Striker pwns EVGA with Q6600 G0

[pss75]

Apparently the fsb holes are caused by the GTL voltage???!!! the link below has a fix, bit tricky though! Has anyone managed to run 400fsb on a new striker??
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/A1_R...ld/4756-2.html

[Akuma2000]

I currently have a MSI P6N Platinum with a 650i chipset.
With this board, there are also FSB holes

Luckily I found the "sweetspot" @ FSB 1400, making my Q6600 B3 run at 3.15Ghz
Read my findings here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...VIEWTMP=Linear


ANYWAY, I bought a Asus Striker Extreme!
I will receive this board next week.
It will replace my P6N (going into another PC).

I hope I will get a higher overclock of my Q6600 B3 with the Striker Extreme (hoping to run @ 3.6Ghz).

I'm going to use Liquid Cooling.

My Question is:

Does the Striker Extreme NB, SB and Mosfets really needs liquid cooling? Or is the stock cooling enough?

Thnq guys in advance.

[Leeghoofd]

NB requires at least active cooling if possible, if you go liquid cool only the NB and SB, I can recommend the EK waterblocks they are fab and work very very well, if you want to do it mad you can go to cool the mosfets too but that would require an extra loop if you include CPU and GPU too in it...

With the Striker 412 , 417, 425 are known to work the first two with 9 multi, the latter I only tried with 8 multi ( giving 3.4ghz ) some have reached 450FSB but my board never got there...( needed more CPU VTT to get stable then the 1.55 the board gave)

A user on a German ( hardwareluxx.de) forumsite got 412( x9 ) with all voltages on auto (bios 1303 plz do not use 1305) just CPU and ram set manually... if you overclock the quad keep the ram in sync, meaning if you go 425 FSB set ram at 850, so not try to force eg 1066 as it will make the OC unstable...

I mainly used Linflas magical settings which worked pretty well (I just set 1.2HT slightly lower and SB at 1.55 as I don't use SLI ) and the board runs stable at 3.4ghz with my GO Q6600... at the moment it's in the box as I repleaced it by the Maximus formula for testing....

Here's my board fixed with the EK set :

[Akuma2000]

@ Leeghoofd.
Thnx for the info!

Anyway:
I thought it would be better to start my own topic, to prevent off-topic posts.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...90#post2537390

[crash5s]

hehe looks like my striker board before it died, I went with the clear top EK option though.

Waiting on a new CPU block before I take another nforce plunge

[mouawad]

i was all pumped for the Striker at the start of the thread, after all the problems thinking maybe this board could turn out the best.

now @ the back end of the thread it looks plagued by the same problems from the beginning and still dying left right and centre.

[Akuma2000]

Well, I had the same issue too, wondering about that.

But I still "believe" in the Striker

I work at a computershop and they've selled a LOT of Strikers.
And very little came back for RMA.

The people here reporting that their Striker died, are just a small amount of the total Striker users who's Striker are just working fine.

[crash5s]

Well, I had the same issue too, wondering about that.

But I still "believe" in the Striker

I work at a computershop and they've selled a LOT of Strikers.
And very little came back for RMA.

The people here reporting that their Striker died, are just a small amount of the total Striker users who's Striker are just working fine.

I'd imagine most return them directly to ASUS, which is a mixed bag since their tech support sucks and RMA can be hit or miss.

Due to the fact that I dropped 160 USD into water blocks for this board I'd debate getting another one, and cross my fingers that it's the newer version.

Searching for RAM that isn't going to make the CPU INIT issue worse while I'm at it.

[Akuma2000]

I'm searching for RAM too!

I think I'm going for the Crucial Ballistix, but I'm not out yet which I should choose:

2 x Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 1024MB CL4 BL12864AA804
or
2 x Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC8500 1024MB CL5 BL12864AA1065

Which of the 2 will give me better performance / overclock?
Because the 1st is 800Mhz, but 4-4-4-12
The second is 1000Mhz, but 5-5-5-15

Anyone any idea which one is better?

[ShoNuff]

I'm searching for RAM too!

I think I'm going for the Crucial Ballistix, but I'm not out yet which I should choose:

2 x Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC6400 1024MB CL4 BL12864AA804
or
2 x Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC8500 1024MB CL5 BL12864AA1065

Which of the 2 will give me better performance / overclock?
Because the 1st is 800Mhz, but 4-4-4-12
The second is 1000Mhz, but 5-5-5-15

Anyone any idea which one is better?

i4Memory is a great place to look for additional information regarding the Ballistix memory. Eva has a LOT of info regarding Crucial memory on his site. As a backup pair I have the Ballistix Tracers PC8500 and I like em'.

[Leeghoofd]

The PC8500 versions do 800mhz too at 4-4-4-12 mate , but some PC6400 can do 1066Mhz at 5-5-5-15 (I know many OC their ram but many fail also over time...) I would go with the PC8500 version as it gives you slightly more room to run the FSB in sync with the ram without doing really any OC ( so not taking any risk) on the ram...
I can confirm that timings have almost no effect on real world performance, I selled out some serious cash for the Gskill PC8000 with 4-4-4-5 timings, benchmarks and co run barely faster than the previous much cheaper OCZ 5-5-5-15 kit...

