ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[Simps]

The problem is that 0802 is trying to use your manually set NB/RAM strap and divider. Clear the CMOS (Power down, hold rear CMOS button in for 10seconds, power up again) and then set the strap to Auto instead of manually setting it.

Man, I have done that already... Still lock on DET DRAM.
I have also tried some value 533Mhz ram, because I thought my 2.4V Corsair RAM wasn't making it into deefault 1.8V, after the BIOS update...

I still can't post... Everything was working fine, until 802 BIOS.
How can I get out of this one?

[]'s
Simps

[BulldogPO]

What is changed in 0802?

[kup]

Sir Kup, how's the modding of the new BIOS coming along? although I'm not sure what on earth is better to use these days, every BIOS has different problems and I'm pretty stable with my setup at the moment. Maybe I should just wait another few months for the next release...

I'll get in done within the hour. Sorry, been playing with 0802 too much...

Can you explain how you mounted the fans, or maybe even take a photo, thanks???

I'll take a pic and post it up here at the same time as sorting out the Bios for Devilhood, gimme 30mins. It's a proper ghetto mod, so you'll be impressed!

EDIT:

Bios 0802 has so far allowed me to get 10MHz more from the FSB with this Quad. Every other bios crapped out @ 450MHz with the Anandtech settings, 0802 is happily running OCCT 1.2b RAM test right now! Using these settings:

450FSB Quad-Core BIOS Settings
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto] (Defaults to 400MHz Strap)
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [Auto]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [42]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [Set what you need here...]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.16v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]

The best thing is the performance hasn't dropped one single bit, if anything it's improved at the same clocks!

[kup]

Man, I have done that already... Still lock on DET DRAM.
I have also tried some value 533Mhz ram, because I thought my 2.4V Corsair RAM wasn't making it into deefault 1.8V, after the BIOS update...

I still can't post... Everything was working fine, until 802 BIOS.
How can I get out of this one?

[]'s
Simps

Take out all but 1 stick of ram, and then clear the CMOS and try to boot. You might find that more than 1 stick is too much for the default vDimm of 1.8v (or is it 1.9v?)?

[eSp!s0]

Anyone getting better than 55-56ns latencies?

[kup]

Right, here are my 2x80mm fans...proper bodge job this, but it works for now. I'll fashion a bracket of some sort soon...





It's sitting on an old Abit Serialle SATA converter to lift it up and it's wedged under the molex for the DVDRW...

It works...

[TheSamurai]

OMG, I still can't get my system to POST, after I flashed to 802 BIOS.
System will just not go into POST (so I can't access the bios), and on the LCD POSTER it is locked on DET DRAM...

Has anyone ever had a problem like this?

I really need some help...

[]'s
Simps

that's happened to me a couple times. i just turn off the PSU and hold the clear cmos button for awhile and then it boots fine. i go right into bios and change what needs to be changed.

[egandt]

My System:
Intel QX9650 (OEM)
Asus Maximus Formula SE (Modified)
Removed all stock heatsinks (what a pain)
SB: is a tall pure copper heatsink, with pins removed as needed to fit in cards
NB: Danger Den NB Cooler
Voltage regulators: Mosfet ASUS 3 x2 (modified to fit between capacitors)
CPU: Danger Den CPU block
Pump: DD12V-D5 (on max #5)
Radiator: Black Ice GTX240
Water Loop: CPU -> NB -> Mosfet -> Mosfet
CPU Temp under full load: 63c
BIOS: 0802 or 0701 I'm playing around
Video: ATI 3870
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 1GB PC8500 x 4 = 4GB
RAID: Promise EX8350: 5x400GB = 2TB
Boot: 2x Raptor 150MB in RAID0 = 289MB
Audio: X-Plosion 7.1
HD Tunner: HD Homerun
OS: Vista x64 Ultimate, Windows XP x64 SP2


BIOS Settings that count:
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Manual]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [10]
FSB Frequency [406]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1077]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [AUTO]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [AUTO]
Write Recovery Time [AUTO
Read To Precharge Time [AUTO
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [AUTO
Write To Read Delay(S) [AUTO]
Write To Read Delay(D) [AUTO
Read To Read Delay(S) [AUTO]
Read To Read Delay(D) [AUTO]
Write To Write Delay(S) [AUTO]
Write To Write Delay(D) [AUTO]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.36125]
CPU PLL Voltage [1.58]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61]
DRAM Voltage [2.16]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.61]
South Bridge Voltage [1.10]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.5]

Results:
So that gets me 4060MHz in BIOS or 4040MHz in Windows, and a a memory clock of 1077MHz at CAS5. I stopped at 4GHZ on the CPU as anything more as not prime95 stable at this voltage (although at this voltage it could finish Super Prime at up to 4.3GHz) and I was unwilling to go any higher on the Voltages for 24x7 use.


