Do NOT upgrade to X38 chipset from P35!

[OnLine]

Seems To Work For Me !!!

So what does it say, does it say I should upgrade my aging P965 Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 mobo or get a better clocking CPU?



Seems to work for me too, P965 isn't that slow!

Edit: this is 100% orthos stable. Edit: there -> http://i24.tinypic.com/jpzddd.jpg

[ChaosMinionX]

Never seen RAM speeds measured in TRIAL VERSION Whats that translate to like 20k MB/s

[mjb1206]

Now show me where I will see the difference with the naked eye? Or while using common computer programs?

Don’t be ridiculous with your silly synthetic benchmarks, and non-hands on performance enhancements. I want to see the difference not read some minuscule number difference.

SHOW IT TO ME SO I CAN SEE IT HANDS ON!!!

Please be realistic.............

[ChaosMinionX]

Now show me where I will see the difference with the naked eye? Or while using common computer programs?

Don’t be ridiculous with your silly synthetic benchmarks, and non-hands on performance enhancements. I want to see the difference not read some minuscule number difference.

SHOW IT TO ME SO I CAN SEE IT HANDS ON!!!

Please be realistic.............

Well the real answer is... you probably will not see any difference at all. But being that this is largely a Benching/Overclocking community we will take anything that goes faster synthetically even if we cannot tell the difference in system performance from 8500MB/s read to 9k MB/s read on RAM, or even latencies

We wouldnt be very extreme if we didnt want to go that extra 100mhz on CPUs or RAM or take those tenths of a second, or hell even a full second off calculations of Pi

[mjb1206]

Online, exactly........... Buy what you want, keep what you want, overclock what you want, upgrade what you want ect..............."It Is What It Is"

[ChaosMinionX]

Online, exactly........... Buy what you want, keep what you want, overclock what you want, upgrade what you want ect..............."It Is What It Is"

Come again? Saying everyone should just do what they want right?

[mjb1206]

Chaos.........Thanks for answering the questions honestly!! Have fun messing with your synthetic benchmarks.......... Get it running the fastest you can, then when you are done, give someone like me, who is to lazy to mess with it the settings, and then I'll brag about how fast my computer is!

Enjoy your evening...............

[OnLine]

Never seen RAM speeds measured in TRIAL VERSION Whats that translate to like 20k MB/s

Sorry I don't understand this question?

@mjb1206; Indeed, but do You think it's worth it - for me - doing a P965 -> X38 upgrade. My current mobo is boring. and I want to get a new CPU @ a Q6600.

[mjb1206]

Online, heck go for it! You got to keep up with the Jones........ I think if you get a P-35 or a X-38 board you will enjoy messing with it! They both work awesome...........

[ChaosMinionX]

Sorry I don't understand this question?

@mjb1206; Indeed, but do You think it's worth it - for me - doing a P965 -> X38 upgrade. My current mobo is boring. and I want to get a new CPU @ a Q6600.

I was poking fun at the TRIAL VERSION stamped across a few of your readings since your using trial Everest

P965 -> X38 is a definate upgrade in terms of performance, but again visibly in real life application there really isnt a need for it

[Ace-a-Rue]

i say forget keeping up with guys here..do what gets you excited with your hardware....for me, i like trying new things even if i break even on performance from the previous board to a newer board.

[OnLine]

Who's the Jones?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeping...th_the_Joneses

Aha!

Well You see, I can't afford both a X38 mobo and a Q6600 right now so I got to make decision. A new CPU or a new mobo?
Do I need this stuff? Nope! Do I want it? Yup!

ChaosMinionX; okey, poking fun is allowed!

I can never keep up with You guys here, I know that & I won't try. Too much pain.

[ChaosMinionX]

Your wallet hurts more than your head ever will with stress testing, benching

I am with Ace on this one, I do it just because I love new stuff even if it isnt that much of an upgrade, I like to actively be able to give information toward new topics and give perspective when possible on discussions about new stuff

[OnLine]

I'm also a member of the Orthos 1000h club.

Bought a lot of PC hardware over the years that I really didn't needed, but the last year I've cooled down and no longer do I want to do stupid/unworthy upgrades.
I know this is a hobby for You and many other Xtreme Sys Forums members and it's fun reading about new hardware. My hobby is reading.

I guess a Q6600 will load the reviews twice as fast as a C2D E6600 will.
Ha Ha I'm trying hard to justify this upgrade.

Anyway I think I'll get first a Q6600 then a better mobo ( if needed ). That order.

[ChaosMinionX]

I'm also a member of the Orthos 1000h club.

Bought a lot of PC hardware over the years that I really didn't needed, but the last year I've cooled down and no longer do I want to do stupid/unworthy upgrades.
I know this is a hobby for You and many other Xtreme Sys Forums members and it's fun reading about new hardware. My hobby is reading.

I guess a Q6600 will load the reviews twice as fast as a C2D E6600 will.
Ha Ha I'm trying hard to justify this upgrade.

Anyway I think I'll get first a Q6600 then a better mobo ( if needed ). That order.

