ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[Warboy]

Hi, sorry but I wasn't 'trying to make an arguement' don't be so testy. I was merely adding to the debate, friends now?
Chris

Well, I'm not getting hasty, anyways, Its not a debate when I've already won :P

[Grnfinger]

are the temps better for bios 901?

I'm running a little hot on 802 under OCCT, have to open a window or else it fails after 20 mins "CPU To HOT!"
or can I just raise the cpu limit in OCCT to 80 or something?

[Warboy]

are the temps better for bios 901?

I'm running a little hot on 802 under OCCT, have to open a window or else it fails after 20 mins "CPU To HOT!"
or can I just raise the cpu limit in OCCT to 80 or something?

Just edit the options in OCCT to 90-99C, Or cool your cpu better

[Grnfinger]

Thinking on adding another rad to the loop
1 220 rad is clearly not enough

Will edit OCCT tho ;-)

[TheSamurai]

I have the following question:

I´ve got the board "ASUS Maximus" and two of the 160 GB SAT2 WD1600YS fixed disks. I want to create a RAID0. When I set the RAID in BIOS and reboot the computer, it freezes at the begining of the start monitor. Only when I pull the SATA cables it will reboot. Where is the mistake? Who can help me? I spoke with the ASUS support and they told me that my power supply unit with 500 Watt is not enough. I should buy me a 800 Watt power supply unit. Is this possible?

lol, i highly doubt that it's your PSU. use the clear cmos button and start again.

were you able to boot with it on stock settings?

[Darkstormz]

I took some time today now to remove the heatsink from the NB and the SB, clean up the stock TIM and replace it with AS5. It took ages to clean the heatsinks up because of the stuff which ASUS have used. It requires constant heating up with a hairdryer and plenty of TIM remover to get it all off.

Anyways, with the same scenario as I previously mentioned, NB temps are now down between 6 and 8 degrees to around 36 degrees celsius at load.

Well worth the effort

Are you on water or aircooling for your northbridge?
My temps seems kinda high. ~50c@load with aircooling on the NON-SE.
Maybe I have to reseat the thing once again...*bleh*

[KRich]

Are you on water or aircooling for your northbridge?
My temps seems kinda high. ~50c@load with aircooling on the NON-SE.
Maybe I have to reseat the thing once again...*bleh*

The NB is air cooled. I also just switched out the 34CFM fan that was blowing over that area with a 68CFM one but it hasn't made any extra difference. The NB is still between 36 and 38 degrees celsius after several hours of OCCT RAM mode.

[jonny_ftm]

I'm running beta OCCT, I can't get anything stable in it, no matter what.

right now I'm using

Well, I was also about to ask you to check your RAM sticks, but you already got it. I feel like your Ballistix are dieing...

This board sounds like it destroys memory. What destroys memory is overvoltage. So definetely, this board overvolts the RAM or it won't die that fast with many people. The spikes in OCCT could be true.

GAR, I remember, also noted some strange voltage behaviour with this mb

And 2.2v on your Ballistix, shouldn't kill them so fast

[Sgt. Slaughter]

Renegade, I used your bios settings and my Q6600 and is now running 4.05ghz. CPU is running 52 degrees C. How do I post the attachemnt from CPU-Z? I backed off on the NB voltage as it was showing red in ProbeII. Thanks for the help.

[Synicalcop]

Well, I was also about to ask you to check your RAM sticks, but you already got it. I feel like your Ballistix are dieing...

This board sounds like it destroys memory. What destroys memory is overvoltage. So definetely, this board overvolts the RAM or it won't die that fast with many people. The spikes in OCCT could be true.

GAR, I remember, also noted some strange voltage behaviour with this mb

And 2.2v on your Ballistix, shouldn't kill them so fast

I was thinking the same thing about your ballistix dieing, my previous set of ballistix pc8500 died after 3 months at 2.2v with 2x80mm aircooling over them. These d9 stix all die after 3-6 months at anything over 2.0v without aircooling and if you run them at 1100 or 1200 they will die after 2 months. Ive been through 4 sets in the last 6 months, they literally burn your finger to the touch. On a side note my last set killed my GA-p35-dq6 so i bought the Maximus Non SE and a set of ocz platinum xtc 2x 2gb 5-4-4-15 and so far so good.

This board detected my previous 4 disk raid 0 , and booted my q6600 at 3.6ghz the first shot with the 401 bios. The vdroop is horrible 1.54 bios = 1.44 load and my q6600 needs 1.46 under load to stay stable. I hope the Loadline and vdroop will be fixed with the 901 bios.

