Quote Originally Posted by Donnie27 View Post
Honest question and not jeering. Will Kuma or Phenom X2 really be Native Dual Core or Phenom X4 with two dead cores? Seems to me that pressing out two and four core packages are counter productive given the failure rates of even good yields. We know both AMD and that other company has a propensity to lie and try to turn failure into triumph Look at what AMD said about Tri-Core or X3? The truth would have easily been accepted.

I hope I'm wrong but AMD will have to show me this improved Process. After the last two years their word (and many others BTW) is worthless IMHO. I hope like hell they get it right. Without Competition we'll sooner or later go back to the Days of X2 across the board high @$$ed prices. Simple Supply and Demand dictates that.
it'll be the same as with K8 Dual core and single (E6 venice cores were manchesters with 1 core disabled and E3 native single cores )

no chance amd gets enough "faulty" cores to supply a whole DC product line.

getting more and more interesting, and one side note:

65nm has surpassed 90nm with the ne G2 revision brisbane chips (used in be and 5000 black edition)