ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[thelawns]

@ Thelawns, What version of the HR-09 did you recieve? Since the relesse of P35's, there are now "3" sizes (type 1,2,3) of same "2" types ("U" for straight up, & "S" for slant) to choose from.

Type 3 has the shortest "big side" of 58mm and "short side" of 46mm. Types 1 & 2 each have "big sides" of 84mm. Type 2 has the longest "small side of 70mm while type 1 has a 61mm "small side", and type 3 has the smallest "small side" of 46mm.

I will look into what I used but I do remember the ones I used had clrearence issues with the slide on brakets around the rear mossfets so I made my own bracket from steel BBQ barb skewer with 3mm holes or through bolts from bottom. Thet fit so much snugger then ever. I had to do it first on my old ASUS A8N-SLI cause we had only the 1 ytpe to choose (the ones from my ASUS P5WDG2-WS) and had to even trim the copper base a notch to fit my bolts in.

Hope this helps, again, I will look if you dont find the right size by then.

Also, you can still get the Intel 82801 ICH9R iostar RAID driver installed on current OS but it is trickier, and especially sine we ahve no 2nd SATA controller to use. I'll explain more if needed, here for others or in PM if you'd like.

Good luck!

Well what a saga. It would appear I have the type 1 versions of the HR-09 and the other two types are not available in the UK from what I can tell. I have been on to the UK distributor to see if some can be sent over from abroad... I may end up just fitting the original Asus mosfet back on by the look of it though!

Have fitted both of the NB/SB HR-05 IFX now and I am just about to fit the Ultra 120 eXtreme to the CPU. Only concern with the NB was that the base of the heatsink didn't cover the whole chip. I guess thats normal for these though?

It has given me an excuse to route the cables and have a bit of a tidy up but I just want it all back together now for the weekend!!

[Talonman]

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Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs
@ Thelawns, What version of the HR-09 did you recieve? Since the relesse of P35's, there are now "3" sizes (type 1,2,3) of same "2" types ("U" for straight up, & "S" for slant) to choose from.

Type 3 has the shortest "big side" of 58mm and "short side" of 46mm. Types 1 & 2 each have "big sides" of 84mm. Type 2 has the longest "small side of 70mm while type 1 has a 61mm "small side", and type 3 has the smallest "small side" of 46mm.

I will look into what I used but I do remember the ones I used had clrearence issues with the slide on brakets around the rear mossfets so I made my own bracket from steel BBQ barb skewer with 3mm holes or through bolts from bottom. Thet fit so much snugger then ever. I had to do it first on my old ASUS A8N-SLI cause we had only the 1 ytpe to choose (the ones from my ASUS P5WDG2-WS) and had to even trim the copper base a notch to fit my bolts in.

Hope this helps, again, I will look if you dont find the right size by then.

Well what a saga. It would appear I have the type 1 versions of the HR-09 and the other two types are not available in the UK from what I can tell. I have been on to the UK distributor to see if some can be sent over from abroad... I may end up just fitting the original Asus mosfet back on by the look of it though!

Have fitted both of the NB/SB HR-05 IFX now and I am just about to fit the Ultra 120 eXtreme to the CPU. Only concern with the NB was that the base of the heatsink didn't cover the whole chip. I guess thats normal for these though?

It has given me an excuse to route the cables and have a bit of a tidy up but I just want it all back together now for the weekend!!

I thought I would try some out too. I just received (1) HR-09U L84 x W17 x H48mm, and (1) HR-09S L84 x W32.3 x H48mm from FrozenCPU. Does anybody know it these will have any mounting issues on the SE?

I will report back, on how they fit on the mobo.

[thelawns]

I thought I would try some out too. I just received (1) HR-09U L84 x W17 x H48mm, and (1) HR-09S L84 x W32.3 x H48mm from FrozenCPU. Does anybody know it these will have any mounting issues on the SE?

I will report back, on how they fit on the mobo.

I think you'll find they won't fit mate. They are the Type 1 versions and the same as the ones I had. Its definately the Type 2 versions you need but as I have already said I can't get them in the UK. I have since refitted the original Asus mosfet cooler and its running cooler than it was before anyway! I can only assume this is because the rest of the board is better cooled and the mosfets aren't linked up to the NB via the heatpipe...

[T2k]

Just updated BIOS from 701 to 901 hoping it will help if it's a temp reading error but no luck - it seems there's no workaround, CPU got too much compound, I have to remove the Storm and clean it... should've checked it before I have mounted...