[Renegade5399]

Renegade, I used your bios settings and my Q6600 and is now running 4.05ghz. CPU is running 52 degrees C. How do I post the attachemnt from CPU-Z? I backed off on the NB voltage as it was showing red in ProbeII. Thanks for the help.

Anytime! Glad your Quad is screaming. Is it OCCT stable? Don't worry about the red. That can be adjusted in the settings of PC ProbeII. As far as a CPUz screenie: Just take a screenshot and host it somewhere like cyberimpressions.net or photobucket.com or something. They give you a forum link you can paste into here.

I was thinking the same thing about your ballistix dieing, my previous set of ballistix pc8500 died after 3 months at 2.2v with 2x80mm aircooling over them. These d9 stix all die after 3-6 months at anything over 2.0v without aircooling and if you run them at 1100 or 1200 they will die after 2 months. Ive been through 4 sets in the last 6 months, they literally burn your finger to the touch. On a side note my last set killed my GA-p35-dq6 so i bought the Maximus Non SE and a set of ocz platinum xtc 2x 2gb 5-4-4-15 and so far so good.

This board detected my previous 4 disk raid 0 , and booted my q6600 at 3.6ghz the first shot with the 401 bios. The vdroop is horrible 1.54 bios = 1.44 load and my q6600 needs 1.46 under load to stay stable. I hope the Loadline and vdroop will be fixed with the 901 bios.

Flash to 0802 for crying out loud. Loadline calibration was fixed in like 0502 or something like that. Stop running an ancient BIOS and you'll get better results.

[Darkstormz]

I just ordered 2 x Thermalright HR-05 IFX and 1 x HR-09 U Type 2 and 1 x HR-09 S Type 2.
Hopefully I will get these at the end of next week. And hopefully my temps will drop a bit...

Ne1 got any experience with this combo ?

[Synicalcop]

Anytime! Glad your Quad is screaming. Is it OCCT stable? Don't worry about the red. That can be adjusted in the settings of PC ProbeII. As far as a CPUz screenie: Just take a screenshot and host it somewhere like cyberimpressions.net or photobucket.com or something. They give you a forum link you can paste into here.



Flash to 0802 for crying out loud. Loadline calibration was fixed in like 0502 or something like that. Stop running an ancient BIOS and you'll get better results.

I flashed to 901 and loadline calibration works wonders even gives a 0.01vboost under load

Loving this board so far, gonna mount 2x80 mm over the chipset though cause its running hot.

[Renegade5399]

Sorry if that came off as brash. Wasn't intended that way. I was just typing what I was thinking verbatim.

[safan80]

funny, at 3.825 im OCCT beta stable

but i cant run large prime for more then 20 minutes without an automatic bluescreen/restart

@safan80. thanks!

yeah I have the same problem. if I'm prime stable then the system is unstable, but if I'm occt stable the only thing that doesn't work is prime lol.

How hot is everyone else's Northbridge running?

I'm entirely on air, but I have good airflow in my case and mine runs a good 55-62 degrees celsius. That seems really really hot to me, but perhaps all you guys getting better temps are watercooling.

it's not hot for the chipset. I have the same temps. the chipset can handle up to 90C.

[Aldy402]

yeah I have the same problem. if I'm prime stable then the system is unstable, but if I'm occt stable the only thing that doesn't work is prime lol.

it's not hot for the chipset. I have the same temps. the chipset can handle up to 90C.

i've upped almost every voltage and im positive its not a voltage issue
im OCCT stable with the slider in every direction lol

but at 3.6GHZ im perfectly prime stable for hours + OCCT but with 3.8, its a crap shoot

ironically it never crashes or freezes on me.. got any ideas? have you tried to up voltages?

[safan80]

i've upped almost every voltage and im positive its not a voltage issue
im OCCT stable with the slider in every direction lol

but at 3.6GHZ im perfectly prime stable for hours + OCCT but with 3.8, its a crap shoot

ironically it never crashes or freezes on me.. got any ideas? have you tried to up voltages?

yeah I have. I think it's an issue with the 64bit version of prime for me.

it doesn't bother me because I've got my system stable.

[Talonman]

I have been collecting some RAID posts related to getting it to work with the Maximus SE.

If you care to take a peek, look here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...00#post2579500

[Aldy402]

yeah I have. I think it's an issue with the 64bit version of prime for me.

it doesn't bother me because I've got my system stable.

well im using 32 prime and we're having the same problem
so you could probably strike that theory..

[TheSamurai]

i added in some info in talonman's raid thread posted above...

[thelawns]

You just made my day, I'm deciding on WC my NB but finding an appropriate cooler for the SB was holding me back. I already have a new hr05 ifx and sli version here but now I know that they will fit with no problem.