[jmmtn4aj]

The PC8500 versions do 800mhz too at 4-4-4-12 mate , but some PC6400 can do 1066Mhz at 5-5-5-15 (I know many OC their ram but many fail also over time...) I would go with the PC8500 version as it gives you slightly more room to run the FSB in sync with the ram without doing really any OC ( so not taking any risk) on the ram...
I can confirm that timings have almost no effect on real world performance, I selled out some serious cash for the Gskill PC8000 with 4-4-4-5 timings, benchmarks and co run barely faster than the previous much cheaper OCZ 5-5-5-15 kit...

I'm running mine at 1000 5-5-5-15. I thought 1066 5-5-5-15 was a given since the modules EPP profiles are basically 800 @ CL4 and 1000 @ CL5. Basically both modules should be the same, except flashed at different speeds, right?

[Leeghoofd]

That might be true for the Ballistix but I know many PC6400 dimms that don't do 1000 or 1066Mhz not even with cl 6 timings...and voltages over 2.3 volts. I think the 1066mhz modules are slightly better binned ones...

But low latency timings are pretty useless on Intel CPU's, ofcourse every mhz/latency helps but sometimes not worth the cash...

I stick that he best gets the PC8500 dimms if he wants to make sure they will run at 1066mhz 24/7...

[eva2000]

Or you can run striker with crazy vdimm volts for 600mhz 5-3-3-5

[Leeghoofd]

Don't get these kids all wound up sir George you are a nauty man !!! Here comes a new thread soon with topic "HELP my Striker ate my ram !!!"

Those the titanium alphas mate ?

I hope you get some good runs with ya quad !!!

[eva2000]

Yeah OCZ Titanium Alpha VX2.. average 4-4-4-x on 975/965/P35 at 565-586mhz 4-4-4-x CAS5 no help but on 680i striker excels!

[DeLeO]

Hi guys,
I juste want to give you my Striker extrem feedbacks :
Q6600 b3
Gei PC2 8500 @ 1100 mhz 5-5-5-15-1t 2.4V
Striker extrem version 1.00g bios 1303
650 W PSU

I know striker encoured issue with quad ( fsb hole, sound probleme..) so i get resigned with it but now when i see all your screen i wonder why does my striker didn't even boot @ 1500 fsb with those settings :

AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1600
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1450
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1200
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 1000

Vcore Voltage: auto
Memory Voltage: 2.40v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.42v
NB Core Voltage: 1.65v
SB Core Voltage: 1.55v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.45v
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO

tCL (CAS Latency): 5
tRCD: 5
tRP: 5
tRAS: 15
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)

Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: auto
tRC: auto
tWR: auto
tWTR: auto
tREF: AUTO
tRD: auto
tRFC: auto
Async Latency: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Internal Thermal Control: Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E): Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech: Disabled
LDT Frequency: 5x

PCIEX16_1 Frequency (Mhz): 101
PCIEX16_2 Frequency (Mhz): 101
PCIEX16_3 Frequency (Mhz): 101
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, Mhz: 201

wahtever i try doesn't boot any idear ?

[Leeghoofd]

kinda troubled so you set 1600 FS Bin bios though the board boots at 1425 ? Same weird thing for the ram ...

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1700
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 425
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850 ( keep in sync with FSB plz )
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850

Vcore Voltage: 1.45 or higher to try , depends on CPU
Memory Voltage: 2.40v Very very high , board overvolts you will kill ya ram !! Try 2.2 or max 2.3 with active cooling plz !!
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.65
NB Core Voltage: 1.50v
SB Core Voltage: 1.55v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.45v

Try this with CPU Multi 8 plz for 3.4 ghz

[DeLeO]

hi again ,

I've tried those settings and it simply doesn't want to post . " DET IDE" wrtting on the back lcd :/ Don't know what happens on my striker ...

[linflas]

hi again ,

I've tried those settings and it simply doesn't want to post . " DET IDE" wrtting on the back lcd :/ Don't know what happens on my striker ...

that is a FSB hole, try 1712 or 1720 try and get out of the hole

[DeLeO]

You mean just put higher FSB and don't touch Volts ?
Do you ussually have those holes on Striker?

THX for ya help

[linflas]

You may have to adjust your cpu voltage as this is a higher clock, or you can just test for FSB holes with x6 multi at lower volts, when you find one that boots OK, then go ahead and change your multi and your vcore and see what you can get stable.

I posted a number of bios settings in this thread that are stable.

[DeLeO]

I've tried 1712 and 1720 and still DET IDE i'm gonna become crazy with tihs boards ...
This max i can get is 1400*9 and whatever multi, still 1400

[DeLeO]

Are you sure that i'll can " go out" this FSB hole ? That's not sure ?

[linflas]

are you using the 1301 bios? Do not use 1305 it does not work with quad core, use 1301