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just updated BIOS from 701 to 901 hoping it will help if it's a temp reading error but no luck - it seems there's no workaround, CPU got too much compound, I have to remove the Storm and clean it... should've checked it before I have mounted...

This is not only normal for current BIOS since v0701, but moe on par for what the average combined core temps are, opposed to as before (reading only IHS surface temp). Use your favorite temp monitoring to confirm. If the BIOS temp you got looks close to the core temps (averaged) then you're fine. CPU temp in ASUS Probe is still reading IHS.

Of course the Storm doesn't know, it was designed when single core processors were the norm it is an impingement design where all the cooling is directed at where the single core would be, so on a quad a core of 2 cpu's is not having and coolant put over it so therefore 2 cores run much higher temps than the other.
Also it doesn't work properly on a dual core cpu for the same reason.

This is hardly true. Granted, water blocks are getting better then the past 5 yrs, CPU's are getting cooler and easier to keep there too on both air and water. Regaedless of cooler, an old Athlon XP Barton was harder to keep cool under high OC then even a B3 quad, and twice as easy as the earliest core 2's. So Any cooler built for the,m or the Intel D's will do the jobe on these quads.

The difference is quality. If it was low end then, it's less today. Look into the Swiftech's for better water cooling. I use them and like them for both CPU & chipset.

Also NOTE; as I said so many times on these forums, prepperation is the key to performance. propperly & completely, remove the previous TIM if it was different, and propperly clean if it was same but exposed to grease (fingers, and so on). The reaction of two different compounds can actually hinder the thermal transfer efficancy, and work against it as a blanket or insulator. So clean, clean, clean. Rubbing alcohal is not enough. Remove 1st wth non residu degreasing agent (automotive carb or break cleaner) swabbed on & worked over good with a soft brush, followed by 99% Alchohal (A/V head cleaner strength).

God luck to all!

[kimandsally]

This is hardly true. Granted, water blocks are getting better then the past 5 yrs, CPU's are getting cooler and easier to keep there too on both air and water. Regaedless of cooler, an old Athlon XP Barton was harder to keep cool under high OC then even a B3 quad, and twice as easy as the earliest core 2's. So Any cooler built for the,m or the Intel D's will do the jobe on these quads.

God luck to all!

A Barton 2500 overclocked to 2700MHz with 2.0v is 148 Watts

A B3 Quad 2400 overclocked to 3600MHz with 1.4v is 198 Watts

I hope not to cause arguments but I thought this had to be shown.

The Barton would be pretty good to do 2700 and 2v is quite high I think, where the Quad clocked to 3.6MHZ is very average with VERY low volts of 1.4

More likely the Quad would go to 3.8 @ 1.6v which would be 272 Watts

That's why they take a bit of cooling.

This is only here to maybe help show why and not put forward as an argument just some plain easy mathematical facts.

[T2k]

Since it's better to be prepared I just ordered a Fuzion... just in case, if no reseating, splitting loops etc would help then I will have another ace in my sleeve to try... only ~$70 shipped w/ 3-day UPS only, not a huge sum anyway.

[thelawns]

A Barton 2500 overclocked to 2700MHz with 2.0v is 148 Watts

A B3 Quad 2400 overclocked to 3600MHz with 1.4v is 198 Watts

I hope not to cause arguments but I thought this had to be shown.

The Barton would be pretty good to do 2700 and 2v is quite high I think, where the Quad clocked to 3.6MHZ is very average with VERY low volts of 1.4

More likely the Quad would go to 3.8 @ 1.6v which would be 272 Watts

That's why they take a bit of cooling.

This is only here to maybe help show why and not put forward as an argument just some plain easy mathematical facts.

How do you work this out?

My C2D E6550 2.33ghz is running at 3.514ghz at 1.36v, so whats that in watts??

[Talonman]

I think you'll find they won't fit mate. They are the Type 1 versions and the same as the ones I had. Its definately the Type 2 versions you need but as I have already said I can't get them in the UK. I have since refitted the original Asus mosfet cooler and its running cooler than it was before anyway! I can only assume this is because the rest of the board is better cooled and the mosfets aren't linked up to the NB via the heatpipe...

Ouch!!

Thanks for the info.

What did you use to remount the stock sinks with? Thurmal pads?