Edit: are you using the SLI version on the SB ?

Hi, no i'm using the normal IFX version on the SB but as you can probably see its a tight fit and is slightly off straight but as the SB is a smaller chip it really doesn't matter!

[Talonman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
@ Thelawns, What version of the HR-09 did you recieve? Since the relesse of P35's, there are now "3" sizes (type 1,2,3) of same "2" types ("U" for straight up, & "S" for slant) to choose from.

Type 3 has the shortest "big side" of 58mm and "short side" of 46mm. Types 1 & 2 each have "big sides" of 84mm. Type 2 has the longest "small side of 70mm while type 1 has a 61mm "small side", and type 3 has the smallest "small side" of 46mm.

I will look into what I used but I do remember the ones I used had clrearence issues with the slide on brakets around the rear mossfets so I made my own bracket from steel BBQ barb skewer with 3mm holes or through bolts from bottom. Thet fit so much snugger then ever. I had to do it first on my old ASUS A8N-SLI cause we had only the 1 ytpe to choose (the ones from my ASUS P5WDG2-WS) and had to even trim the copper base a notch to fit my bolts in.

Hope this helps, again, I will look if you dont find the right size by then.

Well what a saga. It would appear I have the type 1 versions of the HR-09 and the other two types are not available in the UK from what I can tell. I have been on to the UK distributor to see if some can be sent over from abroad... I may end up just fitting the original Asus mosfet back on by the look of it though!

Have fitted both of the NB/SB HR-05 IFX now and I am just about to fit the Ultra 120 eXtreme to the CPU. Only concern with the NB was that the base of the heatsink didn't cover the whole chip. I guess thats normal for these though?

It has given me an excuse to route the cables and have a bit of a tidy up but I just want it all back together now for the weekend!!

I thought I would try some out too. I just received (1) HR-09U L84 x W17 x H48mm, and (1) HR-09S L84 x W32.3 x H48mm from FrozenCPU. Does anybody know it these will have any mounting issues on the SE?

I will report back, on how they fit on the mobo.

[MoogyMonster]

I've looked through this thread, but am still a bit confused about a few things.

First, I just got rid of my eVGA 680i (I went through 3 of them, the 3rd fried RAM AGAIN – and the RAM wasn’t even OC’d!) and got a Maximus Formula SE. I have a 3060 CPU and a liquid cooled system (4GB PC8500, 8800GTX and 7950GTX (3 monitors) 800w PSU, etc.

I specifically got the 3060 to overclock and ran it without any issues (other than the 680i being junk) @ 3.6GHz.

The problem is I’m not an OC expert by any means – I can figure the basic stuff out, but not the more detailed/complex stuff. I understand all of the basic FSB/voltage details, but where I get lost are the support details/voltages (i.e. upping the FSB to 1600 and then adjusting the voltages of the bridges to support the change).

I was hoping to get some pointers here as to good safe voltages for the subsystems.

My goal is to run the 3060 @ 3.6GHz again, meaning a 1600 FSB. 1.5v on the CPU has worked fine for this, but I do not know what voltages need to be adjusted for the support systems.

Any recommendations?

[TheSamurai]

moogymonster, check the manual for the voltage ranges. my first attempt, i put them all to the highest "green" level i could (except for dram) and then kept overclocking till it was unstable. then i tweaked them from there. the thing is, you really just have to play around and read, read, read!!

[MoogyMonster]

OK I did a bit of research, but am having some issues. Here's what I've got.

With my 680i, my settings were:
FSB 1600
CPU 1.5v
RAM 2.2v
FSB 1.5v
SPP 1.45v
SPP<->MCP 1.4

Those settings with the eVGA 680i were perfect. 3.6GHz, no blue screens.

Now, with the Maximus Formula SE, I blue screen right upon entry into Vista x64 (past the menu select). It seems to be when the video is supposed to initialize.

My Maximus settings are:
Ratio 9, Freq 400 (CPU is Intel 3060)
CPU 1.5v
CPU PLL 1.6v
NB 1.49v
DRAM 2.2v
FSB Term 1.4v
SB 1.15v
SB 1.5 - 1.6v

Note ALL others (except Spread Spectrum for CPU and PCIe which are off) are set to AUTO.

Now, a few questions. What is SB 1.5? Also, which voltage looks like it may be off?

Can anyone explain what SPP/MCP was on the 680i, and what the "similiar" settings (if any) are on the Maximus.

Note my RAM settings are just fine since I'm running clear with them.

Any feedback would be appreciated.