ERIC GANDT

[rabor]

@ safan80, It's not looking like X48 mobos are gonna be DDR2, (points to DDR3 only) even if the chipset might or can support it. So for us on this mobo w/ X38, looks liek it's gonna' be the best overall stepping stone to X48 on DDR3 and hopefully, ICH10R by summer. X48 on DDR3 should hit shelves aong w/ Penryn release early next year.

I think that rev 2 of the MAXIMUS FORMULA may either be a DDR3 or X48 version. Who's heard anything about this other then from Clunks living review?

Dunno about Asus' X48 plans, so you might be right that they'll only produce DDR3's, but still that's only speculation..

Gigabyte however starts retailing their DDR2 GA-X48-DQ6 in Germany & Austria this week..

[mXpS]

So far I have been able to the e6850 up to 4.140 (9x460). I have't tried for max FSB yet, but I'll probably give that try tonight.

If I go higher like to a 470 FSB with the 9x, I get a BSOD so I think it has to with the RAM and straps. Any ideas or thoughts?

[thelawns]

Right, here are my 2x80mm fans...proper bodge job this, but it works for now. I'll fashion a bracket of some sort soon...

It's sitting on an old Abit Serialle SATA converter to lift it up and it's wedged under the molex for the DVDRW...

It works...

Lol, awesome bodge job their then!!!

I have an Antec Spot Cool pointing at my Memory/NB, see below:



I also have a Thermalright Ultra 120 waiting to be fitted but I can't be bothered to take it all apart at the moment!!!

[kup]

Bios 0802 has now given me 465MHz OCCT 1.2b RAM stable. Same settings and voltages as posted above. On previous bios' this was maxing @ 450MHz!

I'm a fan of this new bios!

EDIT: And i don't have the temp bugs with it, Cores are reading correctly, as always and the "CPU" temp in Everest or PC Probe is now reading correctly again (as opposed to 0701/2)!

[Renegade5399]

I just hang a 120mm fan off one of the mounting posts for my water block. Works perfect!

EDIT: Kup which everest are you using?

[kup]

Everest Ultimate 4.20.1170. Been working well for me. Same Everest version since I got the board, so it can't be Everest midreading, it's the output the bios gives that Everest reads for the "CPU" temp, and then it reads the cores directly for the Individual Core Temps.

[kup]

Anyone notice how Bios 0701 has been removed from the FTP?

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ximus_Formula/

[thelawns]

I did only moments ago while looking for the 0802 bios... Obviously something not right with that!!!

[cuke2u]

Hi, has been gone all day, also has been removed from the http:\\asus site as well...
Chris

[ShawnTRD]

I just hang a 120mm fan off one of the mounting posts for my water block. Works perfect!

EDIT: Kup which everest are you using?

picture?

[devilhood]

Hi, has been gone all day, also has been removed from the http:\\asus site as well...
Chris

This is not the first time ASUS has removed a BIOS from their site.

It happened to a P5W64-WS Pro release as well.

[Renegade5399]

picture?

Sure!

Flash On:


Flash Off:

[thelawns]

I'm guessing the small fan at the bottom is blowing onto the mobo, but the large fan on the memory is pulling air off?? Or is it blowing onto it too?

[kup]

Anandtech settings for 450MHz got me to 465MHz OCCT 1.2b RAM stable with the 0802 bios. I then encounter then usual inability to go a single MHz more regardless of what voltages I use...

Guys, what volts would I increase to keep stabilty with my FSB and and allow me to lower my vCore a touch? I used to be 3.825GHz stable with 1.48v but this board demands 1.53v, which I can only assume is due to the various other voltages it allows me to play with?

[Renegade5399]

I'm guessing the small fan at the bottom is blowing onto the mobo, but the large fan on the memory is pulling air off?? Or is it blowing onto it too?

The small fan is blowing across the back of my 8800GT. It gets hot man without airflow. It also blows down onto the fins of the NB heatsink. The large fan blows down onto the memory slots. In my armor i have 2x120mm in the front iCages blowing in, the 120mm and the 80mm blowing down onto the board, then an 80mm and a 92mm blowing out the back. Then to finish it off, my Rad is top mounted with 2 FM121's and that draws any warm air out the top of the case. Does this raise my water temp a bit? Yes. Does it really matter? No, it's only a 1-2°C difference. Is my PC loud when on? OMG yes! But i use headphones so it doesn't really matter.

[kup]

Rengade, just curious. What is the VID of your E6850 in CoreTemp? I've got one sitting here with a VID of 1.350v, which is literally as high as it can go before Intel would have rebinned it as a lower spec chip... Are all E6850 chips like this? My Quad 'g0' has a VID of only 1.2375v...

[Aldy402]

Anyone notice how Bios 0701 has been removed from the FTP?

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...ximus_Formula/

0802 is just a finalized version of 0701
0701 was a pretest beta release.

its basically the same bios with a few fixes
and im surprised your not getting the same temp issue as in 0701, I still have it with 0802
lucky guy..