Dont get a Q6600 now, wait till January and get a Q9450 (penryn) will be around 300-350$ cant go wrong with that

[OnLine]

Dont get a Q6600 now, wait till January and get a Q9450 (penryn) will be around 300-350$ cant go wrong with that

You're right Q9450 it is. My E6600 @ 3.5GHz will hold me over. Definitely.
Then I need to get a new mobo too, but I've got some time to save up. Will keep my 2GB DDRII mem.

[NapalmV5]

lol ive been for about a year for the x38 since all the mobos have been disappointing for the quads

wow @ 3xx$ q9450, 3 months worth waiting for instead of the qx9450 @ 1000+$

[flopper]

Xtreme here means this,
1. you buy a new waterblock to show .5 difference, rad that show .5 difference even when you got state of the art.
2. you buy a new chipset x38 since if you dont people will laugh at you calling yourself xtreme
3. Its on the edge, the living edge and old stuff (1 month) is so out of date here.
4. the six pack joe and myself are going for p35 and ddr2 until x38 have matured and prices goes down since the performance is not worth to pay for, its not big enough step to justify the change.

I have had a p965 chipset for a year now, changing to p35 abit ip35-e to test it, will get a new cpu later, a dualcore e6750 and next year when prices goes down, yorkfield comes out I get a x38 board that do well with those cpu´s

I am xtreme but not with living on the edge in hardware

people here also tend to forget, really a lot of ppl reading stuff here who even dont overclock...

said that, I enjoy seeing pushing the edge in hardware, its silly since its just stuff people can do.
Humanity have always strived to find out whats behind the unknown so I guess this forum is like that for some, finding it out about the unknown, how far can we go....

When I get carried away I just cast my mind to people dying in iraq or other places and find out that even if my overclock isnt that xtreme its good enough for me

I be enjoying testing my abit board when it arrives tomorrow.

[Criswell]

Do NOT upgrade to X38 chipset from P35!

Intel disagrees.

[Brother Esau]

Xtreme here means this,
1. you buy a new waterblock to show .5 difference, rad that show .5 difference even when you got state of the art.
2. you buy a new chipset x38 since if you dont people will laugh at you calling yourself xtreme
3. Its on the edge, the living edge and old stuff (1 month) is so out of date here.
4. the six pack joe and myself are going for p35 and ddr2 until x38 have matured and prices goes down since the performance is not worth to pay for, its not big enough step to justify the change.

I have had a p965 chipset for a year now, changing to p35 abit ip35-e to test it, will get a new cpu later, a dualcore e6750 and next year when prices goes down, yorkfield comes out I get a x38 board that do well with those cpu´s

I am xtreme but not with living on the edge in hardware

people here also tend to forget, really a lot of ppl reading stuff here who even dont overclock...

said that, I enjoy seeing pushing the edge in hardware, its silly since its just stuff people can do.
Humanity have always strived to find out whats behind the unknown so I guess this forum is like that for some, finding it out about the unknown, how far can we go....

When I get carried away I just cast my mind to people dying in iraq or other places and find out that even if my overclock isnt that xtreme its good enough for me

I be enjoying testing my abit board when it arrives tomorrow.

Well Said

[Brother Esau]

lol ive been for about a year for the x38 since all the mobos have been disappointing for the quads

wow @ 3xx$ q9450, 3 months worth waiting for instead of the qx9450 @ 1000+$

Fact of the matter is this, Motherboard and quad core overclocking is a very immature concept and it will be about another year before you can get something that can handle it for long term without blowing the board up.

Now if all you want to do is blow sh*t up then theres plenty of options currently available because overall it just puts too much strain on the NB /Memory controller and the rest of the voltages across the board to compensate.

My 2cents don't kick me in the nuts!

[Leeghoofd]

If my P5W did 400 FSB with my q6600 I wouldn't even had considered going680i, P35 got me the same and better clocks with less heat and far easier setup ( so to my liking seems more reliable ) and now I move onto X38 just to replace the Striker... do I see much benefit of all that cash I put into it , not really but it's nice to fiddle around with hardware and most of my friends run my older boards... and they get them at a good price

But all in all for the normal PC user that doesn't do overclocking there's isn't much benefit going from one mobo to another... but for the freaks each point is a big step forward... but it' s nice to see what happens when peeps push their boards, this forum is such a rich informative environment to get input on any matter... overclocker or not...

I just think we can repeat this thread on several types of mobo's/chipsets that were or are being released...

[h@RRy]

Well Said

+1 and seconded

[xgman]

I'm usually the first one one board witn these new chipsets, but this one doesn't lure me away from my p5k dlx. If I needed a new board right now I'd get teh p5E dlx, but since I don't I alos will look at X48 when it comes out. Now yorkfield is another issue!

[ChaosMinionX]

You're right Q9450 it is. My E6600 @ 3.5GHz will hold me over. Definitely.
Then I need to get a new mobo too, but I've got some time to save up. Will keep my 2GB DDRII mem.

What board are you using now? From what I have seen alot of BIOS's have added support for 45nm even as old as P5B Deluxe.