad about phenom 9500 right now is the errata bug, i would go for the 6400+.

[TEDY]

where do you guys see 5000+ BE

all i see is 2300,2350 and 2400 BE.

[gOtVoltage]

where do you guys see 5000+ BE

all i see is 2300,2350 and 2400 BE.

I dont mean to be rude but at least say which chip he should use it your gonna come here just for that,Also read info below on Stepping


From what i Know the G2 cores are the Newest BLACK 5000+, 5000+DOBOX and BE2400 and 5200+ DOBOX... (2300 /2350 are G1).... G2 is the best right now in BE land! So if you need a high GHZ Chip that is same stepping the BE/G2 core the numbers are below...

Items with DOBOX should all be G2 stepping . It is same as BE2400..for Volts, starting @1.25V/1.30v/1.35v and up...
ADO5200DOBOX
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Brisbane 2.7GHz Socket AM2 65W Processor Model ADO5200DOBOX



Processor AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core
Model 5000+
OPN Tray ADO5000IAA5DO
OPN PIB ADO5000DOBOX
Operating Mode 32 Bit Yes
Operating Mode 64 Bit Yes
Revision G2
Core Speed (Mhz) 2600
Voltages 1.325/1.35/1.375V
Max Temps (C) 55-68'C
Wattage 65 W
L1 Cache Size (KB) 128
L1 Cache Count 1
L2 Cache Size (KB) 1024
L2 Cache Count 1
L3 Cache Size (KB) 0
CMOS 65nm SOI
Socket AM2

The Older First Gen Cores G1 are also used in some 5000+Brisbane and Black Edition as in all BE 2300-2350


Most DDBOX Brisbanes are G1 including the first gen BlackBOX below

View Detail
Processor AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core
Model 5000+
OPN Tray N/A ADO5000IAA5DD
OPN PIB ADO5000DSWOF ADO5000DDBOX
Operating Mode 32 Bit Yes
Operating Mode 64 Bit Yes
Revision G1
Core Speed (Mhz) 2600
System Bus Speed (Mhz) 2000
Voltages 1.25V/1.35V
Max Temps (C) 55-72
Wattage 65 W
L1 Cache Size (KB) 128
L1 Cache Count 1
L2 Cache Size (KB) 1024
L2 Cache Count 1
L3 Cache Size (KB) 0
CMOS 65nm SOI

Hope this helps ya .....I always go By Core Revision....I am getting a// BE2400 for a buget build ...the mobo MSI K9N neo my brother has dosnt go higher than 1.3volts so know i can at leastget @ 2.6ghz with 1mb L2 @45watts

[zanzabar]

when they say be they mean black edition not the biz edition that has extra low power consumption


its rite here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...00%2bblack

[jimmyz]

Just buy it Campbell, you know you want it.

[Brother Esau]

Not a matter of want anymore Jim I had already bought the mobo when I posted this thread Decisions, decisions....whats a fella to do? O'h thats right I forgot I am AMD's future

[ZL1Killa]

i wouldn't get teh 6400+ BE, i was reading on here earlier that its multiplier was locked. and the 5000+ BE was unlocked. but people already have some results with the 5000+BE... so idk...

having the 6400+BE overclocked since i haven't seen anyone do it yet would be nice...and it would be great to see what you do with that DFI motherboard

if you are ever looking at someone to sell the DFI790 or the 6400 to once you review it, LOL, i call dibs!! LOL!!!