Break-in. So the Penryns are to be treated like a new pair of shoes?Originally Posted by varrius
Break-in. So the Penryns are to be treated like a new pair of shoes?
Proof they have not disclose information? Without proof, it would be very difficult to show that for one time, crappy chipset are not due to nvidia
Qx9650 is working just fine with EVGA 680i SLI and BIOS P31, wich is out for some time now. The only problem is that with EIST deactivated you can't set multi, it will stay locked at 6X; new BIOS will probably fix this also.
I think nVidia got what they deserved.
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" I want to burn it in, let it break-in, then, by the time I do any serious overclocking, there will be a further BIOS update. CONSPIRACY OOOOO. Conspiracys DO NOT supercede Federal Law."
Notice how I said BURN in before that, then, to make somewhat of an attack, you CUT it off like a communist? Any overclocker knows how to "burn-in" a cpu, especially if it cost $1300.
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Lets see if Admin agrees with your posts.
Last edited by DilTech; 11-15-2007 at 01:32 PM. Reason: Removed the offending quote.
I'm not sure about the admins, but this moderator DEFINITELY doesn't agree with his post Praz.
People, there's NO need for that kind of an attitude towards anyone, especially towards someone who's help this very community/forum as hipro.
Gentleman:
Let's always try to remember that this is a public forum where we all are guests.
Let's try to behave as we would as a guest in some one else's home.
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Agreed, as long as they don't behave like Rick James as a guest in eddy/charlie murphy's home.
Keep your feet of the couch guys.
DilTech, your fast. Thanks for removing the quote from my post also.
No problem. I don't play these types of games with people. It's one thing to disagree, I disagree half the time with people, but there's no reason to outburst how he did.
Either way, lets get back on topic guys.
Just my thoughts:
I've been here 2 years. One of the great assets of this forum is Hipro.
He brings info to us in easy to understand plain english. Ok, so with a Greek accent!
My point is that he is a great teacher and I think many miss this.
He tells you what he sees whether it's good or bad.
He isn't just some guy that comes and says "Hey I broke all the world records" but will take the time to show you how it is done.
You just got to respect a guy like that and if you disagree with something he says, voice it as a polite question.
He is truly one of the people here that is worthy of respect from all of us
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Point is, his statements are being refuted in this very thread! The chip does work on the 680ichipset and I won't be surprised when OCing works!Just my thoughts:
I've been here 2 years. One of the great assets of this forum is Hipro.
He brings info to us in easy to understand plain english. Ok, so with a Greek accent!
My point is that he is a great teacher and I think many miss this.
He tells you what he sees whether it's good or bad.
He isn't just some guy that comes and says "Hey I broke all the world records" but will take the time to show you how it is done.
You just got to respect a guy like that and if you disagree with something he says, voice it as a polite question.
He is truly one of the people here that is worthy of respect from all of us
ok, then you come out with a little tact and do it like this:
Hey George? I have xxx chipset and I got xxx cpu to work in it and here's a SS of it. Maybe I have a different revision than you do?
There are many ways to do things.
Like dear old Dad once said to me after I told a teacher to FO:
"There's a million ways to say it and only one involves using the words."
Tact and courtesy go a long way in this world.
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Then the guy could've just merely stated that he got it to work in a nice manner. He didn't need to explode at hipro as he did.
Anyway, enough about it. Back to the topic guys.
I don't believe it's an issue if the combination will work here or there. But can all users reasonably expect the chipset/processor to function in a manner and at the performance levels we run these boards at. Even HP has stated there are certain configurations where this combination appears too have no stability issues.
Intel is probably pissed at nVidia. Who was that crazy CEO guy from nVidia who said they would pwn Intel on the GPU market but also on the CPU market within a few years
Still i dont believe this won't be a problem in the future. You're talking about an unfinished product, and when it gets released they can run 45nm stable. There will be always nutcases buying these boards.
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lol hiprostirring hahahaha
i got some photos which i can't post unfortunately but i don't think it's all doom and gloom....gotta go through them all tonight just to double check it all....there is certainly one chipset i remember running a gaming rig with the Yorks...just gotta look at the other photos heh
i've been slack i gotta slap my yorkfield after i flash to latest XFX 680i bios
they should all share the reference bioses
Agreed, but "It's time to FORGET working a Yorkfield on a i680/i780 chipset" is hardly a harmless statement. Tact indeed.ok, then you come out with a little tact and do it like this:
Hey George? I have xxx chipset and I got xxx cpu to work in it and here's a SS of it. Maybe I have a different revision than you do?
There are many ways to do things.
Like dear old Dad once said to me after I told a teacher to FO:
"There's a million ways to say it and only one involves using the words."
Tact and courtesy go a long way in this world.
Either way, it looks like support for the Yorkfield on 680i boards is already starting to surface. To tell the truth, I'll be happy with a Q6600 when prices drop, but I can't imagine nVidia letting Yorkfield go unaddresses or Intel stopping them from fixing the issue. To suggest otherwise is silly, IMO.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3138The situation with the NVIDIA designed chipsets for the Intel market is a little different. The 680i SLI, 680i LT SLI, GeForce 7150, and GeForce 7100 chipsets officially support Wolfdale and Yorkfield. The 650i SLI and GeForce 7050 chipsets will support these processors, but it seems as if that will be a supplier to supplier decision at this time. Of note, we have several 680i SLI motherboards that are currently undergoing qualification testing at this time, not for lack of chipset support, but for board designs. The reference board A1/T1 designs from EVGA will only require a BIOS update to work as an example, while motherboards from Gigabyte, ECS, abit, Biostar, and Foxconn are questionable at this point. We will have an update on these particular motherboards shortly; in the meantime, it appears the revised 680i boards from NVIDIA's launch partners along with boards from ASUS, MSI, and DFI should be fine with nothing more than a BIOS update.
Sorry XS, until I hear otherwise I gotta trust anand.
Okay...enough of this speculation. I'm sitting on my shiny new QX9650 right now. I'll be popping this bad boy under the waterblock on my evga 680i in an hour. I'm running a full tilt rig with SLI and all the amenities. We'll see where we go....
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But my friend it is a totally honest statement if that is what you had seen in testing.
If later a different bios or revision makes it possible that then becomes added info.
It doesn't change the tone one uses to someone who works hard to bring us the info in the first place.
That should hold for George or anyone else.
Good manners are always in style to anyone.
The old line of: "It's not what you say but how you say it holds true here."
For example, had I found info contrary to what George had posted I would have PM'd him this info out of respect.
Let him then examine it and make his own conclusions.
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hes had 45nm processors way before everyone and is an Electrical engineer so i would guess he knows allot more about this issue than most and i doubt he would say that without having some basis to back it up. Also you have to take into account English is not his first language so he may not mean to make a statement heated.
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